BREAKING: Gov. Justice (W.Va.) approves firing of all involved in Nazi-like salute

[babylonsister]

That's how you do it!

https://wvva.com/2019/12/30/breaking-gov-justice-approves-firing-of-all-involved-in-nazi-like-salute/?fbclid=IwAR27D2KYnGVyuSaeNPU3eOFG7Ism37pq7pvt8_s-dUgTHgC1IcJIQgQNEbw#.Xgou3wUa0gQ.twitter

BREAKING: Gov. Justice approves firing of all involved in Nazi-like salute
December 30, 2019
10:49 am


CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WVVA) - Gov. Jim Justice announced today that he has received and reviewed the official report completed by the West Virginia Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety related to the West Virginia Division of Corrections and Rehabilitation Academy Class 18 and has approved the recommendations submitted by DMAPS Secretary Jeff Sandy.

“I have reviewed the factual information regarding this incident that was provided by Secretary Sandy, and have approved all of his recommendations,” Gov. Justice said. “I expressed my thanks to him and the entire Department for quickly getting this report done.

“As I said from the beginning, I condemn the photo of Basic Training Class 18 in the strongest possible terms. I also said that this act needed to result in real consequences – terminations and dismissals. This kind of behavior will not be tolerated on my watch in any agency of State government.

“We have a lot of good people in our Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety. But this incident was completely unacceptable. Now, we must continue to move forward and work diligently to make sure nothing like this ever happens again.”

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. Hooray!

People need to get the message that this is not Nazi Germany. Not yet, at least.

[dewsgirl]

2. I posted a thread on this when then photo first came out.

I am so happy about this.

[Merlot]

3. Why are their faces blurred?

If someone in the group was not making the salute, I could understand their face being blurred. These are adults, not chldren and not victims.

[crickets]

5. +1

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. +2

[calimary]

11. Good question.

There HAVE TO be consequences for this shit. If this happens and there’s no price to pay, then it’ll keep on happening.

If there’s any doubt, look at trump. That impeachment is probably the first time he’s faced an ACTUAL penalty for his shit. And this one will stick to him like tar and duct tape for all of history. In every history book, wiki or other online reference source, EVERYTHING. From now on. And all the spinning and dancing and waffling and lying and baloney-spewing and bullshitting and distracting and deflecting and “what-about’ing” and other assorted excuse-making and water-muddying will NOT change that. It’s a FACT. And that’s what it will ALWAYS be. It’s the kind of fact from the REAL reality world outside the Pox Noise/trump/GOP bubble-world.

This is no “wish sandwich” - as the Blues Brothers would say - where you have two pieces of bread and you wish you had some meat. The republi-CON version of that is: you think (or “believe”) if you just keep calling it that, something will somehow magically appear between those bread slices to transform it into a legitimate sandwich.

[PatrickforO]

17. It isn't just stuff like this - it is the for-profit concentration camps dotting

our entire nation. Salutes like this one are just the tip of the iceberg. Trump and his criminals must be held accountable for their crimes against humanity.

[malaise]

34. +1,000

Should be an OP

[appalachiablue]

44. +2,000 pls. make an OP

[KPN]

16. +3!

[SunSeeker]

19. +4!

[uponit7771]

39. +5

[Mr.Bill]

42. Legal counsel probably advised it

due to it being a personnel matter. Wouldn't want to hamper them being hired by another agency, you know.

[dchill]

48. +1.

[Aristus]

4. Good for him.

He must have been reminded of how many West Virginians fought against the Nazis in World War II. Chuck Yeager not the least of them.

[George II]

6. Great news! Get rid of the whole lot of them. By the way, Governor Justice is a republican....

....AND a billionaire (the richest person in West Virginia) Thankfully common decency still exists even in the groups that are sweepingly condemned.

[tblue37]

47. He ran as a Democrat, and then once he was eected, he switched to Republican. A wolf in

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sheep's clothing.

[dware]

53. But, in this case, he did do the right thing,

so, kudos to him for taking the action recommended.

[Chemisse]

51. Party at the local level can be quite different than in national politics.

That's why I never vote a straight ticket. I always go down the list one by one. Usually they are all Dems, but not always.

[George II]

54. I'm involved with local politics and for about the last 10 years we've had virtually no political...

....discord between the two parties. In fact, there have been occasions where our republicans have been more open to working together than some of our Democrats.

[Maggiemayhem]

57. Justice ran and won as a Democrat

He then switched parties and pledged his support for Trump. He is a coal Barron who doesnt pay his taxes. He did one right thing but it was probably because The Appalachian Storage billions was not included in the federal budget. Just what we need more chemical and oil related storage and cracker plants and more plastics.

[3catwoman3]

7. Kudos to the governor.

Let’s hope the idiots learned something.

[irisblue]

8. Good on him

(and that I am in fact complementing a Republican is a bit dizzy making)

[wnylib]

9. More of this kind of consequences

across the country is what we need today.

[warmfeet]

12. Now that is holding people to account for their actions.

Excellent news.

[not_the_one]

13. dox 'em

Let their families, friends, associates KNOW how they feel.

Just losing their job will just make them feel like martyrs. They should have NO, or at least a minuscule support network to fall back on. They need to know what it feels like to REALLY be an "other" that no one wants in their lives.

[paleotn]

14. Excellent!

Never, ever give Nazis a pass....ever. They must be rooted out root and branch before they ever have a chance to spread. But, unfortunately, that's not happening now. I think somewhere we lost some of our institutional memory when it comes to fascists, particularly the Nazis flavor. Maybe as the greatest generation dies off, the emotion of it dissipates. It's becoming as real to some as the War of 1812...their grandparent's or great grandparent's war. My parents are WWII generation and it wasn't until very late in life that dad opened up somewhat about his experiences in Europe 43 to 45. It was gut wrenching. No wonder he wanted to simply put it away and forget it. Much of it he took to his grave. And his white hot rage when Nazis marched in Skokie in the late 70's made perfect sense. He literally wanted to kill every single one of them with his bare hands.

