Incels are beginning to be considered a defined terrorism threat.

[alwaysinasnit]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/involuntary-celibates-are-an-emerging-domestic-terrorism-threat-texas-warns-of-an-incel-rebellion/

Misogynistic men who identify as part of the “Involuntary Celibate” movement are domestic terrorism threats, according to a new report.

The Texas Department of Public Safety included the warning in their 2020, “Texas Domestic Terrorism Threat Assessment” (PDF).

“Although not a new movement, Involuntary Celibates (Incels) are an emerging domestic terrorism threat as current adherents demonstrate marked acts or threats of violence in furtherance of their social grievance,” the report noted. “Once viewed as a criminal threat by many law enforcement authorities, Incels are now seen as a growing domestic terrorism concern due to the ideological nature of recent Incel attacks internationally, nationwide, and in Texas.”

“What begins as a personal grievance due to perceived rejection by women may morph into allegiance to, and attempts to further, an Incel Rebellion. The result has thrust the Incel movement into the realm of domestic terrorism,” the report explained.

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[brush]

1. Fu_k them, and I wish someone would.

[robbob]

10. I wouldn't wish that on anyone!

😁

[DBoon]

29. Their right hand might

nt

[Tech]

2. Of you are misogynistic, I think you are voluntarily celibate.

[PatSeg]

48. Exactly

If women are consistently rejecting you, then it sounds like the problem is you, not them. "I don't understand why all those mean, nasty women hate me!"

[Sugar Smack]

3. GOOD.

They need to be treated as such.

[Snackshack]

4. This is bizarre.

[smirkymonkey]

5. They would never think that they have themselves to blame for

their situation. Like most right-wingers, it is always someone eles's fault for their predicament.

[Traildogbob]

8. Obama's faught

That designation means no guns, no flying right? A good thing. But........White Christians slaughtering people just can't quit achieve the title of terrorists, right? Seems to me the entire GOP are terrorist threatening the whole world. Other countries should ban GOP from entering countries.

[SCVDem]

6. There used to be a thing called,

PROSTITUTION!!!

Legalize it and let them get laid!

[katusha]

27. it is legal in Nevada!

a trip to vegas with a pit stop at the bunny ranch.
whats wrong with these people definitely something fishy when the underlying gripe is easily cured.

[PatSeg]

49. Then we'll hear:

"Why do I have to pay for sex when Jim and Bill get it for free? Not fair!"

[smirkymonkey]

32. It doesn't matter.

They can easily all find sex workers. They just want to hate women for not loving them. And why would any woman in her right mind love a misogynistic, hateful troll? These people are sick and broken. Only they can help themselves. If they want to.

[uponit7771]

75. +1, they all sound entitled

[boston bean]

37. Umm. You have a very limited view of what makes them incels.

They believe that any woman they want should submit. They blame women for their social and economic status. It is more than just getting laid. It is a movement of hate of women. .

[Codeine]

59. Their problem is unrelated to sex.

Allowing them to frame the issue as such is naive.

[SCVDem]

68. If they had sex and still were terrorists?

They are out of excuses.

Lock them up!

Oh yeah, Reagan released the nut jobs!

Don't be insulting pal!

[Iggo]

71. There used to be a thing called...

...”be the kind of guy women want to be with.”

Oh wait. There still is.

[SCVDem]

73. I know,

Shall we ignore Americas history?

It would be good to own up to most of it.

You are familiar with our history, right?

[Iggo]

80. They hate women.

Take one fucking second and imagine how a guy like that treats a prostitute.

[Sophia_Of_PlanetX]

79. I think the problem is, a lot of them are also Nazis.

Incels heavily intersect with the alt-right, 4chan, gamergate, and "semi-ironic" Nazis. They have an extreme level of hatred for women, minorities, and the LGBT community (especially trans people). It's not that they can't "get laid." It's that they isolate themselves from society due to their anti-social personalities.

They don't really want women. They just want to hurt them.

[kimbutgar]

7. Either have easy women or hunky guys into one of their meetings and they won't be incel anymore

[ancianita]

9. Women have always been the safest target of grievance politics. And PoC, of course.

[Bob Loblaw]

11. Who owes them intercourse?

Send them a bottle of hand lotion, a box of Kleenex and a wallet sized photo of Vonkers. It works for their president.

[TexasBushwhacker]

15. Why don't they just hire a hooker? N/t

[Demobrat]

26. Because women owe them sex

And not just any women. The women they refer to as "Stacys". Young, beautiful head cheerleader types only need apply.

[Kittycow]

54. And "Stacy" only goes for "Chad", the BMOC

Big Man on Campus type. I think I was reading all their drivel on 4chan when their incel hero Elliot Rodger killed a bunch of Stacys and Chads, among others, during a killing spree near a college campus, I think, in 2014.

