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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:16 AM Jan 2020

big news breaking soon that sit at the intersection of the Jamal Khashoggi murder, Jeff Bezos phone

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big news breaking soon that sit at the intersection of the Jamal Khashoggi murder, the Jeff Bezos phone hack, and Saudi suppression of free speech

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There are big news breaking soon that sit at the intersection of the Jamal Khashoggi murder, the Jeff Bezos phone hack, and Saudi suppression of free speech. I'm one of few people who knows the entire story. If any reporters wish to get in touch, please email press@kawaakibi.org.


Background, and a mere foretaste, here. washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/…
More here. A lot more coming.

Stephanie Kirchgaessner
@skirchy
About that hack. Here's our scoop: Amazon boss Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince' https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/21/amazon-boss-jeff-bezoss-phone-hacked-by-saudi-crown-prince?CMP=share_btn_tw

Amazon boss Jeff Bezos's phone 'hacked by Saudi crown prince'
Exclusive: investigation suggests Washington Post owner was targeted five months before murder of Jamal Khashoggi
theguardian.com

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1. Jeff Bezos's phone was hacked through his Whatsapp account

2. The exploit came *directly* from MBS's personal phone, a few days after they exchanged numbers

3. The Saudis were in Bezos's phone from May 2018 till February 2019

4. The Bezos hack was not about Amazon. It was about the Washington Post

5. There is an extensive forensic report upcoming

6. Full details around this will become available to the public in a few months

7. Yes it was Pegasus, the cyberweapon made by Israeli company NSO

8. You think you're safe if you use Signal with disappearing messages? Think again

9. Between May and October 2018, the Saudis also hacked many others. All were about free speech, not business.

I'll take your questions under this tweet
I'll be back online in the morning. Remember that you can support my little team's work here. Yes, it's our little Patreon vs the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia (who wants me dead), but I believe in you guys.
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big news breaking soon that sit at the intersection of the Jamal Khashoggi murder, Jeff Bezos phone (Original Post) Roland99 Jan 2020 OP
Kick and recommend - this is a MUCH BIGGER story than people realize Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #1
More: Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #3
Didn't Bezos admit to the affair and hire security experts so that he couldn't be blackmailed? Pepsidog Jan 2020 #11
This is my recollection. The security experts he hired were also crack investigators who Mike 03 Jan 2020 #19
This morning, I posted this thread: dewsgirl Jan 2020 #2
Trump was complicit in that murder. triron Jan 2020 #4
Certainly...I hope that becomes public. I felt hopeful a dewsgirl Jan 2020 #6
I've long believed that. dchill Jan 2020 #51
Part of the dirty deal Flynn was working on I suspect. Pepsidog Jan 2020 #12
Yup. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #38
Trump and Kushners were probably hacked as well ToxMarz Jan 2020 #21
Highly probable. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #23
Whoa! Trump's being doubly blackmailed. nt Duppers Jan 2020 #34
Trump is a blackmailer's dream. Mafia ties, corruption, Catch and Kill. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #39
So that's why bdamomma Jan 2020 #47
Indelible moment. One for the history books. blm Jan 2020 #52
When it comes to effective communication, rule number one is know your audience. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2020 #5
If about the Washington Post, you can be sure that tRump was INFORMED. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #7
I'm sure it goes a bit beyond informed. KPN Jan 2020 #10
Yes. I know iit. That fucker is downright evil as hell. triron Jan 2020 #35
Co-conspirator. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #40
+1 2naSalit Jan 2020 #18
THIS malaise Jan 2020 #41
K&R HAB911 Jan 2020 #8
They need to hack Dimwit's phone where he tips off Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #9
Perhaps this has been done already TruckFump Jan 2020 #13
Probably true, I was thinking more on the line of Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #24
IMO, Dotard the Total Narcissist TruckFump Jan 2020 #25
Here's the catch. He surrounds himself with Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #32
A real professional mobster. triron Jan 2020 #36
Very much so. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #43
Oh they all are bdamomma Jan 2020 #48
Nailed it. It's a giant blackmail ring. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #42
Like your posts. triron Jan 2020 #45
? ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #46
How do we know his phone hasn't been hacked already? Initech Jan 2020 #17
Hacked? 2naSalit Jan 2020 #20
I would not be surprised in the least if Trump's iPhone password was 123456. Initech Jan 2020 #33
Thank you Laura saidsimplesimon Jan 2020 #30
Did he do it for the Con malaise Jan 2020 #14
Well, he seems to think Kushner was in MBS' phone first Roland99 Jan 2020 #31
Kushner is close family friends with Bibi Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson. ArtTownsend Jan 2020 #44
Which is why I still stand by my claim that Saudi Arabia can go fuck itself. Initech Jan 2020 #15
Hmm...bin Salman and Trump are good buddies. LudwigPastorius Jan 2020 #16
+1 2naSalit Jan 2020 #22
Probably bdamomma Jan 2020 #49
From the looks of his Twitter, he seems legit. dewsgirl Jan 2020 #26
Kick. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #27
WAPO: "Saudi crown prince implicated in hack of Jeff Bezos's phone, Hortensis Jan 2020 #28
I use Signal. If this is true -- and I'll find out -- this pisses me off. But it could be hybrid ancianita Jan 2020 #29
Turkey still has Khashoggi's phone Roland99 Jan 2020 #37
K&R bdamomma Jan 2020 #50
I support him & I want justice for Khashoggi. On a side note, how do we protect ourselves? ecstatic Jan 2020 #53

