In Alex Jones' Sandy Hook deposition, a persona undone

[Gothmog]

Mark Bankston (Juanita Jean's son) had fun in this depo https://www.statesman.com/news/20191214/in-alex-jonesrsquo-sandy-hook-deposition-persona-undone?fbclid=IwAR0tHC9LXbZP1XjRvdVwAFIAUygH7zfDlOI-I8eZ25o2M5zXV7up2TSExXk

As Houston attorney Mark Bankston, representing Sandy Hook parents in four suits in Austin against Jones and his InfoWars operation, on Nov. 26 methodically asked Jones to explain how he came to report that tragedy as a hoax supposedly orchestrated as a pretext to crack down on gun rights, a subdued Jones seemed mostly befuddled.

Forty-four times he answered, “I don’t remember;” 51 times, “I don’t know.”
Pulling back the curtain on Jones’ news operation, it appeared there was no there there, just a slipshod hodgepodge of rumor, malign supposition, twisted words and recycled misinformation from notably unreliable sources, all hyped by Jones into the truth they don’t want you to know.

Absent his gravelly and ferocious on-air growls, the various “anomalies” that Jones said made him suspicious of events at Sandy Hook, as recounted one by one by Bankston in the quietude of the deposition room, sounded ridiculous.
Jones’ deposition, and those of three InfoWars associates, became public Thursday when they were filed in a Travis County court by

Bankston in the case of Neil Heslin, the father of slain 6-year-old Jesse Lewis.
Bankston also filed a 49-page motion asking state District Judge Scott Jenkins, who is presiding over four Sandy Hook suits, to order a default judgment holding Jones and InfoWars liable without even requiring a jury trial, except to determine the size of the damages, as a consequence of what he contends is their flagrant refusal or inability to seriously answer questions.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Fry Jones. Grill his ass. Take every fucking red cent from him...

[Leghorn21]

3. Fry, burn, grill, cook, sear, broil, scorch, then flush 15 times

fuckin A right

[Joinfortmill]

16. 👍

[erronis]

33. Send his horse's head to the horse's ass in the WH.

Show the wannabe Mussolini idiot what his fate will be.

[SWBTATTReg]

2. Responsible journalism needs to florish, while irresponsible journalism like this of alex j, is ...

reckless and dangerous to those in its path. All to juice up ratings. Bad journalists and / or radio personalities need to be responsible in their reporting, knowing full well that some in their audiences will take their words uttered over the airwaves as gospel and truth. Send alex jones a message...get him for every single dime and freeze all of his assets, otherwise, he's going to hide the money and refuse to pay any settlement.

[Leith]

4. Jones should have jail time

He told lies that set off a whole bunch of mentally disturbed idiots to harass the parents of the murdered children. There is no excuse in this world for doing that.

[LuvNewcastle]

10. A guy I know, a regular Alex Jones listener,

told me once that the First Amendment (he said "the Constitution&quot means that anyone can say anything he wants, whether it's true or not. People like that think they're patriots. We need a way to help people understand that there are ways to love your country besides carrying a gun and believing whatever conspiracy theory is currently being told. There's always been a contingent of people in America who enjoy discussing bullshit topics, but it's gotten dangerous these days. And we all know who's their favorite President.

[Bob_in_VA]

13. 1st Amendment

Your friend is quite correct as far as his statement that the Constitution allows anyone to say anything they want - except falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater. What the 1st Amendment doesn't do is allow anyone to utter a lie without any consequences. That's the part your friend needs to have explained to him, probably in words of one syllable if at all possible.

[weissmam]

19. you have the right to say what you wany

however you also have the right to suffer the consequences

[eppur_se_muova]

26. Exactly. You can not be **pre-emptively** censored, but you are responsible for what you say. nt

[leftieNanner]

42. The big caveat that they choose to forget

(or never knew to begin with) is that it's the GOVERNMENT that cannot stifle your free speech. Private citizens can take you to court. And privately held companies can fire your butt. All legal.

[SCantiGOP]

5. He's already admitted in a previous trial

That’s he’s just bullshitting.
His argument that he hadn’t committed slander centered on “I am an entertainer, not a journalist, so people shouldn’t believe this shit.”

[CanonRay]

6. A scam, a fraud, a con

Just like all the rest of the GOP

[Hekate]

18. CanonRay, do you realize you are *one post away* from the big 10,000? Congrats!

Happy new year, too.

