elderberries help block flu virus -- i didn't know this

[orleans]

Last edited Tue Dec 31, 2019, 09:18 PM - Edit history (1)

ON EDIT: HOLD ON -- it has come to my attention that APPARENTLY THIS LINK IS AN "IFFY" PSEUDOSCIENCE WEBSITE--
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GETTING A FLU VACCINE


"Study: Elderberries Block Flu Virus From Attaching To and Entering Human Cells"

"Scientists have identified a chemical compound in elderberries that immediately immobilizes the flu virus.

Previous studies have already shown elderberry extract can ease flu symptoms and cut the duration of the illness in half, but a new study explains exactly how the ancient remedy works.

The unique phytochemicals found in elderberries block the virus from entering, or even attaching to, our healthy cells, when taken preventatively during flu season.

Even if the flu has already taken hold, the compound prevents the virus from replicating, eliminating symptoms within 48 hours."
https://returntonow.net/2019/12/30/study-elderberries-block-flu-virus-from-attaching-to-and-entering-human-cells/?fbclid=IwAR35PN4KZNab2BpBUr9llzjkEh9BV-m88SuaTT6kjnSH09hTEV9hl-bqF1k

[Liberty Belle]

1. Nice to see our grannies were right - drink your elderberry tea!

[NurseJackie]

15. This comes to mind... 😀😁😂🤣

[Pluvious]

21. Hmmm...

Is this the old classic dark comedy with the body in the hutch below the window ?

Rotfl

[NurseJackie]

22. Yes... it's the Brewster Sisters: Abby and Martha

... from the movie Arsenic and Old Lace (they are also the same women who played Abby and Martha in the Broadway play.)

[Pluvious]

25. I THOUGHT so !! Lmao - Carry Grant was such a classic straight man

Not the kind of movie you'd expect from way back then.

It was fabulously entertaining

[JDC]

45. My first thought exactly.

Charge!!!!!

[NurseJackie]

48. Deeee-LIGHTED!

[TheBlackAdder]

43. Elecampane eradicates pneumonia, chronic bronchitis infections, anthrax and chest colds.

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Never go into the hospital without it.

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[Demovictory9]

2. ive never seen elderberries for sale

[handmade34]

4. Sambucus nigra... often sold

commercially under scientific name... I have bushes and sell elderberry syrup from my house

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Just checked, but Sambuca liqueur is very different. Often doesn't have any elderberry in it.

Unlike the extract you illustrate, which is interesting to know about.

[Jane Austin]

54. It's cheaper to make your own.

Or buy Elderberry capsules.

Since my daughter-in-law started making Elderberry syrup and giving it to me, I haven't had a case of bronchitis or a bad cold.

It's been a couple of years now.

[Jane Austin]

56. Here's a recipe for Elderberry syrup

Ingredients

3 cups water
3/4 cup dried elderberries
3/4 tsp cinnamon (optional)
1/4 tsp cloves (optional)
1 tsp dried ginger (optional)
1 cup honey (see Recipe Notes for alternatives)

Instructions

Combine the berries and spices (if using) and water in a saucepan.
Bring to boil.

Simmer for 30 min to an hour until the water is reduced by about a half.

Mash the berries in the water, or blend in a blender.

Strain through a cheesecloth or nut milk bag (optional).

Add sweetener. Heat, if needed, to combine. (heat gently if using honey to not destroy the enzymes.)

Store in a jar or bottle in the refrigerator.
That's it.

Super simple.

Keep this on hand all year round to help keep your immune system healthy, and use extra when fighting off “a bug.”

[MontanaMama]

87. Thanks for this.

Elderberries grow wild here. I’ll pick some before the bears get to them.

[Jane Austin]

88. You're welcome!

If the bears want them, while you're out picking, just let them have 'em.

I think I read that the stems and leaves aren't good for you, so remember to just cook the berries!

[womanofthehills]

14. Whole Foods carries the juice

Kind of sour, but good.

