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KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:23 AM Jan 2020

OK, who's been dumping Miracle-Gro on the tumbleweed in WA?

either that or there's a huge leak out of the Hanford Site......

Ambushed: 15ft tumbleweeds trap drivers and force road closure
Mobile plants forced authorities to close a highway in both directions for hours in Washington state on New Year’s Eve
Associated Press in West Richland, Washington state

Thu 2 Jan 2020 02.13 GMT / First published on Wed 1 Jan 2020 18.39 GMT

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/01/tumbleweeds-trap-drivers-force-road-closure-washington

(snips)

Unlucky drivers in Washington state saw in the new year trapped under a glut of 15ft tumbleweeds, after the desiccated but mobile plants forced authorities to close a highway in both directions.

The Washington state patrol announced via Twitter at around 6.30pm local time on New Year’s Eve that drivers on State Route 240 near West Richland should use alternative routes. Trooper Sarah Clasen told KAPP-KVEW vehicles were trapped in a pile of tumbleweeds that were up to 15ft (4.57m) tall.


The state department of transportation used snow plows to clear the scene, a process trooper Chris Thorson said took about 10 hours. The road opened again at around 4.30am, well into 2020. Thorson said five cars and one 18-wheel semi truck were trapped. No injuries were reported.

“People were still stuck at midnight and rung in the new year trapped under the weeds,” Thorson said, adding that troopers found one abandoned car trapped in the tumbleweeds at daylight. No one was inside.

A truck trapped by a pile of tumbleweeds


KY............ ..........
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OK, who's been dumping Miracle-Gro on the tumbleweed in WA? (Original Post) KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 OP
Y'all know tumbleweed is RUSSIAN, right? RockRaven Jan 2020 #1
FAKE NEWS....they're Ukrainian... AJT Jan 2020 #2
Damn near DUzy worthy Brother Buzz Jan 2020 #5
Yup and HILLARY brought them over nilram Jan 2020 #12
Exactly. DURHAM D Jan 2020 #3
Kochia weed is actually more common Drahthaardogs Jan 2020 #13
Appears to be mostly a colloquial word with beginning references... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #7
Nice compilation! Grokenstein Jan 2020 #16
Perhaps someday, some brilliant shit will come up with a good use for them.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #22
Wow that's amazing! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #4
Didn't know tumbleweeds were aliens rickyhall Jan 2020 #6
Many similarities to Republicans... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #23
Darn! Now I have a new ear worm!! sagesnow Jan 2020 #8
I once squared up against a tumbleweed.... Seiad Jan 2020 #9
Some say they can be rigged to ward off Republicans and..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #14
In one car they found, no one was inside . . . tclambert Jan 2020 #10
Haha I thought the same thing! Beartracks Jan 2020 #25
Kick dalton99a Jan 2020 #11
Some of these ideas are pretty cute.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #17
Those suckers used to whip through town and pile up in front of doors, along with heaps Tikki Jan 2020 #15
It's like an old Outer Limits episode spiderpig Jan 2020 #18
Yeah, I thought of that immediately when I saw the pics of the tumbleweeds. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #19
I vaguely remember something like that... tumbleweeds were aliens? Demovictory9 Jan 2020 #20
https://dai.ly/x5zrcb2 CentralMass Jan 2020 #28
The weather channel featured this story... nuts!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #21
Was the car abandoned? Or were the occupants... eaten?! Beartracks Jan 2020 #24
Save the Miracle Grow for the hemp plants! Throck Jan 2020 #26
There was a great Outer Limit epsiode involving tumbleweeds: The Cry Of Silence CentralMass Jan 2020 #27
Thanks, will finish watching later. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #29
You are welcome. CentralMass Jan 2020 #34
the big question: why is the tumbleweed community so anxious? Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #30
Tumbleweeds are amazing! MineralMan Jan 2020 #31
Interesting story, MM. They had no choice but to..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #32
You probably have it right about how the tumbleweeds got in there. MineralMan Jan 2020 #33

nilram

(2,886 posts)
12. Yup and HILLARY brought them over
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:56 AM
Jan 2020

through a smuggling ring she ran out of very, very, VERY hidden basement.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
3. Exactly.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jan 2020

In fact, when I was growing up I never once heard anyone call it a tumbleweed.

It is a Russian thistle.

Just last week at a family gathering one of my younger cousins made a comment about tumbleweeds and I corrected him. Then I had to explain the Red/Russian wheat and how the Russian thistle came along for the ride.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
13. Kochia weed is actually more common
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:04 AM
Jan 2020

Asca tumbleweed than thistle out west. Some actually plant it for forage

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
7. Appears to be mostly a colloquial word with beginning references...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jan 2020

in the late 1800s that may refer to any weed-like plant that uproots and rolls with the wind. Being raised in the South, the first I heard the word was in the song "Tumbling Tumbleweeds" by the Sons of the Pioneers on country radio, probably in the '50s, and saw pictures of them on the TV Western shows like Gunsmoke. My first direct exposure was in Wyoming during some road jobs when I recall comparing it to walking into a briar patch.....

