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Adam Schiff is kicking the president's team asses and (Original Post) MerryBlooms Jan 2020 OP
But it won't make any difference leftieNanner Jan 2020 #1
I know, but with any luck, the public is hearing the evidence MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #4
I certainly hope so Merry! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #8
WH counsel has either willfully lied or mistakenly lied in every statement. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #16
It's well past time leftieNanner Jan 2020 #26
public is stupid and asleep, or watching game of thrones... oh wait.... pangaia Jan 2020 #43
Who gives a rat ass what a crook like trump will say at this point? rockfordfile Jan 2020 #14
It makes a difference regardless of the outcome live love laugh Jan 2020 #45
And, here we continue with the republican sham of a trial... MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #2
the public probably aren't listening IcyPeas Jan 2020 #13
I know a lot of people who are watching, who aren't on the internet. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #20
He really is mcar Jan 2020 #3
Exactly. republicans and team trump come off as complicit traitors. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #5
I hope Moscow Mitch's blood pressure is skyrocketing. Talitha Jan 2020 #7
He is the worst mcar Jan 2020 #10
Truly a loathesome creature. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #34
Doesn't matter - people ain't buying it - jmg257 Jan 2020 #6
who's not buying what? maxsolomon Jan 2020 #9
A few people who were watching - but they may be slanted jmg257 Jan 2020 #17
so, like your Republican friends? maxsolomon Jan 2020 #18
Unfortunately no - that's the point - they aren't jmg257 Jan 2020 #19
Remember, 70% of the public want witnesses. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #21
Ah true - thanks for that!!! jmg257 Jan 2020 #30
Exactly! MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #31
How unfortunate. Hoping the folks I know who are watching MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #22
That would be great! I'm glad people ARE jmg257 Jan 2020 #28
They Vote fwvinson Jan 2020 #41
Team Trash are starting to sound like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail-- Ponietz Jan 2020 #11
Buwhahaha! MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #23
We're losing the battles in the trial, but winning the war in American living rooms. ancianita Jan 2020 #12
I couldn't be more proud of our House Managers. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #25
Again I walk in the park and this house was blasting audio from Adam Schiff rockfordfile Jan 2020 #15
For sure! MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #27
Hope he runs for President budkin Jan 2020 #24
I agree. I would do everything in my power to help get him elected. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #29
Schiff knows this isn't the time. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #33
There are no persuadable voters left out there at140 Jan 2020 #32
I disagree, there are persuadable voters left out there. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #35
Senators who lose probably make more money as lobbyists at140 Jan 2020 #36
That's all we need. Any vote he doesn't get is a good vote. calimary Jan 2020 #37
The people I talk to are warmfeet Jan 2020 #38
1/3 vote fwvinson Jan 2020 #42
It can work as Death by a Thousand Cuts to Donny Dimwit. fierywoman Jan 2020 #39
I turned the tv on and watched 45 seconds of one of Trump's lawyers and had to turn it off. All lies Pepsidog Jan 2020 #40
Adam "Kick Ass" Schiff NiteOwl1 Jan 2020 #44

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
1. But it won't make any difference
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jan 2020

The fix is already in. He will not be convicted and removed from office. And he will crow about "total exoneration" for ever. He will probably even pretend that he was not impeached.

Somehow, Moscow Mitch has corralled his caucus into one seething blob that will do as they are told. How did we get here?

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
4. I know, but with any luck, the public is hearing the evidence
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jan 2020

being introduced by our House Managers and the zero defense from the republicans and the president's bullshit show team. It's a kangaroo court for all to see.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
8. I certainly hope so Merry!
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:36 PM
Jan 2020

I do find it astounding that the White House Counsel is flat-out lying in his statement. I wish the Bar where he is registered would yank his law license. There isn't a Bar in DC, so maybe New York? William Barr needs to have his law license pulled as well.

