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Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:08 PM

Don't want to be a soggy mop here BUT Romney and Super-pacs pulling out of serveral states

Doesn't that make anyone wonder what the HELL is going on?



I mean today we see ads --bascially money being pulled from PA, OH, MI, and WI. The election is basically 6 weeks--2 months away today and Romney and the GOP super-Pacs supposely raise all this money.


It does make one who likes to think wonder. Does this have anything to do with the cyber ransom? IS this Ransom the reason why Romney is "Taking a Vacation" from the Campaign. Remember Monday how the press pull was excused than called back to cover Romney driving a boat?


Believe it or not I do want to see Obama win but this makes this person who likes to think wondering what is going on.

SORRY FOR MIS-TYPING

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Reply Don't want to be a soggy mop here BUT Romney and Super-pacs pulling out of serveral states (Original post)
diabeticman Sep 2012 OP
Matt_in_STL Sep 2012 #1
diabeticman Sep 2012 #15
Matt_in_STL Sep 2012 #36
diabeticman Sep 2012 #44
Raine1967 Sep 2012 #50
DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2012 #2
diabeticman Sep 2012 #19
Habibi Sep 2012 #3
cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #4
Codeine Sep 2012 #5
diabeticman Sep 2012 #20
Codeine Sep 2012 #25
LanternWaste Sep 2012 #46
Codeine Sep 2012 #48
Whisp Sep 2012 #63
Blue Meany Sep 2012 #6
diabeticman Sep 2012 #11
immoderate Sep 2012 #7
WCGreen Sep 2012 #26
Chorophyll Sep 2012 #37
treestar Sep 2012 #56
FLyellowdog Sep 2012 #8
diabeticman Sep 2012 #22
Cali_Democrat Sep 2012 #9
Jennicut Sep 2012 #10
CTyankee Sep 2012 #21
cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #27
CTyankee Sep 2012 #42
Robbins Sep 2012 #33
Jennicut Sep 2012 #45
NightWatcher Sep 2012 #12
CreekDog Sep 2012 #13
Raine1967 Sep 2012 #51
progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #53
blue neen Sep 2012 #59
CreekDog Sep 2012 #57
drm604 Sep 2012 #14
gkhouston Sep 2012 #16
catbyte Sep 2012 #17
CTyankee Sep 2012 #31
regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #41
magical thyme Sep 2012 #52
CTyankee Sep 2012 #54
magical thyme Sep 2012 #60
CTyankee Sep 2012 #61
Fresh_Start Sep 2012 #18
bkkyosemite Sep 2012 #23
WCGreen Sep 2012 #29
aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #34
PearliePoo2 Sep 2012 #24
PuppyBismark Sep 2012 #28
get the red out Sep 2012 #30
Hutzpa Sep 2012 #32
regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #35
hifiguy Sep 2012 #38
PearliePoo2 Sep 2012 #43
hifiguy Sep 2012 #47
budkin Sep 2012 #39
RandySF Sep 2012 #40
Shagman Sep 2012 #49
cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #55
ananda Sep 2012 #58
slackmaster Sep 2012 #62
northoftheborder Sep 2012 #64

Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:10 PM

1. The election is two months away. nt

 

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:15 PM

15. YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #15)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

36. Hey, no problems from me

 

Just wanted to make sure you knew and had a chance to correct - that's why I didn't editorialize on it.

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #36)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:26 PM

44. Thanks. It just amazing how many people here can't wait to make a person look so small

and stupid on this board. I know people who have left this site because of this type of rudiness.

I couldn't correct this fast enough! NOW I'm being treated like a troll! I see why my wife won't post on this site anymore.

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #44)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:34 PM

50. Relax. Seriously.

You being so defensive isn't really helping either.

peace,
Raine

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:10 PM

2. "The election is basically 6 months away today."

??????????????????????

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:16 PM

19. YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:10 PM

3. Hi, there. Um, what?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:10 PM

4. Fun Fact: we call it tinfoil, but it's actually aluminum

But either way it helps keep your head warm in damp places, like under a bridge.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:11 PM

5. I'm not sure what elections you're talking about,

but the election being dealt with here is a wee bit closer than six months.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

20. YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

25. Angry and illiterate is no way to go through life, son. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #25)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:28 PM

46. Almost as bad as critical and petulant.

"Angry and illiterate is no way to go through life..."

