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Did Pelosi know about the Parnas bombshell and hold the Articles to give it time to explode? (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2020 OP
This is exactly my line of thinking. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #1
Speaker Pelosi knows many things PJMcK Jan 2020 #2
It sure seems that way. ok_cpu Jan 2020 #3
Thank God we have the brains on our side. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #34
It sure is explosive mcar Jan 2020 #4
I don't know Cillizza but The Pod Save America guys say he's an idiot. dem4decades Jan 2020 #8
He's a sleazebag. Was on board with Trump, with Joe & Mika (from their hot mic recording). Hope he OnDoutside Jan 2020 #25
Doubt Cilliza'a Trumper, but his stick is the same as DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #38
I didn't say he was a Trumper. On the hot mic between Trump, OnDoutside Jan 2020 #44
It was excellent timing as far as the bullshit CNN pulled dewsgirl Jan 2020 #35
Brilliant! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #5
I'm 99% certain. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #6
I'm never afraid and I'm rarely surprised." Pelosi Hortensis Jan 2020 #7
That quote should be cross-stitched on a framed sampler Hekate Jan 2020 #11
:) Something for every aspirant to power to hang on the wall. Hortensis Jan 2020 #15
For real Sugarcoated Jan 2020 #30
A bombshell dropping the day before the vote? What a coincidence! tinrobot Jan 2020 #9
Hmmm StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #10
Zap! rofl Hekate Jan 2020 #12
New portrait leaked JHB Jan 2020 #32
lol....the timing was epic.😂 dewsgirl Jan 2020 #36
According to me, Leghorn21 Jan 2020 #13
She's one of the Gang of Eight, right? Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #14
That was my guess over the weekend Midnightwalk Jan 2020 #16
Barr's action today is pretty coinkydink. nt Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #17
Barr's Spin Today Was Inaccurate DallasNE Jan 2020 #21
Barr Seems to forget he is only there for a little while True Blue American Jan 2020 #27
Could there still be hope Trump is impeached after this? Quackers Jan 2020 #18
Trump is already Impeached. Hugin Jan 2020 #24
I understand. Quackers Jan 2020 #46
Could be. She might know a lot of things. Flaleftist Jan 2020 #19
A Week Ago When Nancy Announced She Was Sending The Impeachment To The Senate This Week DallasNE Jan 2020 #20
One of probably many anyway. :) Hortensis Jan 2020 #22
+100000 Pachamama Jan 2020 #23
Nancy knows all MFM008 Jan 2020 #26
I think Speaker Pelosi has a lot more information than just this with Parnas, duforsure Jan 2020 #28
This right here padah513 Jan 2020 #29
Just read up on the Parnas documents. WOW underpants Jan 2020 #31
We love Nancy... kentuck Jan 2020 #33
Nancy is a freakin legend. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #37
No one is"mythologizing" Pelosi StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #40
And we shouldn't ... kentuck Jan 2020 #42
Parnas has signaled for weeks he had info he wanted to share DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #39
Of course, she did. Nancy doesn't play dice. ;) PubliusEnigma Jan 2020 #41
Could be. Could well be... MineralMan Jan 2020 #43
Of course. He was arrested October 10. pnwmom Jan 2020 #45
And not have him as witness was just brilliant! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #47

ok_cpu

(2,063 posts)
3. It sure seems that way.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jan 2020

She appears to be playing this perfectly. She has them so far over their skis defending tRump and the whole Ukraine affair.

mcar

(42,505 posts)
4. It sure is explosive
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jan 2020

All the pundits who have been slamming her (looking at you, Cillizza) should be a wee bit embarrassed right now.



Who am I kidding?

OnDoutside

(19,993 posts)
25. He's a sleazebag. Was on board with Trump, with Joe & Mika (from their hot mic recording). Hope he
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 05:29 AM
Jan 2020

has his comeuppance some day.

DeminPennswoods

(15,311 posts)
38. Doubt Cilliza'a Trumper, but his stick is the same as
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jan 2020

Dana Millbank and others who think their snark opinions are great analysis.

