****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 2****

[BumRushDaShow]

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Sekulo done and Cippycup Cipillone back again

Lying and lying.

[elleng]

3. Oh CRAP!

[Walleye]

9. How many lies so far?

I hope some fact checker is counting.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. all of them. he's not rebutting Schiff; just making a speech

[dem4decades]

41. Cipollone is one of those crazy Barr Catholics I believe. Worked for Barr too

the cover up goes deep.

[C_U_L8R]

2. Sippy wants a do-over

So he thinks prosecuting Schiff is a smart idea. Proceed, numbnuts.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. Am guessing GYMSUIT handed him some talking points to read

[Hermit-The-Prog]

20. sounds like Jacketoff, just at lower volume and speed

[NewJeffCT]

8. That will work out as well as

prosecuting Clinton, Comey and McCabe has worked out so far

[Gidney N Cloyd]

4. When did Trump release and declassify the phone calls?

All I remember is a phony, abridged transcript.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

44. Glad you said that. All we got is Barr abridged version

of infamous July phone call with Zelenski right?

[Mossfern]

5. It's very difficult for him to hear says Cipollone

More lying - amazing.

Do you think that Trump would have come to the House depositions?

[blogslut]

7. These are not actual legal arguments from the defense

I have no training and I can see this

[nolabear]

11. Nope. They're attacking the opposition and playing to the haters in the public.

You can hear the FOX computers typing away at their spin on it.

[Mike 03]

12. Agree. It's mostly third-rate recycled Fox news propaganda.

[Peregrine Took]

10. But they were down in that horrible basement and kept all rethugs out!

Now that's a crime! lol

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Even though ALL the members of the committees

including 100+ GOP members, WERE allowed in yet they refused to go and then "staged" a circus side show on the steps going to the room... .

[ancianita]

48. EXACTLY.

[Mossfern]

13. What Constitional rights

is he talking about?

[Wednesdays]

15. Again, their defense is

look angry and pound the podium.

[NewJeffCT]

19. and I remember Devin Nunes

saying that about Democrats back in December - huge projection on his part.

[SamKnause]

23. You left out lie, just lie your ass off.

Show no morals or respect for anything.

Just lie.

They should be fined for intentionally lying.

I have watched all the hearings.

Lies are all they have or ever had.

They are vile.

[nolabear]

16. They are just like 45. Make an enemy for the minions. Attack him/her. Bully bully bully.

The Senators in that chamber have no illusions about any of this. This is for the 2020 voter because they know he'll get off.

I could scream.

[Mersky]

18. Well, Cippy is just gonna Gish gallop with one lie after another

Seems like he’s violating his lawyerly ethics pledge, and Bar license on national tv.

He rather alarmingly lied about the nature of the less-than-perfect phone call. That’s just one... and it’s a big one.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

29. lied about the basement and about witnesses, too

[Mersky]

37. Yep, I heard multiple.

Are some of the standard lies we’ve already heard, just repackaged that cause the argumentation to divert away from the real facts, and it is exhausting.

[lamp_shade]

21. He's adlibbing. He was caught off guard. No notes.

[Mossfern]

22. So far

what I see is that he's not arguing to the point of the resolution. Maybe he'll get to that.

[nolabear]

25. Don't bet on it. Smearing is all they've got.

[Walleye]

27. The more he lies

The higher his voice. He just jumped to an octave above high c.

[nolabear]

24. I hope somebody rebuts these stupid, personal attacks. It's disgusting.

[Mossfern]

26. What?

The House is afraid to make their case?
He's just throwing out words.

It's a "partisan impeachment" because of Mitch.

[BumRushDaShow]

28. Da fuq?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. wildly accuses Dems of trying to steal the election ...

PROJECTION on massive scale.

[Mersky]

30. Good grief, we'd be facing anarchy if the way tRump has been protected

By politicians and appointees carried over to courts regular Americans must use. There would be no justice for everyday folks harmed by bribery and extortion.