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
16. WH counsel has either willfully lied or mistakenly lied in every statement.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

That is a heavy burden over your head when you're a lawyer and out of trump's syndicate. None of his "lawyers" will have trump to hide behind once they leave his service. I believe they will fall under their states' bar review, that's my hope. I know one of DU's awesome lawyers can set us straight.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
43. public is stupid and asleep, or watching game of thrones... oh wait....
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jan 2020

jeopardy

or the lone ranger. or...

live love laugh

(13,101 posts)
45. It makes a difference regardless of the outcome
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jan 2020

Democrats have given this their all. They are doing a stellar job carrying out the duties of their elected office. God bless America 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
2. And, here we continue with the republican sham of a trial...
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:29 PM
Jan 2020

However, if the public is listening, they are seeing just how corrupt the republicans and the president's team are. The House Managers are handling this masterfully in getting a whole helluva lot into the public.

IcyPeas

(21,859 posts)
13. the public probably aren't listening
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:37 PM - Edit history (1)

they will get soundbites.

if people of Jeopardy couldn't identify Adam Schiff last week (although I know it was filmed in October) I have no reason to think most people are following this as close as people here on this forum are. The public are already in their corners.

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
20. I know a lot of people who are watching, who aren't on the internet.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jan 2020

However, they are all members of our Democratic party. My guess is most republicans have their heads in the sand, just like their senate republicans and fox news. My hope is, enough regular folks do see this evidence our Dems are presenting and get royally ticked off!

mcar

(42,302 posts)
3. He really is
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jan 2020

Our managers are getting the evidence and obstruction out, despite Moscow Mitch's antics.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
6. Doesn't matter - people ain't buying it -
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:34 PM
Jan 2020

Not the ones I hear talk about it, those whom are even paying attention.
(But Maybe they’re pre-disposed already)

maxsolomon

(33,312 posts)
9. who's not buying what?
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jan 2020

The GOP's obstruction, or the Dem's carefully argued facts?

Who have you talked to? I'm at work, and everyone in this office is ignoring it during work hours.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
17. A few people who were watching - but they may be slanted
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

Cause they’re not seeing/buying the facts.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
19. Unfortunately no - that's the point - they aren't
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:23 PM
Jan 2020

Moved by the facts...they’re not buying them.

(Sorry to be confusing it’s depressing).

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
22. How unfortunate. Hoping the folks I know who are watching
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jan 2020

counter the folks you know. I know people who don't usually follow politics much, who are watching just for the historical nature of the proceeding. They're older and watched the Nixon and Clinton hearings, so maybe that's the difference.

Ponietz

(2,962 posts)
11. Team Trash are starting to sound like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail--
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jan 2020

“It’s just a flesh wound.”
“Right, I’ll do you for that.”
“I’m invincible!”
“All right, we’ll call it a draw.”

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
15. Again I walk in the park and this house was blasting audio from Adam Schiff
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jan 2020

Americans see the treason, corruption and lies by the GOP.

maxsolomon

(33,312 posts)
33. Schiff knows this isn't the time.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:38 PM
Jan 2020

The Republic needs saving.

Look for him to accept the AG job under President Yang (for instance).

MerryBlooms

(11,767 posts)
35. I disagree, there are persuadable voters left out there.
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jan 2020

They'll never vote Democratic, but they're wanting to write-in or go libertarian. Any vote trump loses, I'm all for. I do agree the Senate republicans are united, for some of them, I don't think that's a good thing and they're going to lose their seats.

at140

(6,110 posts)
36. Senators who lose probably make more money as lobbyists
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jan 2020

Corruption in politics is never going to end so long as there are lobbyists around.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
38. The people I talk to are
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jan 2020

disillusioned with all of government. They do not see that republicans are bad. They see it as all of government is bad (thank you so much raygun), and that they want nothing to do with it. Democrats are just as bad as the repugs in their opinion. The repugs have succeeded, in large part, in poisoning the well. Many people no longer give a shit about our government, and especially not about party affiliation.

If we cannot fix this, all else is moot.

I think Democrats can fix this, but there is much, much work to do.

It's a long row to hoe. Better to start now.

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