****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 6****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892639
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892926
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893290
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893638
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212894298

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Jeffries giving closing debate arguments for the Schumer Amendment to subpoena Mulvaney

Mentioned about the 400 bills sent to the Senate that sit on Turtle's desk.

"We worked with him to do the budget... and the Trade Agreement..." "We don't hate him".

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Jeffries: "We are here for the truth".

"If you don't know, now you know."

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Schiff now up... correcting the record!

[elleng]

4. Right! Love it,

'Mr. Purpura needs to 'watch' his facts!'

[Mersky]

5. Security assistance did come up in that July 25th call: Javelin missiles

But tRump, “needed a favor, though.”

Schiff recounted and named purpura as needing to be more careful with his facts.

[UniteFightBack]

6. OMG Jeffries..."If you don't know now you know". Younger folks will appreciate that. nt

[dem4decades]

8. He just kicked Sekalow's ass up and down the Senate floor.

[greenjar_01]

14. Younger folks? Ready to Die turned 25 in September of last year

It was all a dream
I used ta read Word Up! magazine...

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Schiff done. Turtle up. Motion to table the Amendment. Roll Call to table.

[mucifer]

9. Schiff sounded tired and defeated

[rockfordfile]

19. No he doesn't.

[ancianita]

30. Not at all. He knows what's at stake.

[Mersky]

10. "A vote to delay is a vote to deny."

...”When they say when, they mean never.“

Schiff called their number.

[Mersky]

11. Vote to table

Is my cue to contribute to Amy McGrath, and others.

[bdamomma]

92. Exactly

let's vote them out, let the money pour in.

I just gave a donation to Sara Gideon who is up against Susan Collins.

[Mersky]

102. I gave so much to the fund against collins during

The kavanaugh hearings, that I figured I’ve space-banked some points against her for this. I’ve contributed to Gideon on her own merits recently. Depending on how this goes, I may turn my sights squarely on collins. Today? I was out to telegraph how much I despise Moscow Midnight Mitch and his ways.

Totaled up to a big single day of contributions for me, and I’m fine with that. I’ve nixxed a lot of mindless consumerist purchases already over the tRump years and have room in the budget for contributions.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Tally - 53 yays 47 nays. TABLED.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Turtle wants to have Schumer "stack" the Amendments.

[elleng]

15. Stack the votes? HELL NO!

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Schumer saying "no" and wants votes on every Amendment

and pointing out the changes made at the last minute.

Willing to do some votes tomorrow but WILL have each Amendment voted on.

[ecstatic]

18. Good. Every single one of those rethuglican, criminal supporting traitors needs

to have every single traitorous vote documented. For all time.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Turtle now doing the "absence of a quorum" call

(so they roll call while they regather)

[BumRushDaShow]

20. ***THEY ARE BACK FROM QUORUM CALL***

[nolabear]

21. Senator Klobuchar had some great insights.

Can’t wait til others weigh in on what it was like when they weren’t just performing.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Schumer has submited another Amendment - subpoena to Secretary of Defense

and docs from DOD - related to the aid/military assistance/security assistance to Ukraine.

[cynatnite]

23. So basically Chuck told Mitch to go fuck himself. We're doing this. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Yup

with the only concession that some of the Amendments can be done tomorrow if they'd like. But he was going to have debate and a vote on every single one.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Schiff's time has been handed to Jason Crow (D-CO) to argue for this Amendment.

[Mersky]

26. Crow has the floor

[nolabear]

27. Crow's great at personalizing this.

[Mersky]

29. Yes, he is

My viewing was interrupted. Argh and lol, I have peeps in and out of the room. They just had to talk to me in the middle of Crow telling about what’s “on his chest” and how he’s trying to save our democracy.

[Greywing]

28. Pow! Jason Crow ... you go get them

Focus on the whining Republicans and White House "counsel" saying its too later ... I want to go home .. wah, wah, wah

McConnell had wanted to rush everything through ... one way or another House Managers are going to get the facts out.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Crow done. Patrick Philbin up (Deputy Counsel to the President)

[elleng]

32. Jerk!

WHY decide to have witnesses and documents NOW???