[NurseJackie]

24. I wonder if the elderflower liqueur provides any health benefits...

... that way I can claim "it's medicinal"

[cwydro]

57. Good to know!

I’m going to check this out.

I very rarely get sick, but it can’t hurt.

[womanofthehills]

66. I found it at the checkout with other natural flu meds, not with the juices

It's a jar about 4 or 5 inches tall for under $2.00.

[cwydro]

89. Thanks! I'll look for it next trip.

Now I want to plant some of the bushes!

[Grasswire2]

30. elderberry is easily available in natural supplement form.

Also beneficial substances like Hawthorn, Oregon Grape, etc.

And you can learn a lot about the benefits on a site called Life Extension which publishes a monthly magazine free that is highly recommended and also available on google search.

[calimary]

3. Most interesting.

[Pachamama]

5. Holunder Saft or Holunder Tee

That is what I grew up drinking as a child in Germany - that’s the name for Elderberry in German.

And a syrup preparation made from Holunder when sick that you get at the Pharmacy.

I frequently in preparing for flu season stock up on these things and bring them back to US.

[RobinA]

20. So, Does It

seem like it helps?

[Pachamama]

44. I believe it does work

Anytime I have felt a cold coming on or my children were feeling sick or I knew it was flu season, I would make the tea or give them the juice and it seemed to either make us better or entirely prevent us from getting very sick.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

6. Have been foraging for wild elderberries for a while...

Last summer I took cuttings from the bushes rooted them for the anchoring corner of my “Farm”acy an all natural medicinal garden. We intend to have a grove of elderberry bushes the berries are delicious.

[WhiteTara]

13. I grew them for the Cedar Waxwings

and have had a couple of pies and flower drinks, but haven't used it for medicine for humans. Good to know. I'm making sure I have them where ever we move.

[llmart]

8. I've grown this in my yard.

The native elderberry bush's botanical name is sambucus canadensis. It's fairly easy to grown, the birds love the berries, and if you have the space for it, they form a nice hedge. I did some of my volunteer hours for my Advanced Master Gardener courses at an old house in our town that had the native bushes on the property. I took some cuttings, planted them in the very back of my acre lot and in a few years the bushes were higher than my 6' fence.

My mother, who was born in 1911 always used elderberries for jam and pies.

[Dave Starsky]

9. My father smelt of elderberries.

I don't recall him ever coming down with the flu.

[superpatriotman]

11. Whoosh!

Right over their heads.

[JHB]

12. ...but he did have a strange facination with hamsters

[IcyPeas]

23. haha that's exactly where my brain went to

[Grasswire2]

31. was your mother a hamster? nt

[Dave Starsky]

37. I fart in your general direction.

Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time!

[smirkymonkey]

61. It's too bad that your mother was a hamster.

and that you are the son of a window dresser.

[essme]

10. There are at least two DUers

that are frantically googling "Elderberry Woo" right now I expect they will chime in soon. The theme of the posts will be "this does not replace the flu shot!"

And yes- I have had my flu shot. I also love Sambucal.

[PatSeg]

17. The article is based on a recent study

at the University of Sydney by a professor and two doctors. Just because something does not come from a pharmaceutical company, does not mean it is "woo".

Conducted by Professor Fariba Deghani, Dr Golnoosh Torabian and Dr Peter Valtchev as part of the ARC Training Centre for the Australian Food Processing Industry that was established in the Faculty of Engineering and IT, the study showed that compounds from elderberries can directly inhibit the virus's entry and replication in human cells, and can help strengthen a person's immune response to the virus.

Although elderberry's flu-fighting properties have long been observed, the group performed a comprehensive examination of the mechanism by which phytochemicals from elderberries combat influenza infections.

"What our study has shown is that the common elderberry has a potent direct antiviral effect against the flu virus," said Dr Golnoosh Torabian.

"It inhibits the early stages of an infection by blocking key viral proteins responsible for both the viral attachment and entry into the host cells."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190423133644.htm

By the way, the effectiveness of flu vaccines is variable. The last season's vaccine was only 29% effective. If you happen to be one of the people it doesn't help, it would be nice to have alternatives.