[H2O Man]

31. Pitiful.

I could have done better when I was in 7th grade.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. OMG the jackass is finally done.

[uponit7771]

55. +1, they're doing the FAUX News defense ... possibly ratings to high for them to get away with this

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Schumer has offered an amendment to the Rules

[ancianita]

35. Cipollone wants the Senate to think the House wants them to "make up for" what the House didn't do.

The Bigass Schiff Attack.

Words like "concocting" "lock the president out," AND "will Mr Schiff give documents?!" "we're still waiting for whistleblower documents!" "YOU"RE on trial, Senate! "think about it!" "its's common sense"


"if i showed up in court... my case is overwhelming, i need more evidence ... I'd be thrown out and that's what should happen here...
what are the stakes -- an election!" "A partisan impeachment they've delivered to you to support their election" "They're here to steal TWO elections -- remove Trump from the ballot! -- they just don't have the nerve to tell you that!"

"My point: it's long past time that we start this and end it so we can go have an election!"

Fuck that whiny slime Cshipollone.

[lapfog_1]

36. This is going to be a total shitshow of a farce

I have no hope that any Repukes will actually listen to this.

And Moscow Mitch is doing his best to make sure nobody else does either.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. so far, only Schiff has addressed the Articles and facts

[Mersky]

54. And because we can't see the seating,

We cannot see what they’re doing, or who is in the chamber. It is appalling.

[dweller]

63. watching on PBS

and they were saying it was interesting to see the looks on senators faces, some looking sleepy, Klobuchar intent, Romney taking notes.. how are they seeing this


✌🏼

[Mersky]

66. Not sure.

I think they must have runners going in and out with written notes, because I believe it’s the case that electronic devices aren’t allowed-in. Is arcane and stupid.

✌️

[Gidney N Cloyd]

38. Apparently it's outrageous to have an impeachment during an election year.

Where have I heard that argument before...

[jayfish]

43. It Outrageous For Anything To Happen In An Election Year.

...unless Republicans facilitate it.

[ancianita]

46. But not an assassination and tweets about "Obama wanting to start a war".

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Schumer's amendment is requesting the subpoena of documents/records

from McGahn, and anything related to the calls to Ukraine, etc.

Basically requesting ALL the documents that the House was unable to get.

[backtoblue]

50. TY

I completely zoned out and cant keep up.

This is a long amendment.

[BumRushDaShow]

51. The clerk is reading out everything they want

[BannonsLiver]

40. Let's stop calling it a trial. It is not a trial.

[SamKnause]

45. Shit show works for me.

Those evil liars have me wound up.

They should be fined for intentionally lying.

[uponit7771]

57. +1, if Red Don is not removed then we shouldn't call 2020 an election year either. Pelosi should

... go nuclear and demand a fair trial or she wont certify the election.

Cut the arm off of Thanos right now, there wont be a second chance if he snaps his fingers.

[Hortensis]

67. Too soon. Democratic senators have an absolute duty to participate

in a senate trial. Remember, we've also put the Republicans on trial. Let them hang themselves.
When and if our Democratic senators give up and announce the Republicans broke their solemn oaths and did not allow the senate to perform its constitutional duty, then I will.

[BannonsLiver]

69. None of that prevents it from being called something other than a trial.

[Hortensis]

71. Sure, it's already called a Democratic witch hunt.

Imo, that's an argument for continuing to call it the senate impeachment trial, but, hey, we can go to town. The standard here is mostly just don't bash Democrats.

[BannonsLiver]

74. That's the RW framing

I don’t know anyone who is even remotely objective calling it that. It’s not a trial. We’ll agree to disagree.

[Hortensis]

79. YES, that is what the RW is calling it. That's the point.

Their behavior in trashing this solemn proceeding is no template for me to follow. As our party leaders keep trying to impress.

You've taken offense, and I didn't mean that because I agree the Repubs aren't allowing a genuine trial. We knew they wouldn't. Just commenting on what we're trying to do here.