[ancianita]

33. Let's work the fuck out of these whiny bitches and their whiner counsel, Cipollone.

I hope they all turn on Mitch McConnell for creating the horrible, low class RULES that create their misery.

House Managers have killed it today. And they'll STILL keep killin' it.

Let Senate sellouts of the Constitution show themselves as the lazy, venal, Trump ass kissing jackals they are.

[mzmolly]

34. It appears to me that Dems are laying out a case, and the Republicans are not able to cross

examine anyone or refute the evidence, given they are attempting to 'not' hear any witnesses?

[ancianita]

44. Americans are seeing this, too. What lazy blaming, complaining whiners these Senator and counel are.

[mzmolly]

51. Agree.

[Mersky]

35. A few mins ago, Crow said that DoD had until Aug 6 to effectively spend the Ukrainian funds on time

He showed two previously redacted emails from McCusker, produced through FOIA requests, dated August 9 and early September expressing concern over the hold up in funding.

[Greywing]

36. These trump lawyers are pathetic!!!

Are they going to be one trick ponies through the entire process? Just seem desperate to not have witnesses or documents.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Philbin done. Crow is back (Dems have 38 minutes left).

[Greywing]

39. I really like how he kind of calls them out ...

Something on my chest ... something is really bugging me, etc

[Mersky]

38. I don't much like this Bill Nye.

I prefer the real one.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Crow handing off to Schiff.

And Schiff is the "cleanup man" to cleanse the air from the bullshit blurted out by the WH lawyers!

[elleng]

42. 'That's what we call a cover up.'

[BumRushDaShow]

43. And "Clinton turned over 90,000 documents BEFORE the trial"

THAT is the precedent!

[elleng]

46. Zacly

[Mersky]

41. Why not now? Why not have the information and facts, now?

Asked Crow.

I like him.

[Mersky]

45. Schiff: "If it's just abstract, then they can't argue the facts, then it's just some generic thing

... They didn’t want you to see the redacted and the unredacted.”

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Schiff done. Turtle motion to table this Amendment. Roll Call.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

48. Midnight Moscow Mitch is looking a little raggedy

[ancianita]

52. As raggedy as his dead soul.

[Mersky]

53. Is doing it to himself, as well as others.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

55. they are NOT used to actually sitting in the Senate

[Mersky]

68. As though they can't just swoop in and out, like they're confirming

unqualified judges.

[ancianita]

49. GO HARD, ADAM. Damn right we won't make it easy for them to say no to the American people!

[mzmolly]

54. !

[NiteOwl1]

60. +1

[Zoonart]

50. Thanks for doing this all day today, BRDS

[BumRushDaShow]

83. You are welcome.

My mind is getting fried.

[Zoonart]

91. No surprise.

It's a marathon.

[BumRushDaShow]

95. It's like a triathalon!

[NiteOwl1]

56. I make a motion to TABLE MITCH

He's obstructing justice

[bdamomma]

103. exactly

nt

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Tally - 53 yays 47 nays. TABLED.

[Mersky]

63. And once again, 53 senators put their names down in the

stubborn idiots column.

[BumRushDaShow]

58. Schumer submitting another Amendment to subpoena Robert P. Blair/Michael P. Duffy

[Blaukraut]

59. The clerk is starting to sound cranky. She's hate reading the amendment n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

64. They're used to that

[ancianita]

80. The clerk, like the Senate that sits on their graveyard of House bills, isn't used to working.

I've got news for all of them -- get used to it!

They and McConnell brought this upon themselves.

I hope all the Senate turn on McConnell about their misery of having to work.

Listening is the hardest work there is.

Get used to it, muthafuckaz!

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Sylvia Garcia (D-TX) up to argue on behalf of Schumer's Amendment

[ancianita]

62. BRDS?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

65. I'll second that!

My wife prefers using one of the streams BumRushDaShow posts, instead of the teevee.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. You are welcome!

[PA Democrat]

70. Yes! Yes! Yes!

Many thanks to brds!