OnDoutside

(19,993 posts)
44. I didn't say he was a Trumper. On the hot mic between Trump,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jan 2020

Joe and Mika, Joe said that Cilizza was "on board". He's just a snakey amoral Bollix.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
35. It was excellent timing as far as the bullshit CNN pulled
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jan 2020

yesterday. Their chyron said, something about an impeachment fail and then, boom that story dropped on us like a nuke.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. :) Something for every aspirant to power to hang on the wall.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

I'm sure McConnell and McCarthy really hate it, but being the bad guys means a whole lot of people really don't like them and feel a need to stop them. And after all these decades of being a people collector, Pelosi's friends and connections, and theirs, and theirs, are practically everywhere.

Phoenix61

(17,040 posts)
14. She's one of the Gang of Eight, right?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jan 2020

So yes, I’m sure she has all types of information we will never even get a hint of.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
16. That was my guess over the weekend
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jan 2020

But I’m sure there were other considerations such as getting the trial over so democratic senators can campaign. And other reasons I can’t think of.

I’m sure she gets some things wrong, but I learned a while ago to wait a while before second guessing. The reasons seem to always come out and make sense in retrospect.

DallasNE

(7,405 posts)
21. Barr's Spin Today Was Inaccurate
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:58 AM
Jan 2020

He said that no presidential campaign can be investigated again without his signoff.

First off, Rosenstein did not open an investigation on the Trump campaign. Rosenstein opened a criminal investigation that happened to involve the Trump campaign. Huge difference.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
18. Could there still be hope Trump is impeached after this?
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020

Seems like a lot of these documents blow the hell out of the gray area the Republicans were hiding in.

Hugin

(33,277 posts)
24. Trump is already Impeached.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 04:32 AM
Jan 2020

The Senate trial is to determine if Trump should be removed from office based on that Impeachment

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
46. I understand.
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jan 2020

Guess I was just using generic terms. What I meant was, would it be enough to sway them to convict? But from the looks of it, they’re not going to let any of this new stuff in. Now the Parnas guy seems to be going public on everything. He just publicly said he was there at the direction of Trump and Giuliani to get dirt on Biden and work out a deal.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
19. Could be. She might know a lot of things.
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:41 PM
Jan 2020

Give her position, I'd think any information about Trump and his criminal dealings that comes across anyone who give a shit about their country would find its way to her.

DallasNE

(7,405 posts)
20. A Week Ago When Nancy Announced She Was Sending The Impeachment To The Senate This Week
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:53 AM
Jan 2020

I asked, what did Nancy know that we don't know. Today we got our answer.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. One of probably many anyway. :)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 01:02 AM
Jan 2020

When the gates broke open on Trump-Russia, the press became believers and got on it, leakers became emboldened, etc, new information has been coming out week after week.

I'm sure Trump-Ukraine is just the top of one iceberg, the focus of the impeachment but hardly Trump's only criminal activities while in office, much less his entire criminal career.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
28. I think Speaker Pelosi has a lot more information than just this with Parnas,
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 06:29 AM
Jan 2020

And is letting Moscow Mitch to walk into a trap, and if they refuse to convict she'll have them where she wants them , and exposes a lot more info they don't know she has on trump and them. She's letting them get deeper and deeper then showing their intent , cover up, and many crimes they are involved in, and will have them all exposed . Has trump been illegally eavesdropping on a lot of people , and they have the goods against him, and money bribes , and money laundering going on?

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
33. We love Nancy...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jan 2020

...but I think we have to be careful not to mythologize to the level of Robert Mueller.

I do believe she has the patience of a saint.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
40. No one is"mythologizing" Pelosi
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jan 2020

MShe's being given props for things she's actually done/is doing that we can see the results of in real time.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
42. And we shouldn't ...
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jan 2020

Nobody mythologized Robert Mueller either.

She deserves all the props she is getting.

DeminPennswoods

(15,311 posts)
39. Parnas has signaled for weeks he had info he wanted to share
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jan 2020

and has been doing so for at least the past week with the House Intell Cmte. Schiff surely kept Pelosi apprised of what was revealed in the phone records, emails and other documents. Given this, it wouldn't surprise me that Pelosi timed up sending the articles to give not just Parnas' stuff, but all the other reporting that's happened since the impeachment vote to come out.

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