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kentuck

(111,053 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:28 AM Dec 2019

Trump is attempting to brand "Crazy" Nancy the same way he did with "Crooked" Hillary.

But he had a much longer time frame to work with in regards to Hillary. It takes time for a "brand" to take hold. It is not likely to work with Nancy Pelosi.

He's a sleazy name-caller and that has appealed to his base. If Nancy Pelosi is "crazy", it is crazy like a fox. She has his number and his game isn't working with her.

He has become too predictable. He has no new plays in his game. All he can do is simmer in the knowledge that he is a loser. He has been impeached. By a woman.

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Trump is attempting to brand "Crazy" Nancy the same way he did with "Crooked" Hillary. (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2019 OP
It's not going to work. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #1
+100000 Pachamama Dec 2019 #3
Cowardly Donnie TrumPutin is terrified of the truth about him. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2019 #2
So sick of his shit C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #4
Funny how he has no nickname for Putin other than "President Putin" ck4829 Dec 2019 #5
Maybe Daddy? robbob Dec 2019 #24
Rs think sticking a label is all that is necessary treestar Dec 2019 #6
I call him "Traitor Trump". Grins Dec 2019 #34
His dumbass nicknames aren't even clever. BlueStater Dec 2019 #7
They aren't supposed to be clever. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #8
That's because this simpleton genius, you know Mr. IQ156, only has a lexicon of 500 words. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #10
Like a pubescent teen, he's trying to get her attention being a dick. Her best response--ignore him. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #9
She has him by his tiny balls and is not running against him randr Dec 2019 #11
Like you say, I think this branding would be much much harder karynnj Dec 2019 #12
Don't like Nancy? Pantagruel Dec 2019 #13
I love Nancy. kentuck Dec 2019 #19
Nothing he repeats pisses me off more than "Witch Hunt!" Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #14
He's attempting to deceive people at every turn... kentuck Dec 2019 #15
Yes, but has ANYBODY told him how stupid he sounds? Sugar Smack Dec 2019 #17
It's projection, area51 Dec 2019 #16
I get really annoyed when I hear people repeat his bullshit - from his rudimentary nicnames to his UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #18
I think most adults are sick of Trump's second-grade level name calling. - n/t Jim__ Dec 2019 #20
It's annoying when we label these scumbags "Deplorable or Cult45" they take it as a badge of honor dustyscamp Dec 2019 #21
How about "trumplicker" or "no pants" LuvLoogie Dec 2019 #22
still not harsh enough dustyscamp Dec 2019 #23
The best labels are the uncomfortable truths for the GOP supporters Dukkha Dec 2019 #30
I like that idea RainCaster Dec 2019 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #35
The three C's ... Pluvious Dec 2019 #38
WWW Traildogbob Dec 2019 #25
Yes, it's a proven formula. Baked Potato Dec 2019 #41
Hillary isn't crooked and Nancy is sane The Wizard Dec 2019 #26
never understood evertonfc Dec 2019 #27
She isn't running against him. stopbush Dec 2019 #28
Mine, too. But those guys are dying off. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #29
The only way it works is if Skidmore Dec 2019 #31
News flash dotard... it isn't working! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #32
Crazy like a fox n/t NotASurfer Dec 2019 #36
Also crazy is not corrupt kurtcagle Dec 2019 #37
Insightful and valid observations Kurt !! (n/t) Pluvious Dec 2019 #39
Good point. Baked Potato Dec 2019 #42
The good thing is . . . Aussie105 Dec 2019 #40
That's his schtick. As you say, he has nothing else. spanone Dec 2019 #43

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
1. It's not going to work.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:32 AM
Dec 2019

Yes, the true-believer cult members will accept anything he says, but nobody else - even people who don't like her - will believe for a minute that she's crazy. She never raises her voice, never calls names, never acts angry. There's nothing even slightly crazy about her demeanor, ever. If you're going to try to attach a negative nickname to someone, it won't stick if it's the direct opposite of what the person is really like.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,261 posts)
2. Cowardly Donnie TrumPutin is terrified of the truth about him.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:38 AM
Dec 2019

He can't escape his impeachment and he's terrified that delaying the trial increases the likelihood that the truth will break through his fog of lies and reach more people.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. Rs think sticking a label is all that is necessary
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

"crazy" applies to him, not to anyone he tries to label as such.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
7. His dumbass nicknames aren't even clever.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:52 AM
Dec 2019

He already gave the "crazy" moniker to Bernie Sanders. And earlier he was calling her "Nervous Nancy", but I guess he couldn't get that one to stick.

Dipshit.

TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
8. They aren't supposed to be clever.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 11:53 AM
Dec 2019

They're playground insults, intended to jack up the rubes. And that they do.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
12. Like you say, I think this branding would be much much harder
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:04 PM
Dec 2019

Although Trump himself was far more corrupt than anyone who ever ran for President, he was able to elaborate on existing Clinton memes. There were memes that existed for decades that the Clintons - even when they didn't break laws - went to the very edge. As we all know, some of this was completely made up - and most of it was using the worst possible explanation (for the Clintons). Others - like the cattle trades, McAuliffe's 1996 fundraising were things a reasonable person could question.

