****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/24/20 THREAD 2****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212904989

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Adam Schiff is continuing to summarize arguments to conclude the presentation for Article I

[Mersky]

39. Slide: pResident tRump's Pattern of Behavior Foreshadowing Future Harm

1. Russia’s plot is ongoing
2. pResident tRump’s refuses to condemn Russian attacks
3. pResident tRump’s pattern foreshadows misconduct
4. pResident tRump’s ongoing offenses leaves our elections vulnerable

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Reposted from the end of Live Thread #1, comment #93

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Thanks for that!

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Schiff played clip of Drumpf spouting the Russian-propaganda standing right next to Putin

[Arkansas Granny]

3. Good move on his part.

[BumRushDaShow]

6. THAT clip was devastating based on what Schiff is saying about what it means

[Mersky]

10. Yes. Devastating.

Is a segment of his argument that needs coverage.

[5X]

5. He is not holding back on the orange dotard, is he.

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Schiff: The most incredible propaganda coup - reading Kremlin talking points

[gademocrat7]

7. Adam Schiff is hitting it home again.

Showing Helsinki press conference with Trump promoting Russian propaganda.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. Thank you BumRushDaShow!

These threads are as much relief as they are informative.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Sorry my jaw keeps dropping

[Hermit-The-Prog]

12. trying to eat lunch here, dang near choked "greatest propaganda coup"

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Schiff: "I hope it was worth it for him because it certainly wasn't worth it for the United States."

[Hermit-The-Prog]

13. is Schiff doing this now to get it in before networks cut away?

[BumRushDaShow]

16. They still have to do their presentation of Article II

which will go into tonight...

[Hermit-The-Prog]

22. yes, but he's dropping bomb after bomb, now!

[BumRushDaShow]

25. I think this is their biggest charge with the most documentation

and is probably why it was the first article.

When they finally go to vote, although we know what the outcome will be, each Article is voted on separately so one could have a conviction on one Article and acquittal on another.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

28. This is the strongest appeal to Senators and public alike, too.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Yup.

And I think it also had a bigger burden of proof.

I think Article II is "obstruction of Congress" which may be more cut and dry going through all their refusals to provide docs, witnesses, etc.

[BumRushDaShow]

14. And he invoked Atticus Finch!!

(I had texted that comparison to my cousin last night when describing Schiff's presentation yesterday)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

15. wish I could type as fast as he speaks; people HAVE to hear this!

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Agree. I just can't do it - I can only capture the end of a sentence.

[crickets]

21. Agreed - it's stunning. nt

[crickets]

17. Schiff hasn't used the exact words but is making the point that

Trump is Putin's puppet.

[BumRushDaShow]

20. Exactly and he did that in such a dramatic fashion too

[sprinkleeninow]

31. ...

putins puppet
putins puppet
putins puppet
putins pu....

[Hermit-The-Prog]

18. solicit sham foreign investigation - what if it was you?

[malaise]

23. Schiff is brilliant

He is weaving all the different textures and colors of the criminality that is Don the Con and his goons.

Back for the rest of the day/night.

[Mersky]

24. Slide: 'Very much counter to the plan': Trump defies advisers in embrace of Putin

In the end, Trump’s performance alongside Putin in the Finnish capital seemed like a tour through his most controversial conspiracy theories, tweets and off-the-cuff musings on Russia — except he did it all while abroad, standing just feet from Putin, the leader of one of America’s greatest geopolitical foes.

The spectacle in Helsinki also underscored Trump’s eagerness to disregard his own advisers, his willingness to flout the conclusions of his own intelligence community — that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. elections — and his apparent fear that pressing Putin on the subject might cast doubt on his electoral victory.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/very-much-counter-to-the-plan-trump-defies-advisers-in-embrace-of-putin/2018/07/16/b2176bfe-8921-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html

[Hermit-The-Prog]

26. Thank you for the link to the whole article!

[Mersky]

27. Happy to

Is teamwork in here

[DonaldsRump]

29. Adam Schiff is amazing

Am listening to him right now, and this is the most compelling advocacy I have ever heard from a lawyer (and I'm a lawyer myself).

This man needs to be President one day very, very soon. He is the essence of a great statesman.

[bpositive]

62. He was amazing.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Schiff has concluded the Article I arguments.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. recess so TrumPutin and Moscow Mitch can flush Schiff from GOPer minds

[BumRushDaShow]

34. ****15 MINUTE RECESS****

[Hermit-The-Prog]

35. an ABC talker just called Trump "subservient" in the Putin clip ...

And now they're talking to Leningrad Lindsey in the hall.
MUTED.

[Kali]

36. Lindsey if you want to investigate the Bidens, go for it!

STFU!!!!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

37. He was bouncing and stabbing with that finger. Figured it was about Bidens.

[Lonestarblue]

38. Adam Schiff is amazing!

He must have been one hell of a prosecutor.

[dchill]

55. He still is!

[nolabear]

41. Fox interviewing Joe Manchin, trying to trap him it seems.

Asking leading questions about how he’ll vote, and do the Dems have the votes re witnesses. He’s doing great, not taking any of it.

I’ll give them one thing. In the few minutes I watched they covered the ABC story re the new recording, showed a clip of 45 in an interview to be on tonight where he said he had every right to say it, and then pointed out it did go counter to his claim of not knowing Parnas and Fruman.

Now back to sanity...

[BumRushDaShow]

42. OMG MSNBC played a clip of Suckylow in the hall

and the man looked frazzled and started stabbing his finger in the air spewing about yet another CT.