I guess I was one of the two DUers who went on Google. I happened to find the premise interesting and wanted to see if it was credible.

[KPN]

29. +1 ... Thanks.

[essme]

32. No, I meant

The couple here that hate all natural remedy threads. Don't worry...they will show up.😀

[PatSeg]

34. Oh, I'm so sorry!

I thought YOU were one of those. They used to show up like clockwork, but they've been quieter lately. They particularly liked any threads about Monsanto or GMOs, but many of them have disappeared now that Monsanto has been the subject of so many lawsuits. I always tried to stay one step ahead of them.

I apologize for misunderstanding your comment.

[essme]

39. Hello back!

I always have elderberry syrup on the house😊

[PatSeg]

41. When I read your comment,

I didn't know what Sambucal was, I assumed it was a drug. I have now added the syrup to my cart at Amazon. Sounds like a good staple to have around.

[essme]

42. It's pricey, but I really like it

My grandfather was never without a couple of bottles.

He was not an anti vaxxer, as he was a baby, and his mother taught public school through the flu epidemic, fought (and was injured) in WWII, but he loved his Sambucol. He died a couple of years ago at 101. I miss the old man.

BTW, he despised ALL Democrats. None of us could ever figure out why. His worst hatred was directed towards FDR. Never could understand it-

[Tipperary]

83. I am sure they will show up soon enough!

[SidDithers]

50. And there are many DUers, in this very thread, credulously believing whatever they read...

'cause they "saw it on the internet".

DU would be a much better place if posters did some secondary googling before posting medical nonsense.

Sid

[womanofthehills]

67. More studies: OMG! I found these on the internets!!! and they say elderberries help bigly

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016 - Israel

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21352539 - Germany

[PatSeg]

69. Thanks for posting

Good to see you. We haven't done this in quite awhile.

[womanofthehills]

71. Good to see you too!!!!

[PatSeg]

75. Everything has been Trump or politics

for so long, I haven't had a good discussion like this in awhile. At least no one is defending Monsanto anymore.

[Archae]

85. This same web site claimed kids drinking flouridated water had lower IQ's.

The OP is total bullshit.

[PatSeg]

94. Perhaps you'd prefer National Center for Biotechnology Information

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21352539

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

A couple of woo government sites I guess.

[Codeine]

52. The study referenced

was retracted by the journal that published. They also hid the fact that it was funded by a company that sells an elderberry supplement.

[Disaffected]

64. I prefer

eye of newt and Carter's Little Liver Pills.

[PatSeg]

16. Very interesting

Thanks for posting.

[Pobeka]

18. An in-law makes fabulous elderberry wine

I haven't ever contracted a flu after drinking it.

[ismnotwasm]

19. Reminds me of an early Elton John song

Also, is this effective against all flu virus’s?

Study is interesting. A sample;

2.2. Sample preparation
Fresh, commercially farmed Tasmanian elderberries (Sambucus nigra) were harvested and the fruits was separated from their stalks. Approximately 200 g of fruit was homogenized using Nutribullet blender for 2 min. A double layer cheesecloth sieve was used to separate the juice from the paste. The pH of the elderberry juice was 4.4 ± 0.1, and its soluble solids content (°Brix) was 17.7%. The juice was pasteurized using high-pressure carbon dioxide treatment at 18 MPa and 45 °C for 90 min (Torabian et al., 2018) and diluted to the desired concentrations. Cyn 3-glu was serially diluted with the DMEM media to the concentrations of 5, 2.5, 1.25, 0.625, 0.315, 0.16, 0.08, and 0.04 mg/ml. Before analysis, all samples were filtered through a 0.22 µm Whatman filter.

2.3. Hemagglutination inhibition assay
Immediately after receiving, turkey blood was centrifuged for 10 min at 200 g. The RBCs pellet was washed using 0.05% v/v BSA in PBS. The mixture was centrifuged twice for 5 min at 200 g, and the cells were diluted with PBS to the appropriate concentration (1% v/v).