Then the incels got mad because their hate site had been exposed and the general public was streaming in to read what they wrote. Besides their values coming from the sewer, they were just a bunch of crybabies.

[PatrickforO]

19. What's Vonkers?

[VOX]

24. Ivanka. n/t

[Grokenstein]

25. Vonkers

Oh, that's effin' PERFECT.

[Traildogbob]

12. Save women's lives

Subsidies INCELS like We do for oil companies, and they can buy European nude models like other wealthy white loser men. Who knows maybe one day they could achieve First Lady status and do amazing things for our nation. That could Be Best for everyone.

[Vdizzle]

13. Quirky, nerdy, and shy turned into frustrated rage.

Those guys need to lighten up. They need to break away from their groups and venture out and be brave and meet new people. They need to not be so easily offended. They need to be themselves and appreciate other people and recognize proper attention and respond in an appropriate manner. I seriously think many of these Incels are just too quick to give up and blame an outside force for their frustration. It is quite sad.

[smirkymonkey]

33. +1000

It is so pathetic how entitled these people are. They need to take some responsibility for their lives and make changes for the better. You are right. They are sad. And it's because they refuse to do anything to make their own situation better. They would rather point the finger at others - women - and give into hatred than lift a finger to improve their own lives.

[Vdizzle]

35. Agreed!

A good mentor in the social department would probably do a lot of good for them. Perhaps that might be a good charitable project... Mentoring Incels in social atmospheres.

[Dagstead Bumwood]

72. Or they can just start out slowly.

For example, maybe buy a candle that smells like a vagina and see how that goes. Baby steps.

[Vdizzle]

74. In the words of the Great George Takei....

Oh my...

[Codeine]

60. It's adolescent frustration

meeting up with a reinforcement loop. Next think you know they’re in their twenties and still thinking like awkward 14 year olds, but now full of hate and bile.

[JDC]

14. Who would guess that angry losers are not appealing

What a truly weird thing this is. Self entitled jerkoffs. Literally I guess.

[BigmanPigman]

16. I like this line...

"...recent Incel attacks internationally, nationwide, and in Texas.” I guess Texas's incels aren't included in with the "international" incels?

[GaYellowDawg]

17. I have no pity for them at all.

I’ve had very few relationships and I’m not into casual sex (and frankly, am not attractive enough to have regular opportunity at it). I have wanted a marriage and children more than anything in my life. Neither has happened, and the latter never will. I get so desperately lonely so often. I did a brutal self-inventory midway through last year, and have really tried to improve myself physically, emotionally, and improve how I treat people. There are no guarantees, but the more I improve myself, the better I can be for someone, and surely wanting to be better for her, instead of expecting her to be here for my needs, has to make my odds of a healthy relationship better.

I never fell into the trap of blaming women. I never considered violence against women or anyone else just because I was lonely. I have been through every kind of rejection you can imagine, from painfully kind to brutally cruel, and it’s felt very personal at times. I’ve run the gamut from disappointment to gut-wrenching heartbreak. But blaming all women? Feeling as if I was being denied something I was owed? Violence? No to all of those. This is why I have no sympathy for them: because under the same circumstances, I didn’t turn misogynistic or violent.

[VOX]

28. You're doing everything right, don't lose heart.

Relationships are strange— you can try, try, try, and seemingly get nowhere. But then, when you least expect it, *boom!* you meet someone. Part of it is luck, naturally, but the biggest winning aspect is being the best version of yourself. You’re to be commended for doing the “self-inventory,” and making whatever adjustments you deemed necessary.

Rejection is tough, and it cuts deeply, but remember that *everyone* who has taken a chance at love has, at some point (or many points) been turned down, broken up with, separated, divorced, widowed, etc. It comes with the territory, but we keep trying, because the good that comes from a healthy, loving relationship has no equal on this planet.

Hang in there, and know that the odds favor the prepared— that’s you!

[GaYellowDawg]

41. Thank you

I appreciate the encouragement.

[vercetti2021]

31. I fully agree

Never fell into that trap as hard as my friend tried to mgtow me for a long time. Not anyone's fault that I'm a very shy person. Sex and relationships terrify me

[GaYellowDawg]

42. I'm very glad

That you didn’t fall into that. I’ve told myself that it’s OK to despair, so long as I don’t give into it. I think the same thing could apply to fear.

[vercetti2021]

50. It gets lonely

But that's my own doing. Social anxiety and living up to many standards are near impossible. I'm just too vanilla of a person

[GaYellowDawg]

64. I understand.

You’re probably a lot more interesting than you think.

[vercetti2021]

70. I am probably the most vanilla individual I know

Excitement and me do not go together. I watch Letterkenny and drink coffee

[smirkymonkey]

34. Thank you for your honest post.

I am also alone, although by choice. I am sure you are making too much of your looks, since we all can find someone who can find us attractive and I am sure you can as well. I feel so heartbroken by your post and I would so love you to find someone. You sound like a wonderful person and I am sure that someday you will find what you are looking for.