[blogslut]

66. This strategy by the Democrats is just so smart and direct

[H2O Man]

69. Definitely!

I'm fully satisfied with the Democrats today, and mighty thankfulfor the powerful job they are doing.

[Mersky]

71. Yes it is. Are getting it out there.

The case against tRump will be heard one way or another.

[NiteOwl1]

81. 100% - Putting on the case with or without the Senate

during Prime Time no less

[NiteOwl1]

72. Republican Focus Group on the Impeachment Trial

[lindysalsagal]

104. Not buying it. Too intelligent.

[Takket]

73. pardon my ignorance but........

they voted tonight NOT to subpoena mulvaney. does that mean his appearance is dead, or does it mean he MIGHT be called later after the managers "present their case" if senators decide then that he needs to be herd from? i thought i read some want the case presented before they vote to allow documents and witnesses?

[dweller]

75. i think amendments are tabled

and can be called to vote on ' after the trial'
yeh, backasswards ...


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[BumRushDaShow]

76. Yes the latter is true

The Democrats want to avoid the Lucy and the football bait/switch and try for the amendments now - and get the case out there at the beginning because by the time that they might be allowed to do it at the end (IF the GOP vunerables abide by a promise to allow), then the public would have probably already tuned out by then.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

84. it's brilliant, best use of a bad setup ...

The Dems get the message out to the public and the press while so many are tuned in, and demonstrate how big a mountain of evidence that is being hidden.

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Exactly!

Impeachment hearings/trials (and actually any hearings) ARE "boring" (really) and the media hypes them up and then has the talking heads tear them down... and the public eventually tunes out.

For Democrats, it was pretty much "do or die" with the assumption that this might be their only chance to not only get the info to the public but to their own Senators, many of who have not or could not get into the minutia of the House inquiry (and thus needed enough compiled info to talk to constituents about). And it was made worse by Turtle continually changing the Rules resolution on-the-fly in order to ram it through like he's done those judges.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

96. lots of charts and bullet points for press and fora

This day (and now, night) reveals an incredible amount of work in a short period of time. Staffers have to be a little frazzled by now, but the work product is ready-made for dissemination in print, tv, and Internet.

[BumRushDaShow]

98. I really do feel for that staff that had to get it all ready

over a long weekend (that featured inclement winter weather to boot).

[elleng]

77. No, TABLED means they can/will take it up again/later.

[NiteOwl1]

86. Right... except they won't

Just using it as a less visible way to kill it so the Average Joe doesn't understand

[napi21]

74. Roberts just said there were 2 hours to discuss this next amendment. It's 10:40 on the east coast.

That will make it 12:30+AM when they vote on this one & Schumer said he has quite a few more amendments. BET YA the Pubs tell Turtle it's time to go home now!

[dweller]

79. fn snowflakes

😩

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[PA Democrat]

82. Roberts is scheduled to hear arguments in the Supreme Court tomorrow morning.

He can't be a happy camper right now.

[elleng]

88. Right. His job 'description's changed.

[BumRushDaShow]

90. That's 1 hour per side and the GOP hasn't spent more than maybe 15 - 20 minutes for their arguments.

[Mersky]

78. June 27: Blair to mulvaney - "Expect Congress to become unhinged"

On the slide given by Garcia.

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mick was told withholding aid was improper (if he didn’t already know). He did it anyway.

[BumRushDaShow]

85. Garcia: Mulvaney sought to "cover up"

and manufacture an "after the fact" reason for the delay.

[bdamomma]

87. The Dems are

not backing down. I think I'm going to record the rest of this, but it's interesting isn't it?

[Mersky]

93. Indeed. Is interesting, albeit tiresome and worthwhile.

The stalwart Dems are bringing the voluminous case against tRump.

[nolabear]

94. I know. I've just about had it for today. But

I love that they’ve had to sit there for hours and hours and hours and hours and...😄

[Hermit-The-Prog]

100. remember - a lot of this will be repeated and analyzed

It's a big feeding trough for the press and the public.

[nolabear]

101. True dat. But it's compelling history.

[Mossfern]

97. I hope she leaves enough time

for Schiff to rebut the defense's response.

[BumRushDaShow]

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