Elderberry juice was treated with Receptor Destroying Enzyme (RDE) in a ratio of 1:4 to remove any nonspecific inhibitors that may exist in the elderberry. The mixture was incubated in a water bath at 37 °C overnight. The solution was further diluted by 1.6% w/v sodium citrate to a ratio of 1:5, which resulted in 30-fold final dilution of the juice. Subsequently, 25 ?l of PBS was distributed into each well of the first row of 96-well plate, followed by dispensing 25 ?l of elderberry RDE treated extract (1:30) in the first well and making two-fold serial dilution along the microplate. 25 ?l of 4 HAU influenza viruses were then added to the wells. After 2 h incubation at 4 °C, 50 µl RBC were added to the wells to the final volume 100 µl in each well.

As a negative control, 25 ?l of PBS, 25 ?l of 4 HAU influenza virus A/PR 8/34 (H1N1), and 50 µl RBC were dispensed to each well. As a positive control, 25 ?l of PBS was distributed into each well, followed by dispensing 25 ?l of influenza virus A/PR 8/34 (H1N1) antiserum, in the first well and making two-fold dilution across the microplate. Another 25 ?l of 4 HAU influenza virus was added to the wells. After 2 h incubation at 4 °C, 50 µl RBC were added to the wells. The settling pattern of the RBCs suspension was observed by mixing 50 µl of PBS with 50 µl of RBCs and allowing the cells to settle. Results were read when the RBC control has settled. Hemagglutination appeared as a uniform salmon-pink film covering the entire bottom of the wells, while Hemagglutination inhibition occurred as a sharp red button on the bottom of the wells.

[KPN]

26. Hurry. Where can I get some?

But I am quite serious in that my family doesn't get flu shots due to an immediate family history with Guillain-Barre Syndrome.

[PatSeg]

35. Check out Amazon

They have a lot of elderberry products and you can read the customers' comments. I put some Sambucus Sugar-Free Elderberry Syrup in my cart.

[KPN]

36. Cool. Thanks!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

73. Didn't know they make elderberry syrup

In sugar free. I'm diabetic and anything that can help my immune system is a plus.

[PatSeg]

76. I didn't either

and I really didn't know all that much about elderberries until now. Sounds like something worth checking out.

[StarryNite]

86. You can make your own elderberry syrup.

It's a lot cheaper and can also be frozen in serving sizes ice cube trays. You can find recipes online and buy the dried elderberries on Amazon.

[KPN]

92. Thx. I like it.

[ret5hd]

27. .

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. From the "Journal of functional foods"

No information on the number of subjects in the trial, controls, double blind methodology, etc. Just mention of lab tests used to measure effect.

This wouldn’t stand up to FDA scrutiny, despite loosened standards due to big pharma lobbying, and use of one’s own critical thinking skills is recommended.

[PatSeg]

40. A study was done at

the University of Sydney in Australia this year and the results were interesting. This was not a United States study.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190423133644.htm

[sdfernando]

33. Elderberry syrup is great at relieving coughs as well and easing cold symptoms too. /NT

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

38. Big Pharma is frantically seeking ways to patent elderberries.

If there's a way to pull elderberries from the market, then sell them in pharmacies at a huge profit ...

[SidDithers]

46. Anti-vaccine woo site...

more from returntonow.net...

7 Reasons Vaccinating Your Child Could Be the Worst Mistake You Ever Make

MYTH #1 : Vaccines prevent disease
TRUTH: Many diseases such as polio and whooping cough (pertussis) are CAUSED by vaccines.

The number of infants receiving three or more doses of the pertussis vaccine rose from 61 percent to 96 percent between 1991 and 2012. The outbreak of the pertussis virus increased 10-fold over the same period.

Vaccines also contribute to CANCER by not allowing the immune system to exercise itself, suppressing symptoms, and allowing a build-up of debris that a virus may have carried out of the body

It would be nice if posters did some research into their sources before posting.