[ck4829]

48. Yep

[uponit7771]

7. What a punk ass, when faced to put up he punks out and acts like a cowards. ALL OF THEM art punks

[maxsolomon]

35. He isn't dumb enough to double down on his horseshit under oath.

Even Trump knows staying OUT of a deposition is the smartest thing a professional liar can do.

[Grins]

8. This is 12-days old. Why again...?

[Mr.Bill]

9. Why not?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. some things grow finer with time

[ck4829]

49. Indeed

[Gothmog]

14. Mark's parents were in a serious accident and Susan has just started posting again

Mark’s parents were in a serious accident and were in the hospital until last week. Susan has just started posing on Juanita Jean and Face book.

[lunatica]

24. Well if you already knew about it why bother to respond?

Since when is something that’s 12 days old not allowed in General Discussion? Latest Breaking News is another forum.

[ck4829]

50. Remembering is resisting

[MartyTheGreek]

12. Jones had to delete his 9-11 and Prison Planet Conspiracies to make the Drudge Report

I used to follow Jones when he was into the conspiracy stuff relative to Prison Planet because I have an interest in UFOs. His philosophy then was that we are imprisoned on this planet by superior ETs, they controlled us and our souls could not escape the planet grid that the ETs set up. No shit! Go back about 15 years, you'll see.

This is a sick MF, I would love to take him in the ring and beat his ass! Oh, don't forget the antisemitism things he posted or hosted in the past even while he was married to a Jewish woman.

POS!

[Upthevibe]

15. HE'S A HORRIBLE P.O.S.!!! n/t

[Botany]

17. Didn't Trump call and thank him after the election?

The man is beneath contempt.

[marble falls]

20. Heres the deposition on video ...

[thucythucy]

27. I watched enough of this to know

that he admits he was bullshitting the whole time he was on the air spouting his obscene line of crap. And now he rather pathetically claims he doesn't remember his "sources", "that was a long time ago..." Just as an example, he claimed Sandy Hook was, "according to the records" closed on the day of the massacre, but now "can't remember" or "doesn't know" to what "records" he was referring. He admits he claimed "students" were marched around "in circles" and showed a video showing this, except the video doesn't show children and isn't of the Sandy Hook school. He admitted this once, but now "can't remember" details about the video and why it was aired on his show.

And then he looks at his watch, yawns from time to time, like this is all such a waste of his valuable time.

I hope the court fines him for every bloody cent he's got and every cent he'll ever earn. Money can't make up for all the harm he's done, but it's apparently the only thing people of his ilk value and understand.

He sure as hell doesn't understand concepts like truth, morality, or even simple empathy for people who have suffered such devastating loss. He looks at slaughtered children and all he sees are dollar signs.

Pathetic isn't the word for it.

[marble falls]

28. He's flailing to try to get from under this, he brought it on himself.

[Mr.Bill]

39. I was the editor of my high school newspaper.

While I didn't pursue journalism as a career I worked part time writing for a local newspaper before I had a driver's license. This was in the late 60s. I wrote many controversial articles and editorials over 50 years ago and I can still name my sources. Some of them were confidential and I have not revealed their identity to this day.

[Liberal In Texas]

44. I worked in broadcast news for over 30 years.

I also worked on a local newspaper in high school. I'm not sure what your point is, but Jones is not a journalist. He's a huckster and a conspiracy theorist.
He does not have "immunity' in disclosing confidential sources.

[Mr.Bill]

46. My point was

you don't forget your sources. And you adhere to journalistic principles. It saddens me that many today don't.

[marble falls]

54. I got his point, he documented his sources well enough to be able to recall ...

his sources decades later. Alex Jones is a journalist - a terrible one but one with a significant audience, who can't recall his recent sources even when he's being held responsible for them in a court of law with repercussions that could end his "career", has ended his marriage and might well break him financially.

[Liberal In Texas]

43. My god..this guy is such a liar.

These days my retirement job is recording depos just like this for a living. I know after awhile when we start a depo whether a deponent is honest. This guy is full of crap.

What a sleeze.

[Cousin Dupree]

55. Thanks for posting this.How can he keep a straight face while spouting all this bullshit?

[marble falls]

56. Lots of practice. Botox?

[LessAspin]

21. This American Life

Alex in Wonderland

Link to tweet

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[Liberal In Texas]

45. I did not know of this.

I'll have to check out TAL when I get a bit of time.

Thanks.