Are you doing anything to find a date/partner? I know it isn't an easy thing to do, but it seems like you really have the desire to find somebody. I would think any woman would be lucky to have someone like you.

[GaYellowDawg]

43. Thank you

I really appreciate your kindness, and your sympathy helps. I live in a small town and teach in an even smaller one, so opportunities to meet someone are rare. I’m on a dating website and am hoping that will at least result in a date here or there. In the meantime, I think the best I know how to do is to keep working on myself and hope that what I have to offer is appealing.

[smirkymonkey]

58. I wish you all the best.

Some woman will be very lucky to have you. Good luck!

[GaYellowDawg]

65. I really appreciate it.

Maybe someday. I sure hope so.

[Hortensis]

38. There are so many in your predicament these days.

Good, decent people who want companions, wives, homes, children. What they grew up expecting their lives to be before the supply of available women wanting the same things shrunk.

I loved reading that you are working on yourself, YellowDawg. I hope you're also working on getting yourself out there routinely and a lot. Where is the new industry of life coaches to help it happen?

Participating in almost anything makes everyone more interesting to talk to, and also leads quiet people to talk more to others they have that in common with. Volunteer work that involves meeting others, taking classes in almost anything but including educational, hobbies that get people out among others. Political groups, like your local party, will include a basic sift for that compatibility of course.

Btw, as a personal bias, if you aren't already, I'd recommend becoming an acceptable dancer as a basic competence. Dancing while cooking or whatever just for fun is happy-making. But just being known as the kind of men who occasionally dances for enjoyment instead of heading for the back wall says good things. In my experience, the music coming on can also often create a sudden oversupply of available women, an opportunity not just to temporarily connect with one but for men who are nice and giving, gentlemanly, to show themselves to all.

[GaYellowDawg]

44. I do wish that I lived in a large city

But I’m locked into where I am and there aren’t a lot of activities beyond church, which I’m not interested in. I’m actually quite a good dancer and have a lot of confidence in that. But I’m still waiting for this oversupply you speak of! But thank you for the kind advice.

[ck4829]

52. I had a long term relationship and it was special to me, then nothing... after years of being single

I realized I didn't need one, my greatest developments to who I am and my greatest achievements, came when I am alone.

Relationships aren't for everyone. I don't think I will ever "find someone" and at this point, I don't care anymore. And now I'm not asking, I'm not dating, I'm not looking, I'm not interested... and I've reached a state of acceptance. Because of it, people sometimes assume I am taken, married even, but I say "no" and they are taken back.

All I can say is: Don't be better for some other person, be better for you. You'll find as time goes by, even if you don't find someone, you'll still have excellent company.

[malaise]

63. What an honest post

[PatrickforO]

18. Good. Because they are.

When a bunch of people with a personal grievance become a group that incites one another to violent acts, then they need to be considered a domestic terror threat.

[SKKY]

20. Who knew not getting any could mess you up like that??

[JHB]

21. Here ya go guys. Take care of it yourself and stop blaming other people.

[58Sunliner]

22. There have always been incel terrorists. Now they can find each other. Unfortunately.

[Ohioboy]

23. Someone needs to tell the Incels

that a loser with a propensity toward violence isn't usually what women are looking for. Nature makes it that way so idiots have less chance of reproducing.

[ariadne0614]

62. They don't care what women want/need. That's the point.

The whole idea is that women should submit to being sub-human chattel. Recognizing women as their equals spoils everything. This ideology is the foundation of the Republican war on women’s right to have agency over our own bodies, or have a role in decision-making, or express perspectives that deviate from the authoritarian, patriarchal Master Narrative. It’s about domination, power and control, i.e., the opposite of love.

[vercetti2021]

30. Sad bunch

Like I'm a virgin. But never blamed women or felt I was owed sex or love. I blame myself for being shy and quiet mainly. Thankfully I'm sure incels are the minority of these types of lonely men. Good they are being treated as so. A potential domestic terrorist group.

[GaYellowDawg]

45. If it's what you want

Then I hope someone who is just right for you finds you.

[vercetti2021]

47. I think so

Waiting for that right person.

[Marthe48]

53. I'm surprised my husband and I got together

We were both shy, although we both overcame it in social situations. I wasn't looking for the love of my life the day I met him, and we didn't see each other again for months, and then we both denied we were in the market. Then we ended up being together for almost 46 years. So don't stop looking. Just have fun with your life.

[brush]

36. Wonder how gay and incels get along?

[getagrip_already]

77. I'm sure most incels have grindr on their phones....

There's nothing wrong with that. But in the incel case, it increases the self hate and thus the hate of others. They can't accept they are voluntarily gay. So they focus on how wimin hurt them.