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. Kick and recommend - this is a MUCH BIGGER story than people realize
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jan 2020

...especially in light of Kushner's close friendship w/ MBS (Jared was also likely hacked).

HUGE NatSec story that will break hard, and will be deeply disturbing.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. More:
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mbs-taunted-jeff-bezos-over-affair-before-national-enquirer-story-broke

Mohammad bin Salman flaunted private info stolen from Jeff Bezos’ phone just a month after his ‘Washington Post’ columnist Jamal Khashoggi had been murdered, according to the UN.

Nico Hines
London Editor

Updated Jan. 22, 2020 10:24AM ET / Published Jan. 22, 2020 9:54AM ET

Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman sent Jeff Bezos a photograph resembling the woman he was having an affair with months before the National Enquirer published the story, according to a United Nations investigation.

Two United Nations special rapporteurs released a statement Wednesday detailing forensic evidence linking MBS to the Bezos hack, which suggests the future king of Saudi Arabia may have been threatening the owner of The Washington Post and founder and CEO of Amazon.

Saudi Arabia on Tuesday night denied allegations of a politically motivated hack when it emerged that the UN was expected to formally request a response to the extraordinary claim that malware was sent from MBS’ personal WhatsApp account to Bezos.

The alleged hack took place in May 2018, a few months after Jamal Khashoggi began writing critical columns about the Saudi regime for the Post. Four months later, Khashoggi was murdered and dismembered inside a Saudi consulate. The CIA concluded that MBS had personally ordered his assassination.

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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
19. This is my recollection. The security experts he hired were also crack investigators who
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jan 2020

had high confidence Saudi Arabia had hacked his phone and leaked photographs to a tabloid (National Enquirer).

Then Bezos wrote an article about it to call his blackmailers' bluff. He refused to be blackmailed.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. This morning, I posted this thread:
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212896389

Days after Khasoggi's death, Trump transferred nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia, without the knowledge of Congress.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
6. Certainly...I hope that becomes public. I felt hopeful a
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:10 PM
Jan 2020

couple months ago, when that story about Kushner, MBS and a WB, was floating around.🤞🤞

ToxMarz

(2,162 posts)
21. Trump and Kushners were probably hacked as well
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jan 2020

And he got the message he should cooperate... or else they meant business.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
5. When it comes to effective communication, rule number one is know your audience.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jan 2020

Rule number two?

Assume the entire world is always your potential audience.

Depresses the hell out of me, but that's the reality.

ETA: And in no way, shape, or form, am I condoning spying, hacking, or any other breech of trust or privacy by saying this.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
9. They need to hack Dimwit's phone where he tips off
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jan 2020

his buddies in what stocks may go up or down based on his irratic antics with tariffs. The phone that's unsecured and laden with fast food grease.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
13. Perhaps this has been done already
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jan 2020

It would and could explain Dotard's favoritism to certain rulers and countries, IMO.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. Probably true, I was thinking more on the line of
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jan 2020

Someone who wants to expose him because he's such a crook. Rather than someone else who wants to blackmail or seek favors.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
25. IMO, Dotard the Total Narcissist
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jan 2020

Will eventually push someone to expose him.

DJT is a total piece of shit...evil, malicious, tarnished, stupid and unworthy.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
32. Here's the catch. He surrounds himself with
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jan 2020

Other crooked people. So THEY won't expose him because that would incriminate them. And if they get caught ( Michael Cohen, Lev Parnis) then they are lying to get favorable legal treatment. Anyone else is a flat out liar (Omarosa, the Whistleblower). And he never puts anything in writing or on tape. Until he slipped up with the Ukraine transcript I guess.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
17. How do we know his phone hasn't been hacked already?
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jan 2020

It's no secret that he uses an unsecured iPhone to conduct government business, He treats cyber security as if it's a non existent threat. And Mar-A-Shithole is most likely bugged up the wazoo as well. So...

