****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 7****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892639
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212892926
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893290
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212893638
Thread 5 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212894298
Thread 6 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212894914

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Cline done. Sylvia Garcia (D-TX) - continues to argue for the Schumer Amendment

to subpoena 2 OMB officials who signed off on delaying DOD funding for Ukraine.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

2. my local PBS sticking with it, Judy Woodruff calling it a night

[elleng]

71. Good; Mine too!

[Mossfern]

3. Is she winding up now?

[BumRushDaShow]

4. It sounds like she may be...

This Amendment does directly deal with that GAO report about the violation of the Impoundment Act.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Garcia done. OH GAWD Pam Bondi is up

[Hermit-The-Prog]

7. Fox viewers will now watch

[BumRushDaShow]

10. With baited breath too.

:joker:

[Mersky]

6. Blair and Duffey, career DoD officials, refused to comply with subpoenas

Because of tRump’s demands that they not appear.

[elleng]

8. Goodie, pam bondi.

Interested to see Adam Schiff's response to her.

HERE: Bondi-No agency counsel, REPUG rule.

[C_U_L8R]

9. Bondi seems breathless ... and factless

Wait, that's it? Ummm. Ok.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Bondi done. Schiff is back to clean up the Bondi bullshit

[dweller]

12. sweet !

they have a Valley Girl to wind it up !
cowabunga 😜

✌🏼

[BumRushDaShow]

13. BWAH! Schiff invoked Trey Gowdy's name!

[Mersky]

14. Uhm, pam, the scif isn't a bunker and it wasn't a secret

And the lack of tRump’s participation has already been covered. Keep up.

[ancianita]

22. You know gym jordan wrote this, right? She's there as filler.

[Mersky]

28. I've heard smatterings of Gymmy all day

But her glances were really hackneyed whether drawn from his example or directly from his writing or coaching.

Eta: For that matter, I think it was philbin channeling doug collins with his, pig in a poke, folksy blather moment.

[rockfordfile]

15. Bondi another corrupt Republican

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Schiff done. Turtle motion to table this Amendment. Roll Call.

[Blaukraut]

17. So much for Midnight Mitch. He's looking rough and even more shriveled

He is jonesing to slither back into his lair to drink the blood of small children for that late night pick-me-up.

[Mersky]

18. It is a familiar pattern, Brian Williams

mcconnell looks worse and worse every time he calls for a vote to table. They call the roll, and I go over to ActBlue.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Tally - 53 yays 47 nays. TABLED.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Schumer Amendment - to prevent "selective" submission of evidence and dealing with classified info

[BumRushDaShow]

21. ****5 MINUTE RECESS****

[dweller]

23. THE WHOLE WORLD IS STILL WATCHING !

5 minute HARD break .. and not a second more !

✌🏼

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. Moscow Mitch needs a pee break

[dweller]

26. he can potty in his porta shell

TIMES UP !

✌🏼

[BumRushDaShow]

29. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mersky]

36. LOL. I might have to borrow that term.

porta shell 🐢

[Kali]

25. gawd the loons that call in to cspan scare the shit out of me

what has happened to our education system?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

27. GOPers happened to our education system.

[elleng]

30. Right, killed us.

[Kali]

31. yep, nailed it

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Loons have been jamming the phones for years

with fakes claiming to be "Democrats" who end up spouting RW talking points. My mother (a CSPAN junkie) used to yell at the TV (notably at Brian Lamb when he was hosting call-ins) about having "his foot on the call-cutoff button" (under the table) to cut off Democrats if they got through.

[Kali]

33. I try to avoid comment sections, and public "discourse" like that

so it kind of shocks my system when I hear it. ugh

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Yeah it can get ugly

I try to avoid the comments too and bang my head on the table with many of the call-ins.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. ****BACK IN SESSION****

[ancianita]

35. Guess they're back. On LST -- Lazy Senate Time.

[California_Republic]

49. So much for McConnel's "hard five minutes"

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Schiff is now arguing about this Schumer Amendment

The issue is having the President cherry-pick certain documents to be submitted to the Senate and bypassing the House subpoenas for ALL the documents that have been requested.

Called "Rule of Completeness" to not mislead.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Schiff done. Cippy has passed off to Patrick Philbin

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Philbin done and has passed off to Suckylow.