Almost as bad as critical and petulant.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #46)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:29 PM

48. YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE critical and petulant is what wanted to type

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Response to diabeticman (Reply #20)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:08 PM

63. lol. it's a tough crowd here I guess you know

 



and a whole lot of spelling nazi's and word police too

I'll probably get alerted for warning you.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:12 PM

6. Super-pacs and the campaign abandoning the same states in a coordinated way?

 

Why that would illegal. I'm sure that couldn't be true. <sarcasm>

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Response to Blue Meany (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:13 PM

11. I'm not saying illegal! I'm saying something is up!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:12 PM

7. The election is 2 months away, but aside from that...

 

I find Romney's pull-outs curious.

--imm

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Response to immoderate (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

26. George Romney should have pulled out 50 some years ago....

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #26)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

37. I need that gif of Orson Welles slow-clapping.

But this will have to do

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #26)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:48 PM

56. Yes! Though it was 64 years ago!

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:12 PM

8. Actually the election is only 2 months away.

I think you're confused...on several different levels.

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Response to FLyellowdog (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

22. YEAH SORRY THE FUCK I MISTYPE 6 weeks away 2 months is what wanted to type

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:13 PM

9. The election is six months away?

 

They moved the election?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:13 PM

10. Romney's polling #'s are most likely not going to improve in Michigan and Penn.

But the Gop Pacs have not pulled out from Ohio or Wisconsin yet. Romney has a ton of money but I doubt he will spend it where he thinks he can't win. PA and Mich have gone blue for awhile now anyway. Ohio #'s are not looking that great for him either. I don't believe in any conspiracies, it is just simple campaign logic. Spend money where it counts.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

21. But that gets even curiouser...what state is looking more encouraging than before?

has a blue state started to turn red? I'm not getting this...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #21)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:18 PM

27. The idea is to spend more in, say, Florida

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #27)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:25 PM

42. Hmm, do you think the federal judges decision had anything to do with it?

on edit: I see that there were two FL decisions that present some handwriting on the wall for voter suppression laws. And some decisions that are looming...

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/30/776491/courts-reject-gop-voter-suppression-overreach/

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

33. Um

Karl Rove is pulling ads from Ohio.Romney Is keeping ads In Ohio.

Superpacs are also pulling ads from Michigan and Pa.

Unknown If superpacs will continue In Wi

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Response to Robbins (Reply #33)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:27 PM

45. Thanks for the info.

I guess it is worse then I thought. I do wonder if they will pull from Wisconsin soon.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:14 PM

12. why waste money on ads in states where you've fallen way behind?

Save the money and spend it on states that are close and still in play.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:14 PM

13. Tom, did you take another Ambien?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:37 PM

51. CORRECTION:

it was half an Ambien.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #51)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:40 PM

53. mistook it for a viagra. n/t

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #53)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:54 PM

59. You actually did make me laugh out loud!

I actually know a dude who took a mistook a Zoloft (the brand name Zoloft is a little blue pill, also) for a Viagra.

Um, he was quite disappointed!

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #51)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:49 PM

57. how do you *accidentally* take *half* an Ambien?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:15 PM

14. Do you have a link to something to back this up?

How do you know they're pulling out?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:15 PM

16. It tells me that the Republicans don't actually have unlimited amounts of cash.

Probably saving what they've got for October.

Interesting that this decision seems to coincide with a rather lackluster RNC.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:15 PM

17. I think they know Romney is toast so they're gonna try to save the House

That's what makes the most sense to me.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:19 PM

31. if so, that's small comfort if it works...we get Obama and an intransigent congress again...

feels like a treadmill...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #31)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:24 PM

41. Except, by 2016...

...Obama will have likely had the chance to fill at least two more SCOTUS seats...at least one of which will be from the "gang of four" (probably Scalia and/or Thomas).