Sid

[orleans]

62. you're right. a friend posted this on fb

i'm not saying don't get a vaccine

and i am not familiar with this website. i should have looked around on it before putting it on du.

[womanofthehills]

70. There are other links with Europen studies saying elderberries help

So, glad you posted it so we can all get some.

[PatSeg]

72. Most of us appreciated the article

so no need to apologize.

Above Womaninthehills posted two more links to studies about elderberries' efficacy in treatment and/or prevention of the flu. Hardly pseudoscience sites!

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21352539


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

There was no implication in the original post that people should not get vaccines. There are a handful of people here who vehemently oppose anything that does not come from a pharmaceutical company.

Thanks again for your original post!

[orleans]

82. thanks for sharing this n/t

[Nailzberg]

47. A flawed and retracted study. Don't skip your flu shots.

University of Sydney pulls claims elderberries can fight flu

https://www.smh.com.au/national/university-of-sydney-pulls-claims-elderberries-can-fight-flu-20190515-p51nij.html


Look. My friends mom makes this killer elderberry tincture and makes us all take a shot of it if we come over to her house. I love the stuff. Its basically flavored vodka, and I dont I fool myself into thinking its medicine. Its remedy from the old country, people died of the flu all the time in the old country.

[SidDithers]

49. Yup...

beware "science" posted on anti-vax sites.

Thanks for the update.

Sid

[womanofthehills]

65. Dept of Virology Study - Hebrew Univ-Hadasssah Med School, Jerusalum STUDY - all good - it helps!

Randomized study of the efficacy and safety of oral elderberry extract in the treatment of influenza A and B virus infections.
Zakay-Rones Z1, Thom E, Wollan T, Wadstein J.
Author information

1
Department of Virology, Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School, Jerusalem, Israel.

Abstract

Elderberry has been used in folk medicine for centuries to treat influenza, colds and sinusitis, and has been reported to have antiviral activity against influenza and herpes simplex. We investigated the efficacy and safety of oral elderberry syrup for treating influenza A and B infections. Sixty patients (aged 18-54 years) suffering from influenza-like symptoms for 48 h or less were enrolled in this randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study during the influenza season of 1999-2000 in Norway. Patients received 15 ml of elderberry or placebo syrup four times a day for 5 days, and recorded their symptoms using a visual analogue scale. Symptoms were relieved on average 4 days earlier and use of rescue medication was significantly less in those receiving elderberry extract compared with placebo. Elderberry extract seems to offer an efficient, safe and cost-effective treatment for influenza. These findings need to be confirmed in a larger study.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

[GusBob]

59. Lol too late

Common DU affliction
Nobody reads the link or thru the thread to find the truth
Hint: next time try “link to tweet” everyone falls all over themselves around here for twitter lies

[Hortensis]

51. Vaccination to not get flu at all, elderberry syrup to hopefully

lessen the symptoms and shorten the course if the vaccine doesn't work.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

Other NCBI articles on this are on the right, including a 1995 Israeli study reporting real efficacy using Sambucol in both influenza A and B strains of those days. Sambucol's available OTC in the U.S. as "immune support."

[PatSeg]

63. And flu vaccines

are not like other vaccines. Last season the flu vaccine was only 29% effective. Even in a good year, they are 50% to 60% effective. There is no reason why a person can't get the vaccine AND take elderberry syrup.

I don't know what some people here are arguing about, as I didn't see anyone talking about anti-vaxers until they came here making fun of the post.

We haven't done this in awhile, just like old times!

[Hortensis]

68. Ummm, did old times for the holidays. Enough for a while!

Nothing like moaning and tossing through a miserable, lost week to make vaccines look good. Since they've apparently worked for us for the past several years, I'd actually forgotten Sambucus extracts, though our son and DIL use one, I'm sure not Sambucol brand but something cheaper.

The other reason I haven't used it is that I have an autoimmune disorder and there's concern that it could exacerbate that. More testing needed, and thanks to all who've been helping elect the Republicans who've slashed over a billion dollars from medical research.

