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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould requiring the Senate to subpoena John Bolton be a condition for Speaker Pelosi to...
send over the articles of impeachment?
Or is demanding specific witness(es) a bad idea?
LonePirate
(13,407 posts)We should not demand specific witnesses. We should demand ALL witnesses.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)should be involved in any negotitation to get witnesses to testify. (Not just Bolton, but Mulvaney, Pompeo, Barr, Giuliani, Pence, Esper, etc)
Takket
(21,526 posts)what she needs is to open the door to witnesses and her impeachment managers can worry about the "who".
tableturner
(1,679 posts)The pressure is all on Mitch and a group of GOP senators with tough reelection campaigns coming, plus those like Romney, who cannot stand Trump, and I believe wants to be on the side of a fair trial, and who also wants to protect his legacy. He's not giving up the rule of law and his legacy for this vile president who has abused him. Pelosi needs to hold out until a fair trial is guaranteed. And yes, that means the testimony of certain specific witnesses must be written in stone. Anything else is tantamount to trusting Mitch, something that can NOT be done!
Here's the winning meme: "Mitch is holding out for a sham, rigged trial".
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And if she tries, she loses the upper hand.
Notice that she didn't say she's holding on to the articles until they guarantee a fair trial or promise to call certain witnesses. Instead, she said she's holding on to them because she can't appoint managers until she knows what the process will be since she needs to appoint the right managers for the process that will be put into place.
Takket's right - let her managers handle it.
pnwmom
(108,952 posts)What do you think about this? Is it plausible? Unlikely but possible? Impossible?
I realize this is in the weeds a bit, but the Democrats have to anticipate a kangaroo court, and the best way to deal with it is pre-emption of those tactics openly and publicly. First, supersede the Articles with new information.Since you have passed Articles of Impeachment, why does that NOT trigger the involvement of the Chief Justice? There is no law or rule that says you cannot invoke his authority until the Senate receives the Articles. This is in the nature of a pretrial Motion, isn't it? Second, bombard the Chief with discovery demands to take the momentum away from Mitch. Third, ask the SCOTUS for an expedited Hearing on the pending appeals on Trump's documents, financials, and all other evidence issues, so the Chief is guided by the full Court in his responses to these issues at the Senate Trial. Why not? Where does it say you cannot? And every time Mitch opposes you, he looks more unfair, more dishonest, and more violative of his Oath.
Talitha
(6,555 posts)Let's see how long they want to hang onto it.