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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think this Iran attack will help Trump win again in 2020?
Historically, wars have boosted Presidential elections, especially Republicans. That's of course why Trump is doing this, and based on responses from Republicans and his supporters over this, they think this is awesome.
Will this be enough to push him over the edge? I seriously cannot handle another 5 years of this.
dhill926
(16,314 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)Turbineguy
(37,291 posts)We have a winner.
Sneederbunk
(14,278 posts)Takket
(21,528 posts)If they retaliate and give drumpf an excuse for all out war, he will be re-elected.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)be re-elected and this is another reason as to why.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)push Americans into the streets, we do not want war. This POS is a fucking bully, and he will place blame on someone else.
No one will help us, we don't have freaking allies any more. Plus they have NO diplomacy strategy.
John Fante
(3,479 posts)Trump on this one. He's the idiot who escalated tensions with Iran in the first place.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Well, the same american people who despise trump won;t, and the american people who love him will...
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)They claim to be offended by his associating with guys like Bolton and others from the Bush era.
He should lose them if they are honest about their beliefs, though I suppose he may gain back some neo-cons.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)This was totally unprecedented and also very very stupid. Fear isnt gonna work unless nukes start flying
Liberal In Texas
(13,531 posts)It's what he accused Obama of thinking about doing before his reelection.
Also, who's going to care about impeachment if we have a hot war going.
cilla4progress
(24,717 posts)hell.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)he'll get crushed like McCain in 2008. Maybe worse. After the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, this country has no stomach for war.
I think Trump will lose decisively to Biden anyway, but an increase in hostilities with Iran would ensure his defeat.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)The sane or the insane??
braddy
(3,585 posts)rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)Just sayin'.
Polly Hennessey
(6,787 posts)It seems a little too convenient.
DinahMoeHum
(21,774 posts)n/t
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Xolodno
(6,384 posts)...was bullshit.
But it worked because "we were attacked".
Bush had plenty of good will due to 9/11....his Iraq war tanked his popularity, the economy tanked it ever further than thought possible.
When the Marine Barracks were attacked in Lebanon, Reagan realized we would get caught up in a civil war that would bleed us, so he got us the hell out of it. It was a good decision.
This shit won't help him, except with his base....witch he already had. I'd bet even Bolton thinks this was a bad idea.
mopinko
(69,990 posts)i shit you not.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)Cause there heartstone is reaction to the evil liberals ...
bearsfootball516
(6,373 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,454 posts)Trump wins with an election, or without one.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,454 posts)1) Start a war in the Middle East.
2) Provoke them into attacking U.S. targets, especially civilian.
3) Create chaos in U.S., so that Trump can denounce people calling for his impeachment as traitors
4) Incite mob violence against Trump critics/media/Democrats/foreigners
5) Declare martial law.
6) Cancel elections, or simply disrupt vote counting in Blue states/cities.
7) Civil war, or dictatorship, or both.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)End of the story. Putin finally gets his wet dream. US in ruins. No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship
Miguelito Loveless
(4,454 posts)to keeps the country in his camp.
No one will bow to a Trump dictatorship
It seems to me that the U.S. military just bowed to Trump, and will continue to do so no matter what crimes they are asked to commit.
kurtcagle
(1,601 posts)I get a sense that this may have bypassed the joint chiefs.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,454 posts)no matter how criminal.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Dumpco isnt going to like the retaliation. And there WILL BE retaliation. When Iran chooses.
kurtcagle
(1,601 posts)There's no American causus belli here, and frankly its rather embarrassingly obvious that this was done at Trump's behest (and likely bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff). Moreover, a war with Iran will give the Iranians an excuse to put a stranglehold on the Straits of Hormuz, which will send oil prices skyrocketing. Most Europeans do not support the US sanctions on Iran to begin with, but they're really not going to be happy with a pitched battle in the gulf.
What's more, with the US occupied in the Middle East, it draws troops out of NATO, which gives Putin a chance to invade the Baltic States, complete its takeover of the Ukraine and at a minimum re-establish the old USSR borders. It gives China an opportunity to flex its muscles in aid of its ally, Iran, and likely will result in the reoccupation of Taiwan. Finally, in the confusion, all of the other dominos, such as North Korea invading South Korea, will begin to fall as well. This will all happen quickly, within months.
Happy 2020!
ooky
(8,908 posts)Probably would have been better to leave the nuclear agreement in place. Everything has escalated ever since he broke it.
If nothing else he will be the most destructive president ever.
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,564 posts)Fat Donnie's approval among Repugs has never gotten below 90%. Most of the time it's been 98%. This will solidify his base, too, because it reinforces the image he's been creating of a "strong leader."