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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 04:52 PM Dec 2019

Three term presidencies.

American presidents are at a disadvantage on the world stage in their second term, carrying the moniker of lame duck. If there was a three term limit, the GOP would have benefitted little, if at all. 1960, Eisenhower was certainly going to retire; The Reagan Era would have still have ended in 1992, and come 2000 Clinton was within an ace of pulling off an Israel/Palestine settlement.

Not to mention Bill and Obama would have won 3rd terms in blow outs.

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tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
1. It's possible Reagan would have remained president until 1997
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:04 PM
Dec 2019

With his health stage managed to the extent possible. They would have definitely tried to win a fourth term to “match” FDR.

I don’t support term limits for most offices, but the presidency is incredibly powerful, and the advantages of incumbency are immense. I think Washington’s precedent was generally a good one, and that eight years is enough for one man.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. Good presidents should be able to reap the rewards of a third term IMO.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:20 PM
Dec 2019

I'm thinking TR here, as well as Clinton and Obama.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
6. TR, Clinton, Obama.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:47 PM
Dec 2019

America has paid a heavy price for an arbitrary two term limit. 1941 - 1945 was the USA's finest hour. Yes a limit, three not two.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. I understand your point
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:49 PM
Dec 2019

and simply disagree. I believe that Washington was correct in his decision and the precedent that he set.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
9. Ulysees S. Grant and the end of reconstruction,
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:54 PM
Dec 2019

When AA's were becoming established in legislatures? As I said, the USA has paid a heavy price for two term limits.

(Washington was concerned about an American monarchy. The presidency was very much as experiment then).

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. And we may have likewise paid a heavy price
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:59 PM
Dec 2019

if we changed it to 3 terms. Would you really want 3 terms of Nixon, Reagan, Bush II, Trump? The suggested plan cuts both ways.

Be careful what you wish for.......

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
14. Bush II was done in 2008.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:06 PM
Dec 2019

The GOP could not have run away fast enough. It's not at all certain that Reagan would have won in 1988, or that his third term would have looked much different from Bush I.

Yeah I know it's just wistful thinking, but ...

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
8. Elections are the vehicle for term limits, not a stupid constitutional amendment.
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 05:50 PM
Dec 2019

The 22nd amendment is just about as stupid as the now repealed 18th.

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
13. A third term for Ulysses S Grant would gave cemented reconstruction,
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 06:01 PM
Dec 2019

A third term for Reagan would not have made much difference.

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