From: https://www.britannica.com/plant/tumbleweed

(snip)

Tumbleweed, plant that breaks away from its roots and is driven about by the wind as a light rolling mass, scattering seeds as it goes. Examples include pigweed (Amaranth retroflexus, a widespread weed in the western United States) and other amaranths, tumbling mustard, Russian thistle, the steppe plant Colutea arborea, and the grass Spinifex of Indonesian shores and Australian steppes.


Heck, tumbleweeds are really big movie stars!



KY......

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
16. Nice compilation!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:20 AM
Jan 2020

Surprised someone hasn't made a cheap-a$$ "horror-comedy" about a horde of man-eating tumbleweeds. (...Oh great, I jinxed it.)


KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
22. Perhaps someday, some brilliant shit will come up with a good use for them....
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:57 AM
Jan 2020

since there's an inexhaustible supply for free, as your video suggests. Large suck trucks with built-in mulchers could gather a few million of them a day.

I was thinking biofuels, food supplements, animal feed (it was used during the depression), fiber for making paper or cloth or ground up as compost.

KY............

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
23. Many similarities to Republicans...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 03:06 AM
Jan 2020

* refuse to slow down and face the truths of life on earth,
* often can be real pricks and obstructionists, and
* have little or no use to mankind.

KY..........

Seiad

(55 posts)
9. I once squared up against a tumbleweed....
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:46 AM
Jan 2020

.... thinking it would be funny. Not funny. They have a certain amount of weight behind them. plus the wind. Mine was only about 5 feet tall, and it kicked my a$$, lol. knocked me over. Downtown to boot. Never know where they're gonna come from.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
14. Some say they can be rigged to ward off Republicans and.....
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:04 AM
Jan 2020

after my limited exposure out west, I would say it's appropriate. Some Rethug starts spewing a line of Limbaugh bullshit, just toss him a basketball-size tumbleweed (I'm being humane)......

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
15. Those suckers used to whip through town and pile up in front of doors, along with heaps
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:14 AM
Jan 2020

of sand.

The smaller tumbleweeds, not that much smaller, would blow through town as I walked
home from school and plow right into my legs and scratch my legs all up.*

Tikki


*when I was in school girls weren’t allowed to wear pants to school.




PatrickforO

(14,569 posts)
19. Yeah, I thought of that immediately when I saw the pics of the tumbleweeds.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 02:37 AM
Jan 2020

Because you know, they aren't tumbleweeds.

Not really.

They are DEMONS.

From the Outer Limits!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
29. Thanks, will finish watching later.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

And, thank you for a new entertainment and news agglomerator site.......

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
30. the big question: why is the tumbleweed community so anxious?
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jan 2020

Need some upChuck Toady interviews and NYT analysis of the migrating tumbleweeds and how the Democrats are ignoring their plight.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
31. Tumbleweeds are amazing!
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jan 2020

After my enlistment in the USAF ended in 1969, I got a job with a major natural gas company in Southern California. While working there, as a warehouseman, I got sent to a remote natural gas distribution facility. I was there to deliver some industrial gas meters, and was told to clear away some tumbleweeds that had accumulated while I was there.

Well, when I arrived at the facility, which was a large open space surrounded by a 12' high chain link security fence, I found it almost completely full of tumbleweeds. There was room for me to drop off the big-ass gas meters, but after about thirty seconds, I realized that there was no way one guy with no tools could do anything about a 300-foot square enclosure full of tumbleweeds piled on top of each other.

So, I drove the truck back to the gas company headquarters and reported in about the tumbleweeds. "No way!," I said. "That's going to take a crew with chainsaws and about three dump trucks to deal with. My supervisor scoffed at my assessment and said, "Nah. You can do it." "Nope," I replied, suggesting that he climb in the truck and I'd take him up there for a look.

He agreed. Once he saw the situation, he said, "Well, you're right."

In the end, it cost the gas company over $5000 to clear that enclosure.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
32. Interesting story, MM. They had no choice but to.....
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jan 2020

restore working access and eliminate fire fuel load. I can see a huge mess if a fire got started from a tiny gas leak and your pump or valving station destroyed. Their insurance carrier would rake them over the coals.

I'm envisioning the tumbleweeds slowly building themselves a "ramp" outside the enclosure as they ran into the fence and after it reached the top of the fence, others just glided up the ramp and into the space. Does that sound right?

KY......

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
33. You probably have it right about how the tumbleweeds got in there.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure that's just how it happened.

My supervisor couldn't believe his eyes when he got there. I suppose some field crew had reported "some tumbleweeds" in the enclosure.

They're almost impossible to break down. While the stems are brittle, they're also very springy. If you stomp on a tumbleweed, it will recover almost completely. You can't feed them into a chipper, either. About the only way to get rid of them is to load them whole into a dump truck and haul them away. They burn well, but in the places they're common, fire hazards are high, so a fire isn't usually a good way to get rid of them. It certainly wouldn't have been good in a natural gas distribution facility.

You also don't dare to run over them with a vehicle. They will lodge themselves under the car or truck, and then friction will heat the dragging material up enough to catch it on fire.

They're pretty much indestructible, really, using any normal means. But, they weigh very little, even large ones, If you pick them up by the base, you can toss them in a dump truck easily. But, that dump truck will fill up quickly if there are lots of them, and they aren't heavy enough to self-compress and too springy to compress otherwise.

The easiest way to get rid of them is to haul them somewhere else, dump them, and let the wind carry them off, really.

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