[elleng]

43. who is LOW!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

44. Sucky sounds more and more like Gym Jacketoff as the night wears on

[C_U_L8R]

41. Poor Jay is confused.

[uponit7771]

42. The kink in the constitution is showing, the courts aren't effective cause they're slow

... nauseously slow when it comes to issues like this

[BumRushDaShow]

45. And Schiff back to correct the Suckylow bullshit (House managers have 54 minutes remaining)

[ecstatic]

46. I'm so angry right now.

It's going to be hard to sleep tonight.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

48. You can't be angry. Label says "ecstatic".

[ecstatic]

52. Thanks for the chuckle. nt

[Mersky]

47. "An unconstitutional attempt to correct a defect in their process"

Suck y low, that was legalese garbage.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

51. In his world, the Constitution is unconstitutional ...

He failed to understand the House has the sole power of impeachment and it sets its own rules.

[Mersky]

55. Yeah, I just have to call it out

I was completely irritated with him using the ‘defect’ phrasing to make him sound lawyerly. That republicans haven’t been able to recognize the legitimacy of their opponents in the House has been a constant annoyance.

He’ll slap unconstitutional on anything that suits the moment.

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Schiff done. Turtle motion to table this Amendment. Roll Call.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. And another tally - 53 yays 47 nays. TABLED.

[BumRushDaShow]

54. Schumer Amendment - to send a subpoena to John Robert Bolton

[ancianita]

58. All right!! Let's drag their lazy asses through their own muck and mire! Go, Jerry!

[BumRushDaShow]

56. Schiff handed off to Nadler to argue for Schumer's Amendment to subponea Bolton

[Hermit-The-Prog]

57. Nadler is not scared of the word, "lie"!

[ancianita]

60. And proceeds to give examples to America.

[BumRushDaShow]

59. Nadler about Republicans - "They lie they lie they lie"

[Greywing]

61. He is on fire and seems to be very energized at 12:06 AM n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

62. I need some of that fire that Nadler is exuding.

He is pissed!

[ancianita]

64. "They know Bolton knows too much" Go, Jerry!

[Greywing]

67. BTW ... I salute you for doing such a great job today with

these threads. So very helpful for those of us sitting at work without access to a TV. Helped me stay caught up on what was happening. Thank You!

[BumRushDaShow]

72. You are welcome!

This is historic and I know back during the Clinton impeachment, I was at work too and had to try to catch what I could from the radio during the day or a little portable tv that a couple of us eventually bought (and then reruns at night - and Comcast was fooling around with the timing of switching on the CSPAN2 feed because at the time, they were splitting the CSPAN2 Senate broadcasts with the "PCN" channel that showed PA state programming during the day). I was in junior high during the Nixon Watergate hearings and would listen on our local NPR radio station here in Philly (WHYY) when commuting home from school on the train (and my parents were watching on TV).

So now I can watch it "gavel to gavel" as a retiree!

[Leghorn21]

63. Rep Nadler just WOKE MY TIRED ASS *UP*

BRING IT, GOOD SIR

NO MERCY

[Hermit-The-Prog]

65. Hope he has that effect on Senators and public.

[BumRushDaShow]

66. Yes.

And he's usually sortof sleepy but not tonight!

[OliverQ]

68. I was working today so I missed most of this

except hearing Republicans voted against all documents and witnesses.

Sounds like Trump really is going to get away with everything, and Republicans are giving him the green light to commit any crimes he wants for at least the next year.

The unfairness and corruption of all of this makes me want to throw up. It's really affecting my health.

[Mersky]

69. Nadler: The question is whether the Senate will be complicit with the pResident's crimes

by helping to cover it up.

___
Is good to see Nadler up there. He sounds good.

[ancianita]

70. Jerry: Will the Senate not bring in Bolton and participate in a coverup?? DAMN.

[BumRushDaShow]

73. Nadler is stepping through Bolton's activities using the testimony from

Hill and others....

[ancianita]

75. I love how they brought the oldest guy on the team up last. A real slap at the Senate whiners.

Nadler's killin' it!

In intelligence and professionalism, this whole team out-senates the Senate.

[elleng]

76. He's doing REALLY well!

'Only guilty people try to hide the evidence!'

