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Whats really fascinating is
THE UKRAINE ESCAPADE WAS THE BIG PLAN! I want to explore that for a bit. Feeling some serious worry about Joe Bidens electoral prowess, Trump concocted a plan to try to make Joe look bad; to undermine his credibility; to create a fog of suspicion around him; to smear his good name. And what Trump came up with was lets make it look like he abused his power as VP. THAT was the big smear. Make it look like Joe overstepped his bounds.
Now I want you to contemplate that. After 40 years in public service, and a bottomless pit of money resources, the GOP had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE on Joe Biden. Nada. Zilch. Bubkus. Stone cold ZERO. And so they were left with having to fabricate something. And what they chose to fabricateand what they knew would receive equal coverage in the media as Trumps many many scandals (see e.g., Hillary Clintons emails)was a loose, nondescript allegation of abuse of power, tinged with nepotism.
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The GOP was counting on the cooperation of the media to whip up righteous indignation and outrage over the notion of Biden overstepping his bounds while he was VP, and I have no doubt that had the scheme worked, the media would have gladly obliged. The media undoubtedly would have jumped on the whiff of impropriety around Joes actions, while ignoring the first-of-its-kind rank nepotism of Ivanka, Jared, Jr. etc, and the many many things Trump has done to advance his and their personal interests. Its a sad state of our political journalism and discourse that false equivalencies and balance take the place of truth and facts, but even THAT is not what I want you to focus on.
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. what I want to highlight is the ABSURDITY of trying to extort a foreign nation with the help of
THAT GROUP OF WANNA BE LOSERS! International extortion is serious business. And they sent RUDY & HIS GOONS to do that? Seriously? I mean
. Thats just WILD. And whats wilder is that they got the whole team to sign off and participate in this IDIOTIC scheme. Pence, Pompeo, Perry, Barr, Nunez the list goes on and on. They all thought that using THOSE GUYS (Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman, Firstash, Toensing, DiGenova & Robert Hyde (for crying out loud)) to strong arm a country at war with Russia, using THAT scheme to try to frame, defame and malign a presidential candidate, was going to work, and that all those CLOWNS would pull it off without misstep or, more importantly, without implicating them? They seriously bought that?
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Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)the blame for meddling in the 2016 election and set up the Russian Game for 2020.
But Putin let trump get involved and he fucked it all up.
leftieNanner
(15,143 posts)Which is a top priority for Putin. Creating massive chaos in the US is just an added bonus.
TwilightZone
(25,473 posts)including members of Trump's own team who tried to talk him out of pursuing it.
It was literally fake news, which makes it all rather ironic.
malaise
(269,157 posts)''dig up dirt on the Bidens'' rather than ''manufacture dirt on the Bidens"
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Jim__
(14,083 posts)It sells advertising; and that's all they care about.
spanone
(135,859 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)today on MSNBC. The Republican elite are "standing their ground" while the volcano erupts. In the end, they will be looking for the rescue boats that never arrive.
leftieNanner
(15,143 posts)Stupid is as stupid does.
He's one pickle short of a Big Mac.
JudyM
(29,265 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)They conspired to force Yovanovitch out of office. That's a federal crime.
18 U.S. Code § 372. Conspiracy to impede or injure officerIf two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat, any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United States to leave the place, where his duties as an officer are required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.
She testified that she felt threatened.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)and foremost. Also, see: all the other felons in his orbit. If you will lie for him, you're in. There's clearly not enough people who will do that and risk jail time where he can be super picky about it.
I'm not convinced that Putin didn't help put these ideas in his head. Anything that hurts Ukraine helps him, and he's had some secret meetings with Trump. I do feel Putin has financial crime dirt on Trump. Real estate is rife with money laundering and Russians are known for it. See: Deutsche Bank.
Putin must be so goddamn happy at the moment. America looks completely corrupted. And so we are.
Where is America? I'm not sure I can see it now...