By the time that Trump started saying "corrupt Hillary", he was standing on at least two decades of accusations.

Nancy Pelosi has long been a right wing target as a liberal (even radical liberal) from San Francisco. Had Trump characterized her as not representing the "real America", which somehow does not include either the east coast (the only part of the country the forefathers would recognize) or the west coast.

The facts show that she is a very capable Speaker. When she brings something to a vote - she knows what the result will be - and that is what the result is. If you think all speakers do this, look at Ryan and Boehner. Her precise, focused successful leadership of her caucus could not happen if she were impulsive or unhinged.

Not to mention, for anyone not committed to one side or the other, given the images of Pelosi and Trump -- it is clear which one is more easily seen as crazy ... and it is not Pelosi. I think that means the targeting will fail completely. It does not matter if his base repeats it, no one else will agree.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
13. Don't like Nancy?
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:06 PM
Dec 2019

Fine, don't vote for her in 2020. Focus on Trump's criminality, ignore the Pelosi distraction.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
14. Nothing he repeats pisses me off more than "Witch Hunt!"
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

Calling Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" is a close second.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
18. I get really annoyed when I hear people repeat his bullshit - from his rudimentary nicnames to his
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:20 PM
Dec 2019

stupid overused elementary phrases.

dustyscamp

(2,223 posts)
21. It's annoying when we label these scumbags "Deplorable or Cult45" they take it as a badge of honor
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 12:42 PM
Dec 2019

We need to wipe the smile of these fucktards and label them with something that will wipe the smirk from their faces. Maybe FalsePatriot or America's Scorn. Just something catchy that will stick to them

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
30. The best labels are the uncomfortable truths for the GOP supporters
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

instead of his brand of childish immature hyperbole name calling
such as: traitors, criminals, Nazis, white supremacists, racists, misogynists, child abusers, sexual predators, etc...

RainCaster

(10,842 posts)
33. I like that idea
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:19 PM
Dec 2019

Although I also like Trumpanzees, it explains their poo flinging habits rather well.

Response to Dukkha (Reply #30)

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
25. WWW
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:50 PM
Dec 2019

I grew up with a dad that was, still is, a fanatical Wrestling fan and believed, believes it is all 100 percent reality. To no surprise he believes Fox and Rusty Limp-balls is 100 percent reality. I feel certain "The Base" are exactly like my dad. He is a good man, God fearing, but extremely gullible to this shit and defends tRump while surviving on less than $900 per month SS and deeply depends on Medicare. He will not listen to a word. Trump has deep ties to the old WWW, and when you watch him, he is exactly like the preflight ranting promos of bullshit. Our GOP criminal thugs follow the WWW media scam to a tee.

 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
27. never understood
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 01:55 PM
Dec 2019

why Democrats don't brand Trump with Racist Trump or Putin's little bitch. Why can't we play low ball?

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
29. Mine, too. But those guys are dying off.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

Younger cult followers aren’t benign bitter old men. New are much more violent and cruel.

I think they will wiggle a long time after we remove the head in2020.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
31. The only way it works is if
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:04 PM
Dec 2019

media starts using it as part of reporting. If they start that it is every person's patriotic duty to jump on them with cleats on both feet.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
37. Also crazy is not corrupt
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:36 PM
Dec 2019

Crazy is an interesting pejorative, and it shows Trump''s age. When he was young, asylums were still a known memory, though many had been closed by then. To be called crazy was saying that a person should be commited. When Reagan defunded mental health, one unexpected side effect was that psychiatric hospitals that had doubled as convenient private prisons, also went away.

Today "crazy" has a different connotation it means cunning, unpredictable, devious or even awe-inspiring, with a considerably more positive interpretation. It is also a sign of how much he fears Pelosi.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
42. Good point.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 04:30 PM
Dec 2019

That’s his whole persona. Playing old timer, folksy. Just ole innocent Trump, just tryin’ to help America. He’s trying to keep people in his era. Easier to manipulate.

Like saying President Obama was “tapping his wires”.

Aussie105

(5,334 posts)
40. The good thing is . . .
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 03:46 PM
Dec 2019

we have now seen the full range of Trump's 'business acumen' as applied to US politics, and his 'ability' to belittle his perceived opponents.

It's sad, but that is his full skill set, there is nothing else in his bag of tricks.

He has gone into hiding, occasionally peering over the parapets of his Fox hole to fire a shot at what he perceives to be his closest enemy. And Twittering weird stuff from the past that he believes support him. Bigly sad.

It's just taking a while for his followers to realize he has fizzled out.

Nancy is doing it right. Sitting back and giving Trump room to melt down all by himself.

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