[PatSeg]

74. I'm so sorry to hear

you have an autoimmune disorder. That really can screw so many things up. So did you mean that the Sambucus could exacerbate it or the flu vaccine? It seems that lately I hear of a lot of people with autoimmune disease.

[Hortensis]

79. The Sambucus because it involved inflammatory reactions.

Reminds me that I haven't asked for a few years and should again, but back then my doctor told me the flu was the threat that could potentially cause serious problems and that I should definitely get vaccinated.

Autoimmunity is a whole new frontier. As you say, many medical conditions involve autoimmune reactions that were completely unknown and unsuspected until advances in technology revealed them. A link has been proven to schizophrenia and other tragic psychotic disorders, which suggests really exciting possibilities. And new tests can definitively identify fairly newly identified disorders people haven't heard of, which is what happened with me.

[PatSeg]

81. So your condition was a recent diagnosis then?

It seems that they are identifying a lot of conditions now as autoimmune. I suppose that opens up new doors for treatment of diseases that have been around for a long time.

[Hortensis]

90. No, several years now, diagnosis symptom-triggered.

MCTD. Some ultimately rather profound and limiting lifestyle changes control most of the symptoms, but unless I'm hit by a car at some point I'll have to go on medications. Hopefully less dangerous ones will have been developed by then. Research!

[PatSeg]

93. I had to look MCTD up

Is it similar to lupus? My daughter-in-law has lupus, but it took years to be accurately diagnosed. I have had enough bad experiences with medications, including being hospitalized, that I am always looking for safer, as well as more affordable alternatives. People who come here and scream "woo" and "pseudoscience" apparently have never been on the receiving end of life threatening treatments and prescription drugs.

Do you take flaxseed oil or something equivalent?

Happy New Year!

[Aristus]

53. Once again, cherry-picked data has caused people to reject the importance and efficacy of vaccines.

Studies published by the Cleveland Clinic, and studies conducted in Germany and Norway and published by the Institute for Medical Microbiology have shown that elderberry extract can lessen the symptoms of influenza.

It's important to remember that the focus here is on the symptoms, not the infection itself. Once you have the infection, you have the infection, which can be passed on to other people who have not undergone vaccination. There's no doubt that symptom-relief is an important part of influenza treatment, but as always, prevention is the best course of action.

At least one study built its test model on patients with reported "flu-like symptoms". They didn't specify what they regarded as "flu-like", but the assertion was non-specific enough to create doubt as to their testing protocol. I have patients who think a little cough and a sniffle are the flu. Others, who still think erroneously that "stomach flu" is an actual condition, cite nausea and vomiting.

Elderberry extract seems to have some properties in combating bacterial superinfection, an infection one can become susceptible to when immunocompromised by influenza viral infection. But again, the best way to combat either condition is through prevention.

I was disappointed, but not too surprised to see, as above, that the publishers of the Australian study have retracted their findings. As long as we have scientists who are willing to admit that they were wrong, and to go back and re-visit their data, we have a fighting chance to prevent deadly epidemics.

I count myself among those who hope for the emergence of all-natural cures and preventatives for deadly communicable diseases. But it's hard for a scientist to ignore the fact that, before the Industrial Revolution, and before the rise of modern allopathic medicine, everyone ate and drank 'all-natural' substances and availed themselves of 'all-natural' "cures", and still died in the horrifying millions because of infectious diseases.

"Immunizations are just a big payday for Big Pharma" is a common, but misguided concern among the anti-vaxx crowd, and even those who are "just asking questions". Pharmaceutical companies are required by law to provide vaccines for preventable diseases, even though they usually lose money on them. One class of medication they do make a lot of money on is influenza treatments, such as Tamiflu. Anyone who is that concerned about Big Pharma profits is well-advised to get their immunizations instead.

[ismnotwasm]

55. Yup

I’m at work. Doing hemodialysis today. Some of my people have the flu and I swear half the hospital is being worked up for it.