These people...all of them...need to be severely punished. Part of their punishment should be 24 / 7 holocaust documentaries and Shindler's List until it finally gets through their thick skulls that this shit is real, deadly and the heart of evil.

[Lucky Luciano]

32. I hate Illinois nazis.

[paleotn]

40. Shoulda saw that one coming. :- )

[Maggiemayhem]

59. You get it.

[Initech]

15. Good, fuck Nazis!

[smirkymonkey]

18. Hear, hear!

[Liberalhammer]

20. A class of white nationalist terrorists

They better watch these guys.

[nycbos]

21. Broken clocks are right twice a day.

But credit where credit is do. This type of behavior can never be tolerated.

[SWBTATTReg]

22. Good! Didn't listen to any nonsense like the cadets in one situation that were flashing...

the white power symbol and they explained it away as being something else. That excuse was BS. This governor didn't put up w/ any nonsense and fired the whole batch of them. Good! We need more like this guy in office, who isn't afraid of doing what's right. What's really pathetic is that I don't see a single one of the students pictured above who's not doing the salute. Not a one.

[Hamlette]

23. Byrd is the name of the instructor of the class

who some cadets said forced them to use the salute. (ps Byrd is female). But if you click through the link provided in the op to the original article by WVVA (whatever that is) you see this:

The photo is captioned, "Hail Byrd."

The late Senator Robert C. Byrd was briefly a member of the Klu Klux Klan, but he left the group and denounced racial intolerance.

https://wvva.com/2019/12/05/gov-justice-wants-firing-of-all-involved-in-nazi-like-salute/

Disappointing that the media doesn't do the leg work.

[grantcart]

25. Thanks for posting

[XRubicon]

35. Is Karrie Byrd (instructor) related to the senator?

They just randomly add a reference to the senator without any context?

The students were "hailing Byrd" (their instructor not the senator).

[appalachiablue]

46. I wondered about the name, thanks for the explanation

[Maggiemayhem]

58. Byrd is a common name in WV and Virginia

[spanone]

24. Trump has made every nazi feel welcomed and emboldened.

[Farmer-Rick]

56. Exactly, Traitor Trump has made German Nazism vogue again.

My father fought in WWII to stop the Nazis.

Trump and his Nazi loving stupidity is an insult to all the military who fought in WWII. Our parents and grandparents who fought against Hitler would be absolutely ashamed of this president and these Nazis.

[underpants]

26. I hate West Virginia Nazis

[cp]

27. Yes

[Tanuki]

28. Good for Justice. Too bad West Point and the Naval Academy did not have the same

honesty and decency to do the same when their smug, racist cadets recently flashed "white power" gestures on national television.

[keithbvadu2]

29. America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

Yet here they are in Charlottesville marching to "take back America".

KKK Conservative boasting:

“We killed six million Jews the last time,” he answered. “Eleven million is nothing.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article167939222.html

[DBoon]

50. I have a fantasy

of the deceased troops who fought in D-Day coming back from the dead to fight these "alt right" Nazis with the same determination they had in 1944

[Evolve Dammit]

30. BS crazy and dangerous domestic terrorists. Fire, indict, arrest, prosecute...all of 'em.

These are crimes against America.

[Hortensis]

31. I want to grab and hug some people. :)

This very strong stand suggests the investigation did not turn up mitigating or extenuating reasons.

[wallyworld2]

33. Great News

You can't give an inch on this kind of thing.

These are not compassionate, empathetic, humane, human beings.

They are not to be tolerated

Because it only gets worse if you do.

They see that as weakness and an opportunity to treat others as second class citizens, without rights

[Takket]

36. good riddance

this is true leadership. Thank you governor.

[Lucky Luciano]

37. A republican doing the right thing with no obvious ulterior motive.

Color me impressed.

[drray23]

38. Jim justice was a Democrat for years.

He was elected as a Democrat for governor and later on switched to republican. It was never clear why.

[Maggiemayhem]

60. He was a registered Republican before the election

Switched to Democrat to secure the election and promptly switched back to Republican. He is running for re-election as a Republican in 2020. We have an excellent candidate for Democratic Governor, Steve Smith for a change.

[Dukkha]

41. I count 29 scalps to be had!

[BlueWI]

43. Great news!

Nazi salutes during basic training? Really?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

45. Good for him

[softydog88]

49. Bravo!

One quick action obliterates any amount of empty rhetoric. This is a great example of getting shit done!

[samnsara]

52. their families must be so proud of them..getting fired from a cushy state job with all the bennies..

...right at Christmas time...

[boomer_wv]

61. CO's

hardly have a cushy job.

WV starting pay for a CO is about $25k a year working 12 hours shifts in a place where you get a warning on the first day about how you could get rape-murdered.

[IronLionZion]

55. The worst part of this story

The report found that the Nazi salute originated with a cadet who encouraged classmates to use it “as a sign of respect for Byrd,” a reference to instructor Karrie Byrd. Several other cadets reportedly objected to making a Nazi salute and called it out as inappropriate, only for the instigating cadet to tell them, “Look at me, I am black and I am doing it,” the report said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/12/30/prison-guard-trainees-were-photographed-giving-nazi-salute-whole-class-got-fired/

[NNadir]

62. A Republican Trump worshiper who doesn't approve on Nazis?

He may find himself the target of angry tweets from the Nazi in the White House.