[BumRushDaShow]

77. Well in this case, traditionally the House Judiciary Committee Chair would be the lead

and Nadler has deferred to Schiff to handle the time allocations and manage their team. So I was wondering which Amendment Nadler would be focusing on and he targeted Bolton.

[ancianita]

78. I hear you. Which shows just how there is no "I" in team with professionals. Saving

Jerry for Bolton is the best end to this amazing day.

[Mersky]

74. Clip from Dr. Fiona Hill's testimony regarding Bolton's warning of the 'drug deal'

When asked if she went to legal counsel regarding this, she responded, “I certainly did.”

And another Hill clip in response to Bolton’s take on giuliani as being a “hand grenade that will blow everybody up”. She explained how she thought he meant that their plot would backfire.

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Don’t think I’ll ever tire of Dr. Hill’s manner of speaking. She is shockingly smart.

[Mersky]

79. Nadler's five point slide for why Bolton should appear

It’s excellent:

1. pResident’s national security aide and now willing to testify.
2. Direct knowledge of pResident’s scheme: akin to the drug deal
3. Expressed concerns giuliani would “blow everybody up.”
4. Predicted the July 25th call would be a “disaster” and urged that officials report concerns.
5. Actively involved in addressing the pResident’s freeze on Ukraine military aid

[underthematrix]

80. We need to work 24 hours a day, seven days a week to get this done

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

81. Nadler done. Cippycup up - and actually speaking

or bullshitting. He looks wiped.

[elleng]

82. SERIOUS bullshitting.

[ancianita]

83. " In the greatest deliverative body in the world anyone would be SHOCKED that ANY Senator

would vote to block Bolton's appearance before them!

And complicit in the president's coverup. (Damn!)

I see a number of Senators willing to vote against a fair trial, against the United States!

Either you want the truth and permit witnesses, or you want a coverup. History will judge and so will the electorate"!!

JERRY KILLED IT!

[Mersky]

84. And history will judge and so will the electorate

Nadler was great.

[lamp_shade]

85. You're not the boss of me (Cipollone to Nadler)

[elleng]

87. MORE projection.

and 'President trump is a man of his word!'

[Mersky]

86. Ciccipus is just gonna whine and whine some more

So many pauses. Gah, he’s frustrating.

[BumRushDaShow]

88. Fuck you Cippycup. You're done.

[SamKnause]

89. Cipollone fake outrage ???

Trump's defense team is as disgusting as he is.

Damn the lies are really piling up.

"President Trump is a man of his word", says Cipollone.

No one owes you anything, especially an apology.

Sekulow screaming his lies now.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. I think they got a message to kick it up a notch.

[SamKnause]

98. Seems that way.

Now, both sides are be admonished by the Judge.

[unc70]

99. Trump probably watching from Switzerland

I can't imagine that Trump is happy with how his team has been doing this first day.

[BumRushDaShow]

100. There's not much for them to do

except bullshit because their client's default position is - "WITCH HUNT!!!11!!!!" "NO QUID PRO QUO!!!111!!!! "FAKE!!!11!!!!".

[BumRushDaShow]

90. And then Suckylow adds to the bullshit

Someone must have tweeted to them to fire themselves up because they were sleepily going through the motions!

[ancianita]

91. Cippy be like "Naughty naughty! OUR house, not yours, you unruly cur! Ridiculous!

Bad doggy!

Americans! They're here to take away their vote, their voice!

They've attackted uses! We gots to bring dis powers tripses into landing!

Our presidentsis has been wunnerful!

Dey's a farce and YOU, bad doggy Nadler, oweses us bigly pology to our bossy, our Senatesers and Americanz! "

Shaming as lawyering.

[Mersky]

92. And he's WH counsel

Gross. Has he been talking to nunes? That felt like a nunes lecture.

[Kali]

94. sucklow sure does suck

but Obamaaaa!!!!

[ancianita]

95. Sekulow: SHAMESHAMESHAME ON YOU NADLER! Big Lawyer Outrage Theater.

[BumRushDaShow]

96. ****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL THREAD 8**** UP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212895818

[madaboutharry]

97. Attacking Nadler....., Blah Blah blah

Attacking the House Managers.

Oh brother, demanding Nadler apologize to the world....what crap.

The fake outrage is what is really ridiculous.