[cp]

22. No matter how long he lives he can never atone

Every second he lives is longer than any one of the Sandy Hook children

[dalton99a]

23. Kick

[Maraya1969]

25. I just clicked on his podcast for today and this is their advertiser

http://gcnlife.com/

A bunch of vitamins and shit.

And the first person is talking about some bill and free speech and how they want to be able to be openly anti-Semitic. Sure be openly anti-Semitic you slugs! You have that right.

[j2r7]

29. thank you for posting this !

I was like "finally some truth telling" to be clear he is an a-hole.

Then I was like "no, he (they) are insane, which is fun to watch for a while. but he needs some undefined "I am not a doctor" support at this time.

But the question guy is genius . Best ever. That is a super power.

So in short , you shared this , it was just what I wanted and I would have missed it otherwise.

Last odd observation. There is a method acting part of his testimony that is so marlon brando it is like a hall of mirrors.

Cheers!

[Mc Mike]

52. Welcome to the site, j2. Nice to read you. Nt (no text).

[orleans]

30. wow --

i just watched this whole video

thank you for posting this.

[Martin Eden]

31. When I see INFOWARS bumper stickers on cars

I always take a peek at the driver, to see what a brainwashed idiot looks like

[Mc Mike]

32. Scummy ranting mutant bircher.

Funny how on his show he pretends to have categoric knowledge and memory of all these past historic events, remembers every nuanced little particular that 'proves' the official story is 'a cover up'. Then when he's off his show, deposed under oath, he can't remember anything and knows nothing about everything.

Weasel. Nazi.

[Grokenstein]

36. "I'm just talking about my feelings! I'm allowed to do that!"

"What about the feelings of others, such as the parent of a murdered child?"
"That's not me, so it's not relevant!"

On Air: "I am the speaker of truth! I am the only one who knows what's going on!!"
Under Oath: "I jus' blurt out stuff, yer honor--it don' mean nothin'."

[Mc Mike]

53. He's also with the 'facts don't care about your feelings' crowd of reichwingers.

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I noticed his little fake attempt to pretend he doesn't push his show as 'real news', that he actually is engaged in 'opinion', 'punditry', 'commentary', and he just addresses other ' news sources' ' shocking revelations about current events.

Try to get any info about exactly what 'news sources' he's relying on, and he suddenly isn't a pundit, he's a journalist who is protecting his source.

One of the few 'sources' he was willing to cop to relying on was zerohedge, and the deposition taker pointed out that the zerohedge article was actually just covering what Jones was saying about Sandy Hook. Zerohedge used Jones as a source, then Jones tried to use zerohedge as a source, as 'proof' he's just a pundit style observer or commentator.

I also liked how the depo taker tried to ask Jones if there was a difference between 'that woman is pretty' and 'portapotties were delivered in the first hour', or if they were both just 'opinions', or 'statements of fact'. (about 97 minutes in, ~ 11:08).

Notice how sometimes Roger Stone worked for Jones, sometimes Jones worked for Alex Jones. Sometimes Jones worked for tRump, sometimes tRump works for Jones. Sometimes Rudy works for Lev, sometimes Lev works for Rudy. Sometimes Rudy works for Rump, for free. Like Manafort did. Sometimes Rudy is working for himself, not Rump.

[Bluesaph]

34. WTAF!

He says the establishment is going down. And he threw in some anti Clinton clap trap at the end. The interviewer actually laughs! Brilliant lawyer.

[BigDemVoter]

37. This is how the entire GOP operates. . . . ". . . rumor, malign supposition, twisted words,

and recycled information. . ." Yeah-- what this means is they fucking LIE.

[TNNurse]

38. If any of you follow the page JuanitaJean.com

Mark Bankston is her son. She is proud.

[Gothmog]

51. Yes Susan is very proud of Mark

[Mc Mike]

40. Forty-four times he answered, "I don't remember;" 51 times, "I don't know."

I have to thank Mr. Bankston for the observation he made at 1 hour 40 min, ~ 11:11 am in the depo.

"You don't use a teleprompter on your show. In all these videos, you just rattle 'em off, you say 'portapotties, Bloomberg e-mail, greenscreen, helicopters, in the woods, school was closed, videos show it was falling rotting apart, swat team', you just rattle 'em off without a teleprompter. ... And you were able to do that without a teleprompter, but today, sitting in deposition, ever since you got sued, all the sudden you can't remember anything, right?"

[cab67]

41. He strikes me as being like a one-man professional wrestling league.

I never get the sense that he actually believes half the shit he's saying.

[ck4829]

47. K&R