MSNBC: Claire McCaskill surprised that "Susan" voted against allowing documents

[stopbush]

That would be Susan “Don’t Believe For A Fucking Second That She Won’t Vote With tRump 100% Of The Time” Collins, who McCaskill insisted on calling “Susan” all day today.

[guillaumeb]

1. Please.

Why is McCaskill even given a spot on these shows?

[renate]

5. idk... I'm finding her behind-the-scenes knowledge pretty interesting

What happens in what room, procedural stuff, etc.

[guillaumeb]

6. But if she is truly surprised about Collins,

what does that say about her political judgment?

[renate]

11. well, yeah, that

I wonder whether Collins either knows that the fix is in and she'll retain her seat, or she's being blackmailed or has been promised something and has just given up on getting reelected. I can't imagine why she keeps doing this Lucy-and-the-football thing without realizing she has become a walking talking joke.

And I can't imagine why anybody with a brain genuinely expects anything better from her. Hope, yes, we can't help that--but we all know she's going to pull a Flake every time she gets our hopes up.

[Hortensis]

12. Her prediction was that Collins, whose reelection is in danger,

would cynically and ostentatiously vote for all the things a principled senator should and then vote to acquit Trump. A repeat of Kavanaugh with McConnell's full approval in order to protect HIS majority power and a typical ploy any time a seat is in danger.

Instead, she's hanging her ass out with all the others who aren't up for reelection, undoubtedly McConnell's decision. They'll all hang together.

I hadn't noticed that some people had a problem with her, but just googled the usual reason and, yup. Oh, boy.

Look, the Republican base should be a big object lesson. They've cut off every information source that doesn't flatter their leaders, to the point that it's a wonder they're not poking out their left eyes in spite. Self-inflicted political insanity might as well be the real thing when no therapists are ever going to ride to the rescue.

[FarPoint]

16. She is just low balling her comments...

It doesn't matter...Claire is just not being blunt ...

[Rebl2]

13. I agree

I don’t understand her surprise about Susan though

[BannonsLiver]

20. Go watch the Young Turks. Plenty of choices if you don't like it.

[Kurt V.]

2. my ex senator simply is stuck in a past that never was.

[Sherman A1]

3. Yup

I agree

[Hortensis]

17. You missed what happened. That panel have no illusions

about what the Republicans have become. But this morning, with the time for each Republican senator to leap over a giant cliff arrived, the panelists had hope that even just a few would balk. This afternoon, they'd lost that spark of hope.

This election isn't about MfA, it's about saving Medicare. Social Security. ACA. Saving the clean air and water laws and fighting climate change. Civil rights, including women's. Children in cages. Eleven million still to be deported, brown citizens caught up in it. And on and on.

This election is not about advancing Sanders' vision but about stopping, or falling to, a far larger and more advanced RW authoritarian revolution.

“If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” David Frum

Strong conservatives came to realize they could no longer win democratically and that it would only get worse. This is what's happening.

[Kurt V.]

18. yeah. i don't watch that crap. There's been no good conservative commentary in about 100

years or so. with a single exception in douthat.

[Hortensis]

21. Douthat? :) Oh, come on. Sure you don't like him

because he's pushing Bernie Sanders at the left?

You do know that he's a social conservative, right, with sympathies he always hedges for populist antagonisms? Religious right, antigay, antiliberal, probably a number of anti-s it's not cool to admit to, that kind of thing? I wrote him off years ago as one of the many who were selling "clever" dystopian bashing of almost everything as intellectual insights. Selling is the word since there's always a reliable market for that.

But we take the Times, so I can't avoid him completely. Middle age now and too intelligent to just be one of the happy trumpsters a dumber Douthat would, or to admit who he's working to reelect while laundering it through verbose criticism. Make no mistake, though. Keeping power in Republican hands is what the NYT is paying him for and the main reason he writes about Sanders as flatteringly and frequently as he does.

[Kurt V.]

22. i can't disagree with this. but when he just does conservative dogma as a philosophy

he's a throw back.

[Hortensis]

23. Not the same thing, but I was just reminded that

back during the Nixon era a professor had us take a pencil like a machete to long political screeds and eliminate almost everything but key words, noun, key adjective, verb, object, that kind of thing. Lol, and what?!! when on one of them a famous "LW" intellectual he'd chosen, when stripped of obfuscation and hedging, turned out to be pushing dishonest Republican political arguments.

If I was sure I remembered right I'd name him, because the person I'm thinking of is still around selling his dystopian, anti-Democratic schtick as LW intellectualism.

Another day of Democrats speaking principle to the nation, while Republican senators are forced to sit and hear it all. Jennifer Rubin says a lot of Republican senators are willfully ignorant (just like our neighbors) and are probably hearing a lot of this evidence for the first time.

[riversedge]

4. I think those two had a good working relationship from what I have read. It is hard to

admit sometimes when colleagues go bonkers.

[trueblue2007]

7. Please let something happen to Susan "Don't Believe For A Fucking Second That She Won't Vote With t

SEND HER TO THE MOON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Susan “Don’t Believe For A Fucking Second That She Won’t Vote With Rump 100% Of The Time” Collins, who McCaskill insisted on calling “Susan”

[BumRushDaShow]

8. I think the "agreement" between Collins and Turtle

was that they wait to vote for whether to allow witnesses/subpoenas, until AFTER all the opening statements/questions.

So they would supposedly have one more shot to request this. Whether that is successful or not is a big question mark.

[spanone]

9. Get real Claire.

[calguy]

10. Susan received " assurances " from Midnight Mitch

[bdamomma]

14. oh okay

I guess a donation is in order for Sara Gideon, her opponent. Never trust these repig bastards.

[Wounded Bear]

15. Anybody who is surprised has not been paying attention...

Concern Troll Suzie flips and flops like a beached salmon.

[BannonsLiver]

19. I'm glad she did

It will hurt her in November and I want that nitwits seat in the worst way.