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #31)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:37 PM

52. which means we double down and push harder

 

to win a landslide and get broad enough coattails to hold or increase the senate and increase or even win back the house.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #52)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:46 PM

54. how do we know if the coattails theory is going to work in some states/districts?

Is there some metric that is used?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #54)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:00 PM

60. we need to push harder at all levels

 

not rely on just coattails. But a landslide won't hurt.

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #60)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:06 PM

61. We have a good blue state but I still worry about Linda McMahon.

Our Dem candidate has a slight lead over her but she has a boatload of money to spend. It's just hard for me to imagine Connecticut voters want wrestling lady as our U.S. Senator.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:16 PM

18. as elections get closer, campaigns always pull out of areas where they can't win

to double up on others which they might be able to win

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

23. My comment is what are they up to

Maybe they are saving the millions for the last month or the last two weeks where air time is to be blocked and locked so much that Obama cannot get any air time. Hope not!

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:18 PM

29. No they will double down on the house and senate....

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #23)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

34. Or the right voting machne software is now in place

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:17 PM

24. There's something happening, I can feel it

They say Mittens is studying for the debates. WTF? They're in October! He's laying low for some reason.
Then pulling their ads in ALL THESE STATES? And the "dip-shit duos" HOME states, no less!
WTF?
But there's all the fucking dirty money they have..I just don't get it.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:18 PM

28. Interesting, these "independent" PACs All stop in 4 States at Once along with Mit...

Hmmmmmm. I thought the PACs were not supposed to be working in conjunction with the Candidate. This must just be a coincidence everyone stopped broadcasting adds in these states all in the same day.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:19 PM

30. Focusing down-ticket?

They may have decided to focus down-ticket in a lot of places. There are so many PAC ads running to try to oust our blue dog Democratic Congressman here in Kentucky's 6th that I can't stand to leave the sound on the TV during commercial breaks.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

32. I'm trying to use my head just as you asked

but when it comes to this guy and his queen, the devil in me wishes for all of the above, couldn't happen to a more nicer guy.

I want him so far away from that White House that typing it here alone does me no justice.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:20 PM

35. I don't believe it, either...

This would essentially constitute conceding an election two months before it happens. No way would a campaign do so this early, even if they were looking at a potential landslide; to do so in a race thai remains practically tied is madness. The only way this makes sense is if it is either a temporary pullback before returning with a new set of ads, or they've got a new SuperPAC that's going to handle all the ads in those states for them.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:21 PM

38. This tells me one thing and one thing only.

 

Rmoney's internal polling numbers are very bad and trending worse in at least some of those states. Every national campaign makes its decisions regarding allocation of funds on the basis of internal numbers, not public polls in the media.

This is a definite retreat, and it looks like a retreat designed to stave off total disaster rather than for strategic reasons.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #38)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:25 PM

43. what is "Internal Polling"? Is it what a campaign does separately?

Do they pay for a private company to do polling for them?

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #43)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:28 PM

47. Yup. Campaigns have their own internal pollsters

 

and have for quite some time. I remember reading that in 1980 Carter's pollster - Pat Caddell IIRC - told him on the weekend before the election that he was going to get beaten and the numbers were spot on.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:23 PM

39. Thanks for the concern

Duly noted.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:23 PM

40. Ohio? Are you sure?

I don't see anything on the innertubes about pulling out of Ohio. The next question I have is whether they are just pulling the ads or canceling air time as well? Campaigns need to have those spots reserved through the election by now.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:33 PM

49. why waste money?

if you've already bought the election, why waste money on advertising?

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:48 PM

55. Maybe they're just funneling the funds directly to Romney's Swiss bank account???

Oops, did I say that out loud?? They're bringing in $100 Million per month but they're spending less than the Obama campaign. They knew Mitt would lose from the get go, so I'm starting to think this was all another money-making scheme for Romney and his boys.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:51 PM

58. Maybe they're putting all that money into voter suppression ...

... and GOTV for their side.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:07 PM

62. It means either they think they have those states in the bag, OR that they're lost causes...

 

...in which case the money will be redirected to swing states where they believe they still have a chance.

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Response to diabeticman (Original post)

Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:10 PM

64. Taking advertising out because those states are going to be stolen?

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