[womanofthehills]

77. No one is saying it's a cure - studies say it helps people recover faster

People over 60 are often not as protected by the flu vaccine because their bodies do not make as many antibodies, so gobbling up elderberries can be a good thing.

[Tipperary]

84. Funny, I saw no one saying we should not get a flu shot.

But all of a sudden, here the same old gang is, just as someone predicted above. Amusing, and so, so predictable.

[StarryNite]

91. Yup

And they're the ones telling people they should be reading and checking links yet they obviously didn't really read the original post which in no way told people not to get vaccinated.

[PatSeg]

95. Yes

The only ones on this thread who are talking about flu vaccines are the ones making fun of the article on elderberries. Some things never seem to change, sigh.

[Tipperary]

97. You are so right.

Funny how that prediction came true...

[PatSeg]

98. Some people need a new playbook!

[Tipperary]

99. I bought some elderberry gummies today, lol.

Does that make me an anti-vaxxer?

[PatSeg]

100. That's how it starts you know

Today gummies, tomorrow CBD oil!!! Its all downhill from here!

[womanofthehills]

78. OK - if you are looking for a study that names the flu virus types, here's your study

Inhibition of several strains of influenza virus in vitro and reduction of symptoms by an elderberry extract (Sambucus nigra L.) during an outbreak of influenza B Panama.
Zakay-Rones Z1, Varsano N, Zlotnik M, Manor O, Regev L, Schlesinger M, Mumcuoglu M.
Author information

1
Department of Virology, Hebrew University-Hadassah Medical School, Jerusalem, Israel.

Abstract

A standardized elderberry extract, Sambucol (SAM), reduced hemagglutination and inhibited replication of human influenza viruses type A/Shangdong 9/93 (H3N2), A/Beijing 32/92 (H3N2), A/Texas 36/91 (H1N1), A/Singapore 6/86 (H1N1), type B/Panama 45/90, B/Yamagata 16/88, B/Ann Arbor 1/86, and of animal strains from Northern European swine and turkeys, A/Sw/Ger 2/81, A/Tur/Ger 3/91, and A/Sw/Ger 8533/91 in Madin-Darby canine kidney cells. A placebo-controlled, double blind study was carried out on a group of individuals living in an agricultural community (kibbutz) during an outbreak of influenza B/Panama in 1993. Fever, feeling of improvement, and complete cure were recorded during 6 days. Sera obtained in the acute and convalescent phases were tested for the presence of antibodies to influenza A, B, respiratory syncytial, and adenoviruses. Convalescent phase serologies showed higher mean and mean geometric hemagglutination inhibition (HI) titers to influenza B in the group treated with SAM than in the control group. A significant improvement of the symptoms, including fever, was seen in 93.3% of the cases in the SAM-treated group within 2 days, whereas in the control group 91.7% of the patients showed an improvement within 6 days (p < 0.001). A complete cure was achieved within 2 to 3 days in nearly 90% of the SAM-treated group and within at least 6 days in the placebo group (p < 0.001). No satisfactory medication to cure influenza type A and B is available. Considering the efficacy of the extract in vitro on all strains of influenza virus tested, the clinical results, its low cost, and absence of side-effects, this preparation could offer a possibility for safe treatment for influenza A and B.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9395631

[ismnotwasm]

80. That's fabulous. Preventing flu is better

[PatSeg]

96. There you go!

Posting those government pseudo-science articles again!!!

[Bonx]

58. Me either! I'm not sure which product to buy online

There are several available.

[helpisontheway]

60. Elderberry does work for colds if you take it immediately when you start to feel sick

I keep it in our cabinet. I also got my flu/ pneumonia shot. However, Sambucol (elderberry) has helped all of us . If I come down with the flu (despite the flu shot) I will definitely try elderberry.

[dflprincess]

101. I use it for colds as well

(Also got the flu shot). After using it a few times I realized the eczema in my hands clears up when taking it. I can't say for sure the Sambucol is the reason but it must be more than coincidence.

[Texasgal]

102. And studies show that

eating a balanced diet of fruit and veggies build your immune system too.

Is there something that I am missing here?