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BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
1. That was Carter who we could trust but Reagun lied to get elected
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:35 PM
Dec 2019

and he used the hostages to win the election. You can't trust any GOP POTUS going back to Nixon. Those lying, cheating bastards can NEVER be trusted.

Mickju

(1,805 posts)
10. I was just telling my 60 year old cousin that today.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 08:19 PM
Dec 2019

She doesn't remember Ike, of course, but she also said she can't think of one honorable Republican. I liked Ike. I was 16 when he left office.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
12. I was 4 when Ike died in 1969
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 08:47 PM
Dec 2019

Mom & Dad were always loyal Dems, but Mom often said that they were pulling for him to run as a Dem in '52 (which he was urged to do by none other than Truman himself).

He broke for the Republicans, who, incidentally had a strong liberal faction at the time.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
8. Ha! *Everybody* looked like ol' Rupert back in '79...
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019

Just looking at the video still frame of him made me think of my brother and 3 teachers!

UTUSN

(70,762 posts)
9. Here's how David ROCKEFELLER and KISSINGER put the RatF***ing of CARTER into play
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 08:16 PM
Dec 2019
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212826243

Good vs bad deep states: The one that RatF***ed Jimmy CARTER:: Kissinger/David Rockefeller
RAYGUN and Poppy came later in the ratF***ing.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/29/world/middleeast/shah-iran-chase-papers.html
How a Chase Bank Chairman Helped the Deposed Shah of Iran Enter the U.S.
The fateful decision in 1979 to admit Mohammed Reza Pahlavi prompted the seizure of the American Embassy in Tehran and helped doom the Carter presidency.

By David D. Kirkpatrick
.... “The Eagle has landed,” Joseph V. Reed Jr., the chief of staff to the bank’s chairman, David Rockefeller, declared in a celebratory meeting at the bank the next morning.

Less than two weeks later, on Nov. 4, 1979, vowing revenge for the admission of the shah to the United States, revolutionary Iranian students seized the American Embassy in Tehran and then held more than 50 Americans — and Washington — hostage for 444 days.

The shah sought refuge in America. But President Jimmy Carter, hoping to forge ties to the new government rising out of the chaos and concerned about the security of the United States Embassy in Tehran, refused him entry for the first 10 months of his exile. Even then, the White House only begrudgingly let him in for medical treatment.

Now, a newly disclosed secret history from the offices of Mr. Rockefeller shows in vivid detail how Chase Manhattan Bank and its well-connected chairman worked behind the scenes to persuade the Carter administration to admit the shah, one of the bank’s most profitable clients. ....



https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a30363291/jimmy-carter-shah-iran-hostage-crisis-ronald-reagan/
This Is What the Deep State Actually Looks Like
The story of Jimmy Carter's administration and the shah of Iran tells us a whole lot about American meddling overseas and overseas meddling in America. So does Ronald Reagan's role.

This always was the original stupidity at the heart of over 40 years of poisonous relations between this country and Iran. (The 1953 coup that brought down the Mossadegh government in favor of bringing the shah to power was not stupidity. It was the calculated logic of imperium, which is not the same thing.) The documents examined by the Times for this report clearly indicate that the Carter Administration knew good and well that admitting the shah was the equivalent of lighting a fuse. But, like LBJ folding on Vietnam to the Harvard alumni association in his administration, Carter couldn’t or wouldn’t stand up against this gathering of the foreign policy Ents that came loping up the driveway of the White House. So the shah came to America and everything went to hell. ....

They included Henry A. Kissinger, the former secretary of state and the chairman of a Chase advisory board; John J. McCloy, the former commissioner of occupied Germany after World War II and an adviser to eight presidents as well as a future Chase chairman; a Chase executive and former C.I.A. agent, Archibald B. Roosevelt Jr., whose cousin, the C.I.A. agent Kermit Roosevelt Jr., had orchestrated a 1953 coup to keep the shah in power; and Richard M. Helms, a former director of the C.I.A. and former ambassador to Iran.

Charles Francis, a veteran of corporate public affairs who worked for Chase at the time, brought the documents to the attention of The Times.

“Today’s corporate campaigns are demolition derbies compared to this operation,” he said. “It was smooth, smooth, smooth and almost entirely invisible.” ....

(The Reagan people tried to run the riff that Reagan’s election had scared the Iranians into releasing the hostages. The Iran-Contra scandal took care of that fantasy, but that was five years later.) ....

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