They don't view gay sex as sex. They don't acknowledge they engage in it.

[mopinko]

39. these poor bastards are being targeted. their minds have been fucked.

the psyops that brought us here hit these fools hard. they are just the sort of people that fall into these cults.

vanilla isis. the whole goal of bannon, CA, et al, was to take the tools developed to find terrorist recruiting online, and turn it on this country.
welcome to ground zero of the war for the return of sanity.

[MrsCheaplaugh]

40. They aren't the only misogynists

All of these suggestions that someone should provide incels with hookers make me just as nauseous as the incels themselves. Since when are women livestock? And since when is any man entitled to sex?

What should we do with these geeks? I say tie them to posts and flog them until their eyes are hanging out. Then they'll have something to cry and snivel about.

[ck4829]

57. +1, this feeds into the notion they "need" sex, that anyone needs it

What they need to do is stop hanging around toxic people on these incel forums and stop buying into the artificial concept that sex makes a man "complete".

[Tree-Hugger]

67. +1

Reading such replies is nauseating.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

46. There was a recent article in the Washington Post

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about an incel who committed a murder suicide at a yoga studio. On his blog he lamented not being able to find a steady girlfriend.

Relationships can be complicated and often awkward when one is young but from my experience they've never been a reason for violence.

[ansible]

51. Anyone with a brain could've predicted this shit with the normalization of hypergamy

Not to mention hookup apps like Tinder becoming the norm now. Expect it to get much worse in the future, there have been actual rebellions in China's past history of angry single men who couldn't get laid.

[Marthe48]

55. My generation calls them rapists

So these violent men think if they see a woman and they get excited, they should just be able to order any female to droptheir pants? That's not even sex, it is some sort of soulless act of self-gratification.

We aren't living in a porn movie. I have never been anywhere where random sex broke out. Unless we break down all social and other traditions, a rapist society isn't going to work. With open carry, out and out mayhem is next.

[ck4829]

61. I think that's how *they* think the world works

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That every other man in the world can go up to any woman and say "Sex. Now." and they have intercourse right there... and they say to themselves "Why can't we do that?"

This isn't the way the world works, this isn't how sex works, but if you read the manifesto by Elliot Rodgers, it becomes apparent this is how they see the world.

The Internet is great and all, but these incel forums where this is all originating from shows the darker applications of it... that you can very easily form communities that isolate themselves from everyone else except like-minded people, that you can easily seek and reproduce information that agrees with you and nothing else, and you can kick people out of those communities if they dissent in any way, you can be anonymous and say things you wouldn't normally say and can get past your own filters so things that would otherwise be passing thoughts or anxieties can instead become your ideology... if this is one's way of getting information and the way of making connections with people, then you're going to develop some rather bizarre belief systems.

[Marthe48]

69. Manly men ask

Your comments help me understand that there are people who have ideas and look for reinforcement of the ideas. They don't look for arguments against the idea, they look for things that back them up, even if the idea is flawed or dangerous.

[ck4829]

56. Hopefully this lead to social/psych studies of them, incels have a systemic perception problem

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The premise of the incel movement is that they are "involuntarily celibate" because of biology, or "Stacys", or "more attractive men", some massive conspiracy against them, whatever, right?

* A lot of these incels are young; teenagers and young adults, and they think their sex life is already done with, already doomed. That's the first problem right there. Already signing their life away. The young adult brain hasn't finished developing here.

* Of course not all incels are young. What drives older men to the same thing?

* Incels didn't form in a vacuum, and I'm not going to say "why don't women just give them sex?" because that is indeed ridiculous. What I am going to blame is our culture itself, we're starting to get away from it, but there are pockets and areas that believe sex is a milestone, that you aren't a real man until you've lost your virginity, that incels aren't "complete" until they've had sex, of course, this is a socially constructed milestone. Sex is great and everything, but the world didn't spin the other direction when I woke up the next morning, I had regular issues to attend to. I wasn't better because of sex. I wasn't more of a man because of sex. It's fun. It's entertaining. But it's not the end-all, be-all. Any notion that a man becomes a stud or superman just because they've lost their virginity starts as a media fabrication and everyone is OK with it because it's based on societal expectations. For me, it was back to being awkward and nervous around people the very next day.

* They're complaining about being "celibate", but more people around the whole world are having less sex, waiting longer before having sex the first time, some are not even having sex at all. It's an issue because they are choosing to make it an issue. Choose something else I'd say.

[pwb]

66. I liked it when we didn't give recognition to this crap.

Publicly anyway.

[brokephibroke]

76. They will always have their precious guns

To comfort them.

[Mopar151]

78. Wanna meet a Paleo-Incel?

Stop by a gun rights rally. Best as I can figure, they are mostly scairt of the wimmins. It's the rationale for their paranoia about registration and fear of a woman's "power" to take Precious.