[live love laugh]

47. Sadly Fix (Fox) and Limbah are compounding these savvy lawyers' lies nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

59. As long as it stays in the echo chamber.

[SamKnause]

49. Smart move having all the requests read out loud.

Just shows how deep of a shit pile the truth is buried under.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

52. of course the Senate won't subpoena ...

If the Senate issued the subpoena Schumer calls for, the response by the WH would PROVE Article 2.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. ****15 MINUTE RECESS****

Will allow them to look at the amendment that Schumer just submitted too.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

56. good time to THANK YOU for these threads and stream links

[luvs2sing]

58. Agreed!!

So very much appreciated!

[BumRushDaShow]

60. You are welcome!

[IcyPeas]

64. just able to tune in now

is it safe to watch this shit show or am I just going to lose my mind?

[BumRushDaShow]

65. Only thing keeping me from throwing something at the TV

is because I am typing (with both hands).

[gademocrat7]

61. Thank you, BumRushDaShow!

Your efforts are appreciated.

[elleng]

62. Sen. Hirono on MSNBC.

[dweller]

68. details ?

✌🏼

[elleng]

70. Procedural matters 'pending,' as we see re: changes in mcconnell's plans.

[BumRushDaShow]

76. As I was refilling my humdifiers, CSPAN2 had a tweet up

about Collins' "concern" with Turtle's last minute changes to drop down to 2 days/24 hours and so Turtle apparently revised it again to go back to 3 days.

[BumRushDaShow]

72. ****BACK IN SESSION****

[BumRushDaShow]

73. DEBATE of Schumer's Amendment to the Rules - Schiff up first

for up to 1 hour.

[ancianita]

75. Schiff Kills it again -- Cipollone and Sekulow never addressed the Senate resolution!

[Mersky]

77. Schiff is up and responding to pResident's lawyers not

Arguing about the resolution at hand.

[malaise]

83. Schiff is destroying them

He really is a great lawyer

[Mersky]

88. He is sooooo good.

Taking them to task. Is excellence.

[BumRushDaShow]

78. YESSSSS!!!! SCHIFF!!! The WH lawyers have been arguing BOTH SIDES

"You can't go to court but then you have to go to court!!"

[ancianita]

81. Schiff Kills it! Bolton wants to come but will you let him!You can't be impartial & not want Bolton!

[Mersky]

80. "They've never claimed executive privilege."

Yes. Thank you, Adam Schiff!



He went on, my paraphrasing: Why? Because tRump would have to reveal his evidence of guilt!

[BumRushDaShow]

82. Schiff - they had go go out and find someone because "No reputable Const. lawyer will do that"

(in reference to Dershowitz )

[C_U_L8R]

84. Make them eat their lies.

Discredit these dishonest buttmunch Trump lawyers before the world

[Mersky]

85. "Do you want to ask Bolton why it was a drug deal?!"

[ancianita]

87. +1

[ancianita]

86. Adam kills it again! Outing Cipollone's LIE about the SCIF!!

[nolabear]

89. Ass-Backwards! Yaaaaas!!

[Karma13612]

90. OK, I'm just going to come and say it:

I ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Rep Adam Schiff.

Speaking the truth with such dignity and passion is just so cool!

[nolabear]

91. If you buy the GOP's case you have Kool-Aid poisoning.

Schiff is laying it down.

[BumRushDaShow]

92. Schiff should be in the Senate

(and I know California has so many amazing elected officials)

[meow2u3]

95. Do you mean Rep. Schiff?

Schumer is already in the Senate.

[BumRushDaShow]

97. Yes I fixed it - was trying to start the new thread right when I was posting that

New thread is up.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Schiff yielding time to Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)

To add to the Amendment debate.

[BumRushDaShow]

94. ****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 3**** UP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893290

[Mersky]

96. Shiff referring to pResident's lawyers attacking the prosecutors...

They don’t want to about the pResident’s guilt.

And further calls them on their “ass backwards” no evidence and witnesses for the trial.