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Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:28 AM

Do I have this right? Trump canceled our deal with Iran and is now trying to start a war w/Iran.

Trump was installed as POTUS by Putin.
Republicans knew about the Russian help then and now are actively trying to keep the facts
of the Russian/Trump Campaign treachery covered up. See Bill Barr, Mitch McConnell, Paul
Ryan, Mike Pence, Kevin McCarthy, Sean Hannity, Devin Nunes, and so on.
Trump pulled us out of a very good treaty with Iran because "the black guy" got it done.
Trump has now assassinated 2 Iranian leaders after talking to Vlad Putin and the Russian
Foreign Minister. This was after bombing a faction in Iraq that is loyal to Iran.
Trump is now trying to start a war with Iran to deflect from his impeachment and his up
coming trial in the senate.
Trump's mental state is declining by the day.
Trump wants to use a nuclear weapon in Iran.

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Reply Do I have this right? Trump canceled our deal with Iran and is now trying to start a war w/Iran. (Original post)
Botany Jan 2020 OP
treestar Jan 2020 #1
Botany Jan 2020 #2
CousinIT Jan 2020 #3
Arkansas Granny Jan 2020 #4
scarytomcat Jan 2020 #11
KPN Jan 2020 #9
duforsure Jan 2020 #5
Botany Jan 2020 #6
Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #7
scarytomcat Jan 2020 #12
duforsure Jan 2020 #8
sarge43 Jan 2020 #10
bullwinkle428 Jan 2020 #13
cstanleytech Jan 2020 #14
Kid Berwyn Jan 2020 #15
patphil Jan 2020 #16
smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #17
Botany Jan 2020 #18
smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #19
Botany Jan 2020 #20

Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:30 AM

1. any Deplorable who argues about Iran

the first thing to point out is that Drumpf canceled the deal.

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Response to treestar (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:39 AM

2. And that deal was wonderful.

In one of the 1st lines in it it said Iran will have any nuclear weapons to the
means to produce them.

The man who helped to write that deal is Ernie Moniz and he is one of the very best in the world about understanding
the issues. And if he isn't the best tin the world then the # of people who are as good or better is a very short list.

B.S. Physics Boston College (University ?)
PhD Physics Stanford
Professor of Physics M.I.T. including nuclear physics
Chair Physics Dept. M.I.T.
30 + years of working on nuclear non proliferation and reduction in nuclear weapons world wide


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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:42 AM

3. This is all about being a he-man chest beater.

That's all he's got: bluster, bullying, bullshit. And he has the US military industrial complex to back him up now so he's playing war games with everyone else's lives.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 09:51 AM

4. And the fact that the agreement was an Obama accomplishment.

His personal grudge against Obama has been the impetus for many of Trump's decisions.

One of the biggest threats we face as a nation is Trump's ego.

As Hillary warned us, "A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons."

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:39 AM

11. yes he will kill us all for a grudge

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:59 AM

9. Yup, and bullies are always nothing but inadequate feeling

cowards who need to compensate for their poor sense of self-esteem to feel better about themselves. This one just happens to have a monstrously pitiful esteem that fuels a gargantuanly sociopathic ego.

I may have misused and mixed up some of the terminology. Iím not a psychologist or psychiatrist, just trained in the school of life. But I know what I mean, and meant what I know. 😊

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:08 AM

5. Is Putin behind all this

To allow nuclear systems building and testing escalation ? All for North Korea, Iran , and Russia?

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Response to duforsure (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:15 AM

6. Not sure but N. Korea got a huge jump in their long range missile technology when they started ...

Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:05 AM - Edit history (1)

... getting rockets from the old Soviet production facility in the Ukraine. For Russia to "be strong"
Putin sees causing confusion, fighting, and just plan rat fucking with other country's interests as
the way to get it done. (My guess)

What is known is that Trump bombed the pro Iranian faction in Iran 1 day after talking to his boss,
Vlad P., on the phone and 1 week after he had Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov in the White House.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:27 AM

7. Yes...Shorty Putin is in on this

It ups the price of Russian oil despite the fact that we should be moving to renewables so Australia doesn't burn away.

It forces Iran into a closer alliance with Russia. Please shorty uncle Putin protect us from the orange monster.

It encourages all Shi'a Muslims to look at Russia as their friend.

Just remember all the American filthy rich capitalist kings like the Koch bros, Wal Mart heirs, Bezos, Zucherbergs and Gates support and enable Traitor Trump and his Slovenian Sex Worker. Trump and the nude first lady are their chosen represenative.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:42 AM

12. dump is easily manipulated

putin is definitely pulling his strings

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 10:59 AM

8. I think we will learn very soon,

Trumps going after the Pentagon officials who have exposed he lied about eminent threats, and those Recent Pentagon officials who resigned , and refused to take part in this illegal act backed up by lies are also being threatened not to speak out. It'll showed intent he knew this was illegal to do, and did it anyway, and again abused his powers lying to the American people to justify this strike . This is already backfiring on him and Putin.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:23 AM

10. Yeah, you have right.

"Some men want to see the world burn."

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 11:43 AM

13. Why was the newly-retired Mark Meadows hanging out at Mar-A-Loco at the very point

Chump made the decision to pull the trigger on the assassination?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:20 PM

14. Trump has been trying to instigate a war with Iran for awhile.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:27 PM

15. Superpower to Superstupid happened fast.

Trumputin genius.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:32 PM

16. It's evident how easily Trump is played by Putin.

Russia and Iran are strategic allies, and Russia has come out very critical of Trump's actions.
Russia will continue to supply defensive weapons to Iran.
And yet Trump thinks Putin is his friend.
The reality of the situation is that Putin doesn't care what happens to Iran as long as the United States is damaged in the process...both militarily and politically.
Putin's goal is to wreck our country, and he will play nice with Trump as long as he believes it will help further that goal.
If he decides it would cause more havoc to abandon Trump, he will do so.
A war with Iran would further divide our country and make the 2020 election even more contentious. An election where Trump loses by a narrow margin has the potential to cause tremendous unrest in our country, especially if it is fanned by Russia.
A war with Iran could be very beneficial for Putin. He can watch the United States continue to self destruct as the fool in the Oval Office leads us over the cliff.

I do use the word "lead" very loosely here. He never leads, he just expects to be obeyed.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:47 PM

17. I had a feeling that was his intent when he pulled out of the treaty to begin with.

I knew he was itching to get us into a war with them. Then he goes of half-cocked without congressional approval and commits an act that will all but insure it, just to distract from his impeachment woes and to make himself look like a "strongman" to his base and his dictator buddies. He has got to go before this gets any worse.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:55 PM

18. Just "internet rumor stuff" now but Trump might have called the Iraqi P.M. in order "to set up a...

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... hit" on Soleimani. My question is did Putin order Trump to do the hit?


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Response to Botany (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 01:09 PM

19. Probably at least put a bug in his ear, which is why he didn't clear anything with congress.

He went off half-cocked and acted like a mafia hitman. He is a danger to the world. We had better hope that this doesn't get nuclear. You know he is just itching to drop the big one on somebody.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 01:49 PM

20. Trump doesn't understand the most basic things about the world

He didn't know the difference between the Kurds and Iran's Quds force or
that the Baltic states and the Balkan states are not the same.





With all the pressure he is under with his impeachment and up coming senate trial and his easily
seen mental decline to him, Trump, dropping a nuclear weapon might make sense. I hope the
senior military around have sense enough to stop him.

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