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Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

 

Do you think this Iran attack will help Trump win again in 2020?

Historically, wars have boosted Presidential elections, especially Republicans. That's of course why Trump is doing this, and based on responses from Republicans and his supporters over this, they think this is awesome.

Will this be enough to push him over the edge? I seriously cannot handle another 5 years of this.

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Reply Do you think this Iran attack will help Trump win again in 2020? (Original post)
OliverQ Jan 2020 OP
dhill926 Jan 2020 #1
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #3
Turbineguy Jan 2020 #27
Sneederbunk Jan 2020 #4
Takket Jan 2020 #5
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #12
bdamomma Jan 2020 #19
John Fante Jan 2020 #20
pangaia Jan 2020 #33
RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #41
vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #6
Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #7
cilla4progress Jan 2020 #8
lunasun Jan 2020 #9
John Fante Jan 2020 #10
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #13
pangaia Jan 2020 #34
braddy Jan 2020 #11
rzemanfl Jan 2020 #14
Polly Hennessey Jan 2020 #15
dewsgirl Jan 2020 #16
DinahMoeHum Jan 2020 #17
bronxiteforever Jan 2020 #18
Xolodno Jan 2020 #21
mopinko Jan 2020 #22
Cosmocat Jan 2020 #32
bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #23
Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #24
vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #25
Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #28
vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #29
Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #31
kurtcagle Jan 2020 #36
Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #38
Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #26
onecaliberal Jan 2020 #30
kurtcagle Jan 2020 #35
ooky Jan 2020 #37
TomSlick Jan 2020 #39
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #40

Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

1. yes....

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

2. I don't want to jump to conclusions because this hasn't played out yet but I SAY NO friggin way. nt

 

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:24 PM

3. No. He'll screw it up.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

27. Ding-ding!

We have a winner.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

4. How many American lives will this cost?

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

5. If Iran retaliates, yes

If they retaliate and give drumpf an excuse for all out war, he will be re-elected.

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Response to Takket (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

12. The American people whether right or left do not want a war with Iran. Period. He will not

 

be re-elected and this is another reason as to why.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

19. This will

push Americans into the streets, we do not want war. This POS is a fucking bully, and he will place blame on someone else.

No one will help us, we don't have freaking allies any more. Plus they have NO diplomacy strategy.

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Response to Takket (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

20. The American people are not going to get behind

Trump on this one. He's the idiot who escalated tensions with Iran in the first place.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

33. The American people are not going to get behind Trump on this one...

Well, the same american people who despise trump won;t, and the american people who love him will...

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Response to Takket (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:49 AM

41. A lot of alt righters voted for him because he promised essentially isolationism

 

They claim to be offended by his associating with guys like Bolton and others from the Bush era.

He should lose them if they are honest about their beliefs, though I suppose he may gain back some neo-cons.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

6. This isnt 9/11

This was totally unprecedented and also very very stupid. Fear isnt gonna work unless nukes start flying

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

7. I'm sure he hopes so.

It's what he accused Obama of thinking about doing before his reelection.

Also, who's going to care about impeachment if we have a hot war going.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

8. He"s unleashing

hell.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

9. Imo yes

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

10. If Trump goes to war

he'll get crushed like McCain in 2008. Maybe worse. After the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, this country has no stomach for war.

I think Trump will lose decisively to Biden anyway, but an increase in hostilities with Iran would ensure his defeat.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

13. Yes this! nt

 

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Response to John Fante (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

34. Who is "this country?"



The sane or the insane??

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:30 PM

11. We have zero idea how this will play out, good, bad, or meaningless.

 

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

14. If it were not for Republicans we would not be in Iraq.

Just sayin'.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

15. No.

It seems a little too convenient.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

16. No.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

17. NO.

n/t

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

18. Nope.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

21. The Gulf of Tonkin...

...was bullshit.

But it worked because "we were attacked".

Bush had plenty of good will due to 9/11....his Iraq war tanked his popularity, the economy tanked it ever further than thought possible.

When the Marine Barracks were attacked in Lebanon, Reagan realized we would get caught up in a civil war that would bleed us, so he got us the hell out of it. It was a good decision.

This shit won't help him, except with his base....witch he already had. I'd bet even Bolton thinks this was a bad idea.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

22. i dunno. some of the deplorables think he is the peace president.

i shit you not.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

32. They will turn on a dime

Cause there heartstone is reaction to the evil liberals ...

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

23. No.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

24. Pretty much clinches it

Trump wins with an election, or without one.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

25. Based on what?

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

28. Seven simple steps

1) Start a war in the Middle East.

2) Provoke them into attacking U.S. targets, especially civilian.

3) Create chaos in U.S., so that Trump can denounce people calling for his impeachment as “traitors”

4) Incite mob violence against Trump critics/media/Democrats/foreigners

5) Declare martial law.

6) Cancel elections, or simply disrupt vote counting in Blue states/cities.

7) Civil war, or dictatorship, or both.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

29. If any of that happens it ends in civil conflict

End of the story. Putin finally gets his wet dream. US in ruins. No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:03 PM

31. Putin needs a puppet in the U.S.

to keeps the country in his camp.

No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship

It seems to me that the U.S. military just bowed to Trump, and will continue to do so no matter what crimes they are asked to commit.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:21 PM

36. I'm not sure they did

I get a sense that this may have bypassed the joint chiefs.

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Response to kurtcagle (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:23 PM

38. Soldiers follow orders

no matter how criminal.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

26. No...war is not popular when you have been at it for 20 years

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:59 PM

30. IMO this was really fucking stupid. There are ALOT of soft targets

Dumpco isn’t going to like the retaliation. And there WILL BE retaliation. When Iran chooses.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

35. Nope

There's no American causus belli here, and frankly its rather embarrassingly obvious that this was done at Trump's behest (and likely bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff). Moreover, a war with Iran will give the Iranians an excuse to put a stranglehold on the Straits of Hormuz, which will send oil prices skyrocketing. Most Europeans do not support the US sanctions on Iran to begin with, but they're really not going to be happy with a pitched battle in the gulf.

What's more, with the US occupied in the Middle East, it draws troops out of NATO, which gives Putin a chance to invade the Baltic States, complete its takeover of the Ukraine and at a minimum re-establish the old USSR borders. It gives China an opportunity to flex its muscles in aid of its ally, Iran, and likely will result in the reoccupation of Taiwan. Finally, in the confusion, all of the other dominos, such as North Korea invading South Korea, will begin to fall as well. This will all happen quickly, within months.

Happy 2020!

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:22 PM

37. Sure. As soon as he says how he's going to pay for the trillions it would cost.

Probably would have been better to leave the nuclear agreement in place. Everything has escalated ever since he broke it.

If nothing else he will be the most destructive president ever.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:26 PM

39. More importantly at this point, Trump thinks so.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Jan 3, 2020, 02:50 AM

40. The Republicans will support him 100%.

Fat Donnie's approval among Repugs has never gotten below 90%. Most of the time it's been 98%. This will solidify his base, too, because it reinforces the image he's been creating of a "strong leader."

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