[elleng]

43. Gonna be SOOOO BAD,

will seriously miss Dems. Sorry rain here tomorrow, so limited interest in being outside.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. he must be talking to Trump -- "Hillary! Steele dossier!" -- MUTE

[BumRushDaShow]

49. He actually sounded panicked

He was like "W-w-w-we're gonna have our case ready for tomorrow!!111!! We're working on it!!!!" "What they won't tell you blah blah Fusion GPS!!111!!!! blah blah FBI!!!11!!!! blah blah".

[Hermit-The-Prog]

44. local broadcast ABC, NBC cut to regular programming

[BumRushDaShow]

45. ****BACK IN SESSION****

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Val Demmings (D-FL) up - presenting Article II "Obstruction of Congress"

[Hermit-The-Prog]

48. Val Demings up about the cover-up

[nolabear]

50. Obstruction time! GO Rep. Demings!

[nolabear]

51. I know this is shallow but damn that woman can dress!

That blue yesterday and now the purple...

[BumRushDaShow]

53. I know

I am fascinated by that outfit!! Royal purple (I used to love that color when I was little ).

[Mme. Defarge]

66. Class all the way!

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Demmings has a chart showing 6 Departments all refusing to produce documents

in response to 71 specific requests including 5 subpoenas.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

54. unprecedented obstruction

[crickets]

56. Demmings: you should not wait to read about this evidence in a book.

You should be hearing this evidence NOW.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

58. she might as well have said, Bolton's gonna publish! :)

[crickets]

60. Exactly! Great minds think alike. nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

57. Foreshadowing: this body should not wait to read about it in the press or a *book*

[Mersky]

59. Slide: pResident tRump's Unprecedented Obstruction

Comprehensive: Applied to the entire eXecutive Branch

Categorical: Prohibited all cooperation

Indiscriminate: No case-by-case consideration & No negotiation

[BumRushDaShow]

61. Demmings: "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

[Hermit-The-Prog]

63. concludes: obstruction remains ongoing

[Mersky]

64. Slide: pResident tRump Ordered his Administration to Refuse All Document Requests

(Images of the official seals and titles of the following

- White House
- Office of the Vice pResident
- Office of Management and Budget
- Department of State
- Department of Defense
- Department of Energy

[BumRushDaShow]

65. Demmings concludes with: "His obstruction remains ongoing"

(and related to that - I JUST read about Ghouliani having been in an unhinged interview on Faux this morning refusing to leave and railing CT - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142423484 )

[Mersky]

67. Slide: Overview

- pResident tRump took extraordinary measures to conceal evidence from Congress

- Obstruction of Congress warrants impeachment

- PResident tRump acted unlawfully and must be removed from office

[BumRushDaShow]

68. Sylvia Garcia (D-TX) up and will walk through the "facts" of the charge.

[crickets]

69. *forehead smack* I knew I was forgetting something...

Wonkette!
https://www.wonkette.com/take-her-out-heads-on-pikes-trump-impeachment-trial-liveblog-day-four

(edit for correct day - there's liveblogging for each one)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

72. Thanks! I see wonkette has an embedded CSPAN2 stream, too.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. Garcia: President engaged in "intimadation"

"As a lawyer and former judge have never seen anything like this"

[Hermit-The-Prog]

71. broadcast CBS interrupted Garcia; talkers; about to cut away to regular programming

[Hermit-The-Prog]

77. and PBS Woodruff does the same stupid shit as yesterday ...

Woodruff interrupts Garcia to say that the continuing coverage will continue as soon as she finishes telling that the continuing coverage will continue

[crickets]

73. Garcia re whistleblower complaint

Up to now, no credible complaint had ever been ignored.

[BumRushDaShow]

74. Garcia - reading excerpt from a WH letter (Oct. 8) saying they would not cooperate

(obstruction)

And no claim of privilege was made.

[crickets]

78. Correct - just accusations of partisanship. nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

80. I liked how she pointed out Cipollone signed letter and is here today

[crickets]

82. +1

[Mersky]

75. Slide: pResident tRump Conspired to Conceal Evidence

- Refused to turn over whistleblower complaint
- Issued a blanket order banning all cooperation
- Publicly attacked key witnesses

[Mersky]

76. Slide: pResident tRump's Cover-up Began Early

- July 25th call record placed on highly classified computer system
- Initially kept freeze confidential
- Unlawfully withheld whistleblower complaint from Congress

[in2herbs]

79. Garcia on now. IMO she is doing a fantastic job (so are all the others, too.)

[Mersky]

81. Dang it, MSNBC, shrink that chyron

Blocked the fourth item on the slide of subpoenas. Pretty please?!

[crickets]

83. It sounds like the various departments were willing to cooperate

(as they normally would and should) until Trump interfered and ordered them to refuse.

[gademocrat7]

85. Yes.

Proving that trump and his minions obstructed at every turn.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

84. turned over more to FOIA requests than to House

[crickets]

87. Yet heavily redacted.

Wasn't there a set of redacted e-mails released recently per FOIA request where the unredacted e-mails later were leaked and showed the redactions were unnecessary?

[BumRushDaShow]

86. Garcia is quoting, in disbelief, Pompeo's bullshit assertion about Congressional requests

[BumRushDaShow]

88. Garcia - "If it can be any worse, it is."

re: Sondland not allowed to have access to any of his notes or emails, etc., relevant to the Congressional records request.

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Garcia has concluded and has now handed off to Zoe Lofgren.

[BumRushDaShow]

90. Lofgren noting that even Nixon allowed his staff to testify

[BumRushDaShow]

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