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
20. Hacked?
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jan 2020

It's been linked to all who are in the loop! MBS got Jared's phone linked up when they were visiting at some point a couple years back.

All those unsecured communiques? Honestly, this has been going on for a while now, glad it's getting exposure. And what about those phones that merge info when you hold them close together? Easy peasy.

We'll need to reinvent security after we run these fuckers off the planet.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
33. I would not be surprised in the least if Trump's iPhone password was 123456.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jan 2020

Much like Kanye, or maybe President Skroob.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
31. Well, he seems to think Kushner was in MBS' phone first
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jan 2020



Haha, it was Kushner who helped MBS obtain the hacking software in the first place. But yes the two are whatsapp buddies, have been for years.

Karen Attiah

@KarenAttiah
Replying to @KarenAttiah
So. Did MBS hack Kushner's phone too?

İyad el-Baghdadi | إياد البغدادي

@iyad_elbaghdadi
More likely that Kushner was in MBS's phone long before MBS had the capability to be in people's phones.
 

ArtTownsend

(439 posts)
44. Kushner is close family friends with Bibi Netanyahu and Sheldon Adelson.
Thu Jan 23, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jan 2020

Three words: NSO Group, Pegasus.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
15. Which is why I still stand by my claim that Saudi Arabia can go fuck itself.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jan 2020

They are not our friends, and we (as a country) should stop pretending that they are.

LudwigPastorius

(9,104 posts)
16. Hmm...bin Salman and Trump are good buddies.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jan 2020

...and, Trump hates, Hates, HATES Bezos because he's richer than he is. Was bin Salman looking into how hard it would be to have his henchmen "Khashoggi" Bezos?

Did Trump call up the crown prince earlier and say "I'm going to get that $8.1 billion in arms to you, I would like you to do us a favor though"?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. WAPO: "Saudi crown prince implicated in hack of Jeff Bezos's phone,
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jan 2020
U.N. report will say."

The report is expected to detail a forensic investigation into long-standing allegations by Bezos, the world’s richest man, that the Saudi regime launched a cyberattack on him as part of a complex series of conflicts among Bezos, the Saudis, President Trump and the National Enquirer tabloid. A U.N. official, special rapporteur David Kaye, says in a new documentary film that Bezos’s phone was infected with malware that was delivered via a message from Mohammed. ...

A Saudi court last month sentenced five people to death for the assassination, but Callamard says in the documentary that the sentencing has allowed the plot’s masterminds, whom she believes to include Mohammed and his senior advisers, to avoid censure.

In January 2019, the National Enquirer, a longtime defender of Trump, published a cover story exposing an extramarital affair between Bezos and Lauren Sanchez, a pilot and former TV host. On the occasion of Mohammed’s visit to the United States, the Enquirer’s parent company published a glossy magazine titled “The New Kingdom” extolling the prince’s reign as a golden era. Immediately after the article was published, Saudi accounts launched fresh Twitter attacks on Bezos. ... Bezos did not deny the affair but wrote an online essay in which he said he was investigating how the Enquirer had obtained his texts with his girlfriend.

...

Meanwhile, Trump stepped up his criticism of Bezos, Amazon and The Post, tweeting that he would take “a very strong look” at Amazon Web Services’ efforts to win a Defense Department cloud computing contract. The $10 billion contract was awarded to Microsoft in October. Amazon filed a legal complaint last month saying that it lost the contract because Trump had applied “improper pressure” against Amazon.

Really, you can't make this stuff up. If it were a novel I'd have trashed it 1200 ridiculously improbable pages before it ever got to the House of Sawd's bloody prince, Trump's illicit transfer of nuclear technology, and a whole string of complex etceteras, with all his roads leading to Russia.

But it's just in time for the court of public opinion to note as Senate Republicans smash the constitution to hold an acquittal coverup instead of an impeachment trial.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
29. I use Signal. If this is true -- and I'll find out -- this pisses me off. But it could be hybrid
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020

insurgent provocation to market test influence on Americans and American journalists.

ecstatic

(32,650 posts)
53. I support him & I want justice for Khashoggi. On a side note, how do we protect ourselves?
Fri Jan 24, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jan 2020

I'd hope that hackers wouldn't be interested in hacking me, but just in case, what should we do to protect or phones, etc? I don't use What's app, so I guess that's a good start.

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