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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:23 PM Jan 2020

Do you think this Iran attack will help Trump win again in 2020?

Historically, wars have boosted Presidential elections, especially Republicans. That's of course why Trump is doing this, and based on responses from Republicans and his supporters over this, they think this is awesome.

Will this be enough to push him over the edge? I seriously cannot handle another 5 years of this.

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Do you think this Iran attack will help Trump win again in 2020? (Original Post) OliverQ Jan 2020 OP
yes.... dhill926 Jan 2020 #1
I don't want to jump to conclusions because this hasn't played out yet but I SAY NO friggin way. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #2
No. He'll screw it up. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #3
Ding-ding! Turbineguy Jan 2020 #27
How many American lives will this cost? Sneederbunk Jan 2020 #4
If Iran retaliates, yes Takket Jan 2020 #5
The American people whether right or left do not want a war with Iran. Period. He will not UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #12
This will bdamomma Jan 2020 #19
The American people are not going to get behind John Fante Jan 2020 #20
The American people are not going to get behind Trump on this one... pangaia Jan 2020 #33
A lot of alt righters voted for him because he promised essentially isolationism RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #41
This isnt 9/11 vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #6
I'm sure he hopes so. Liberal In Texas Jan 2020 #7
He"s unleashing cilla4progress Jan 2020 #8
Imo yes lunasun Jan 2020 #9
If Trump goes to war John Fante Jan 2020 #10
Yes this! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #13
Who is "this country?" pangaia Jan 2020 #34
We have zero idea how this will play out, good, bad, or meaningless. braddy Jan 2020 #11
If it were not for Republicans we would not be in Iraq. rzemanfl Jan 2020 #14
No. Polly Hennessey Jan 2020 #15
No. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #16
NO. DinahMoeHum Jan 2020 #17
Nope. bronxiteforever Jan 2020 #18
The Gulf of Tonkin... Xolodno Jan 2020 #21
i dunno. some of the deplorables think he is the peace president. mopinko Jan 2020 #22
They will turn on a dime Cosmocat Jan 2020 #32
No. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #23
Pretty much clinches it Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #24
Based on what? vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #25
Seven simple steps Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #28
If any of that happens it ends in civil conflict vercetti2021 Jan 2020 #29
Putin needs a puppet in the U.S. Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #31
I'm not sure they did kurtcagle Jan 2020 #36
Soldiers follow orders Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #38
No...war is not popular when you have been at it for 20 years Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #26
IMO this was really fucking stupid. There are ALOT of soft targets onecaliberal Jan 2020 #30
Nope kurtcagle Jan 2020 #35
Sure. As soon as he says how he's going to pay for the trillions it would cost. ooky Jan 2020 #37
More importantly at this point, Trump thinks so. TomSlick Jan 2020 #39
The Republicans will support him 100%. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #40

Takket

(21,528 posts)
5. If Iran retaliates, yes
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jan 2020

If they retaliate and give drumpf an excuse for all out war, he will be re-elected.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
12. The American people whether right or left do not want a war with Iran. Period. He will not
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:31 PM
Jan 2020

be re-elected and this is another reason as to why.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
19. This will
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jan 2020

push Americans into the streets, we do not want war. This POS is a fucking bully, and he will place blame on someone else.

No one will help us, we don't have freaking allies any more. Plus they have NO diplomacy strategy.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
20. The American people are not going to get behind
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020

Trump on this one. He's the idiot who escalated tensions with Iran in the first place.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
33. The American people are not going to get behind Trump on this one...
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:10 AM
Jan 2020

Well, the same american people who despise trump won;t, and the american people who love him will...

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
41. A lot of alt righters voted for him because he promised essentially isolationism
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 04:49 AM
Jan 2020

They claim to be offended by his associating with guys like Bolton and others from the Bush era.

He should lose them if they are honest about their beliefs, though I suppose he may gain back some neo-cons.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
6. This isnt 9/11
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:25 PM
Jan 2020

This was totally unprecedented and also very very stupid. Fear isnt gonna work unless nukes start flying

Liberal In Texas

(13,531 posts)
7. I'm sure he hopes so.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:26 PM
Jan 2020

It's what he accused Obama of thinking about doing before his reelection.

Also, who's going to care about impeachment if we have a hot war going.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
10. If Trump goes to war
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020

he'll get crushed like McCain in 2008. Maybe worse. After the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, this country has no stomach for war.

I think Trump will lose decisively to Biden anyway, but an increase in hostilities with Iran would ensure his defeat.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
21. The Gulf of Tonkin...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jan 2020

...was bullshit.

But it worked because "we were attacked".

Bush had plenty of good will due to 9/11....his Iraq war tanked his popularity, the economy tanked it ever further than thought possible.

When the Marine Barracks were attacked in Lebanon, Reagan realized we would get caught up in a civil war that would bleed us, so he got us the hell out of it. It was a good decision.

This shit won't help him, except with his base....witch he already had. I'd bet even Bolton thinks this was a bad idea.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,454 posts)
28. Seven simple steps
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jan 2020

1) Start a war in the Middle East.

2) Provoke them into attacking U.S. targets, especially civilian.

3) Create chaos in U.S., so that Trump can denounce people calling for his impeachment as “traitors”

4) Incite mob violence against Trump critics/media/Democrats/foreigners

5) Declare martial law.

6) Cancel elections, or simply disrupt vote counting in Blue states/cities.

7) Civil war, or dictatorship, or both.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
29. If any of that happens it ends in civil conflict
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:59 PM
Jan 2020

End of the story. Putin finally gets his wet dream. US in ruins. No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship

Miguelito Loveless

(4,454 posts)
31. Putin needs a puppet in the U.S.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

to keeps the country in his camp.

No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship

It seems to me that the U.S. military just bowed to Trump, and will continue to do so no matter what crimes they are asked to commit.

onecaliberal

(32,777 posts)
30. IMO this was really fucking stupid. There are ALOT of soft targets
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:59 PM
Jan 2020

Dumpco isn’t going to like the retaliation. And there WILL BE retaliation. When Iran chooses.

kurtcagle

(1,601 posts)
35. Nope
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jan 2020

There's no American causus belli here, and frankly its rather embarrassingly obvious that this was done at Trump's behest (and likely bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff). Moreover, a war with Iran will give the Iranians an excuse to put a stranglehold on the Straits of Hormuz, which will send oil prices skyrocketing. Most Europeans do not support the US sanctions on Iran to begin with, but they're really not going to be happy with a pitched battle in the gulf.

What's more, with the US occupied in the Middle East, it draws troops out of NATO, which gives Putin a chance to invade the Baltic States, complete its takeover of the Ukraine and at a minimum re-establish the old USSR borders. It gives China an opportunity to flex its muscles in aid of its ally, Iran, and likely will result in the reoccupation of Taiwan. Finally, in the confusion, all of the other dominos, such as North Korea invading South Korea, will begin to fall as well. This will all happen quickly, within months.

Happy 2020!

ooky

(8,908 posts)
37. Sure. As soon as he says how he's going to pay for the trillions it would cost.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:22 AM
Jan 2020

Probably would have been better to leave the nuclear agreement in place. Everything has escalated ever since he broke it.

If nothing else he will be the most destructive president ever.

40. The Republicans will support him 100%.
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 03:50 AM
Jan 2020

Fat Donnie's approval among Repugs has never gotten below 90%. Most of the time it's been 98%. This will solidify his base, too, because it reinforces the image he's been creating of a "strong leader."

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