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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:28 AM Jan 2020

Were you surprised that not even one Republican voted for documents or witnesses?

Every vote ended with the same total, 53 to 47.

It does appear that they had already given their word that they would not vote for any witnesses or documents until all the arguments were closed. Even Mitt Romney said he would not vote for John Bolton until the process that McConnell created had run its course.

Either Trump or McConnell had talked with all these Senators before the trial started, and they naively agreed to not vote for anything until the end. All the votes were preordained. That was fairly obvious after the very first vote for documents.

Republicans were united. They were not listening to facts or evidence. They were going to timidly follow their corrupt leaders wherever they wanted to go.

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Were you surprised that not even one Republican voted for documents or witnesses? (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2020 OP
Ha! vrguy Jan 2020 #1
Might be a cover vote for their constituencies? More to come. empedocles Jan 2020 #2
I was surprised so many are failing our people for such a Pig. pwb Jan 2020 #3
Not surprised, damn degenerates. MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #4
Incredibly disappointed. Not exactly surprised. Mike 03 Jan 2020 #5
Ah, NO. a kennedy Jan 2020 #6
This is who they are Bettie Jan 2020 #7
Lemmings to the end! 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2020 #8
One vote was 52 to 48. SamKnause Jan 2020 #9
This is 2020. Not in the slightest. JHB Jan 2020 #10
...oathbreakers... FirstLight Jan 2020 #11
Question of the century world wide wally Jan 2020 #14
Not for the fucking Madman atreides1 Jan 2020 #15
Yes, that too FirstLight Jan 2020 #16
If there was any silver lining to these votes, PRETZEL Jan 2020 #12
No, they've showing us multiple times they don't care about democracy uponit7771 Jan 2020 #13
Nope. Although we are on the right side of this, I was also not surprised Democrats voted together. Hoyt Jan 2020 #17
mot even a tiny bit surprised. SlogginThroughIt Jan 2020 #18
I thought Romney might stand up to Trump vlyons Jan 2020 #19
No, they already said they would only vote for witnesses AFTER opening arguments are over wishstar Jan 2020 #20
They hate democracy I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2020 #21

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. Incredibly disappointed. Not exactly surprised.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jan 2020

The eloquence of the House managers would give me a flicker of hope that some consciences might be awakened, but it didn't happen.

It was a profoundly sad night.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. This is who they are
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jan 2020

they don't care about this country, their only quibble with Agent Orange (impeached) is that he is too open about his corruption, but it's all good, they are making a lot of money!

JHB

(37,158 posts)
10. This is 2020. Not in the slightest.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jan 2020

The only question is how far back you can change the year and it's still true.

Hint: It ain't any time in the 21st century.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
11. ...oathbreakers...
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jan 2020

They are basically burning the Constitution openly on the Senate floor...and for whàt, who?

A fucking Madman 🤬

atreides1

(16,072 posts)
15. Not for the fucking Madman
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jan 2020

Emails, photos, videos, and payment ledgers....that's why they're burning the Constitution!!!

Enough evidence that will either put them behind bars for a very long, or at the very least result in expensive divorce proceedings...

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
16. Yes, that too
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jan 2020

But the Madman thinks it's all for him...which will Ave the way for even more blatant madness and criminal acts...

No more checks and balances...
Once they are home free, the looting of the country can begin in earnest...

We are in for a very bumpy ride and we may not get an election day after all 🥺

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
12. If there was any silver lining to these votes,
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jan 2020

it's that those votes were to table the amendments, not to dismiss them.

But as it stands right now, the first set of ads should be being made right now, highlighting the hypocrisy of these initital votes.

Even though no subpoenas are being issued, I still think we win the first round.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Nope. Although we are on the right side of this, I was also not surprised Democrats voted together.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jan 2020

Unfortunately, it's the way it is and won't change until we outvote them over and over.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
20. No, they already said they would only vote for witnesses AFTER opening arguments are over
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jan 2020

Opening arguments won't finish until next Tuesday after 3 days from Dems and 3 days from Repubs. Romney and Collins were very specific about not voting for witnesses/documents until after all the opening arguments. Yesterday was not considered opening arguments, only debating the procedural resolution.

Problem though as explained by Schiff is that resolution passed yesterday not only pushed possible later vote on witnesses and docs to not only after opening arguments, but also after all of the questions from Senators have been asked and answered which is ridiculous.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
21. They hate democracy
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jan 2020

Because they believe they are better than other people.
Think they have a divine rights to rule,and they want an aristocratic government. That's why they do not care about democracy or the Constitution,thier oaths or checks and balances.

They are treasonous because of what they believe.

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