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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. Because they're not official and they're not articles of impeachment.
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 09:26 PM
Dec 2019

The headline is a little misleading. The tweet itemizes five items that the author of the tweet feels are impeachable offenses, so a better title would probably be "There are five proven impeachable offenses" and not "five proven articles of impeachment".

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
3. Because of the nature of the 2 articles:
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 10:55 PM
Dec 2019

Abuse of Power in intentionally vague.
Obstruction of Congress is intentionally specific.

Now that these are recorded by the House as Impeachable Offences, they're NON PARDONABLE.

Which means, that even if the Senate chooses to leave him in office, he can still be prosecuted for them once his term is up.

At least, this is my understanding. IANAL.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
4. Impeachment does not limit the presidential pardon power as applied to criminal proceedings
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:33 AM
Dec 2019

What the Constitution prohibits is the use of the pardon power to prevent the subject of an impeachment proceeding from suffering the consequences of an impeachment conviction-- namely removal from office and, potentially, disqualification from holding any other office. But just as the Constitution provides that someone who is impeached can be subjected to separate criminal proceedings based on the same conduct as the impeachment proceeding, the pardon power can be applied to foreclose such criminal charges.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
5. There isn't even one "proven" article of impeachment at this point
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 02:34 AM
Dec 2019

At least not in the sense that a trial has taken place and a verdict of guilty reached.

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