****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/24/20 THREAD 4****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212904989
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212905529
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212905989

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Adam Schiff is now up for the last segment of their presentation

[elleng]

4. and he's EXHAUSTED!

You too, BRDS???

[BumRushDaShow]

5. He is, Jeffries was struggling despite his passion

and I know *I* am operating on vapors.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

25. you deserve a medal

I don't know how you get those links and everything up so fast and consistent.

Thank you for ALL of this!

[BumRushDaShow]

27. Thank you

Have lots of tabs running and start setting up the next one when the current thread gets to around 75 replies.

[better]

109. Well you have managed it admirably, thank you!

[spooky3]

33. He's amazing. This presentation is so good, despite his exhaustion. Thank you, Cong. Schiff. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Schiff is now going to recap how they got to where they are now

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3. Schiff ticking through each item and noting that these things have been "proved"

[Mersky]

6. Schiff: tRump "solicited the interference of a foreign government in the 2020 election.

That has been proved.”

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And that’s one of the offenses, that has been proved.

[H2O Man]

7. Recommended.

Adam Schiff is great. I am so impressed!

[Mersky]

8. Now laying out the obstruction offenses

That have been proved.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. His first list addressed Article I that were "proved" & now Article II list that have been "proved"

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Emphasizing that Article II is just as important as Article I

[Mersky]

15. "If there is no Article II, there will never be an Article I."

Is a powerful argument he’s making.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. It is.

It basically would be the breakdown of the co-equal branches.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Schiff: "Justice delayed is justice denied"

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Schiff: "You can game the system for years"

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Now Schiff is going through ALL the GOP talking points that will be their arguments

[hlthe2b]

14. Glad to see that.. Of course they will still use them for the next three days, but...

[BumRushDaShow]

17. The question is whether they have enough prepared to go that many days.

[hlthe2b]

20. Yeah... I wonder about that as well

[SergeStorms]

31. Cutting the rethuglicans off at the knees.

It'll be difficult gaining traction with their usual lame-ass excuses now.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. "Like a monarch - he is the state"

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Schiff - their argument about the process - "Don't look at what the president did"

[BumRushDaShow]

21. GOP argument about Schiff mocking - "for a man who mocks other people - he's got a pretty thin skin"

[Mersky]

24. Heard some murmurings of laughter in the chamber

Twice during those points.

[Mersky]

22. It is not the pResident's place to tell us how to conduct impeachment proceedings

No more than it’s his place to tell you how to conduct a trial in the Senate.

(Paraphrased that)

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Look for "attacks" - on the managers, on other House members, on the Speaker

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. Schiff is magnificent. I am in awe.

[nolabear]

29. Ain't it the truth.

[Pachamama]

41. [phone]

Completely agree

[nolabear]

28. I've longed for this. Preempt their attacks.

They're predictable and ridiculous, only used to distract and badger.

[PlanetBev]

30. I love this pre-emptive strike in his closing statement

Schiff calling out the Republican’s bullshit ahead of time is pure genius. I love this man. Proud to be a Democrat and a Californian. He represents a district about 45 minutes east of me.

[Glimmer of Hope]

32. This is delicious. Hehehe...

[PlanetBev]

36. I second that, Glimmer

It’s a fucking Vegas buffet...

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Schiff - another argument "They hate the President"

"I only hate what he as done to this country. I grieve for what he has done to this country"

[Mersky]

35. The whistleblower! You'll hear it from sekulow.

Lol, ha. Call them out, Schiff!

...

But for the whistleblower he wouldn’t have gotten caught.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Invoking Ghouliani's "report" that has been threatened to be released

[Mersky]

43. I totally was like this when I heard that:

and startled the cat

[nolabear]

38. And he calls out the "Smear the Bidens" tactic!!!

I swear they give me hope.

[slingsam]

39. Representative Adam Schiff is my William Shakespeare

He does have a way with words....but he has an amazing way with facts.

Cipillone and Sekulow should be done by 11AM

[Lonestarblue]

40. Schiff and the other impeachment managers have done an amazing job.

And in any other environment, a rapid conviction should follow. This Republican Senate, however, prefers utter corruption to preserving democracy. I suspect that McConnell has promised them re-election by whatever means needed if they stick with him. I think the impeachment managers know that Republicans are not listening—they are playing to a broader audience of November voters. I just hope enough voters are paying attention.

[gademocrat7]

42. Chairman Schiff is spot on again tonight.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. You'll hear - "Obama did it!"

[Mersky]

45. The cat is done with me for now.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. LOL

[BumRushDaShow]

46. They'll say - "The call was perfect" and "Ukraine thinks the call was perfect"

[Mersky]

47. Gosh, he's good at this.

Schiff! Yay!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

48. You'll hear - "The President says there's no quid pro quo!"

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49. You'll hear - "No harm no foul". "They got the meeting!"

[BumRushDaShow]

50. Schiiff: "You get no pass when you're caught"

[Mersky]

51. The well know defense: if the defendant said he didn't do it,

then he couldn’t have done it.

(audible laughter in the chamber)

[Pachamama]

52. Just heard lots of laughter from Senate...

What exactly was that in response to?

[Mersky]

59. I think that was for what I posted in comment #51

Are the loudest chuckles I’ve heard thus far.

[bullwinkle428]

53. Chump will need a brand new gold toilet designed after tonight -

to accommodate all of the new assholes that Adam Schiff is in the process of tearing him!

[Blaukraut]

54. Jeez, Adam. Don't go giving them ideas they haven't thought of yet! n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

56. Everything he has said is what they have already argued

either in their House rebuttals and on TV.

[LiberalFighter]

101. That was my thought too.

They didn't have a choice. But Sekolow and others had poor strategy.

[BumRushDaShow]

102. They made a decision to take the job

when no intellectually astute lawyer would have touched this case with a 10ft pole.

It was to the point where even Dershowitz has gone around on the media claiming that he "wasn't part of the President's legal team" and that he was just there as what is basically an "expert witness" (on the Constitution).

[BumRushDaShow]

55. Schiff - their argument "If you didn't see it, then it couldn't have happened"

[H2O Man]

57. He's quoting RFK!

[BumRushDaShow]

60. And he has been referencing him!

[elleng]

58. Moral courage is a rarer quality than bravery in battle.

[Mersky]

61. Missed the full lead up, but I heard another round of chuckling in the chamber

[BumRushDaShow]

62. Schiff quoted CBS news report about "Vote against your President or your head will be on a pike"

[dweller]

65. i wish

😜

✌🏼

i know you meant 'and' not 'or'

[gademocrat7]

69. He is incredible.

[nolabear]

63. YAAASSSSS!! Calling out the "Your head will be on a pike" statement!

My GOD he's good.

And the staff is magnificent!!!

[Mersky]

67. Yes.

So glad he raised that from today’s reporting.

[Mersky]

64. "Real political courage doesn't come from disagreeing with our enemies,

It comes from disagreeing with our friends.”

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That comment gave me chills.

[elleng]

66. Railsback

Goldwater and Baker

[BumRushDaShow]

68. Schiff is mermorilizing GOP former Judicary Comm. member Railsback who just died

(where he was part of the House inquiry for Nixon)

[UniteFightBack]

76. Who was he just talking about now about the President he thinks is the most interesting....nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

90. Lincoln

[BumRushDaShow]

71. Schiff just invoked Roberts - who should be able to rule on witnesses

where the Senate would still have the power to overrule him.

[BumRushDaShow]

72. "Those who want the blessings of freedom must endure the fatigue of supporting it"

(quoting Thomas Payne)

[Mersky]

73. How often do you get to over rule a Supreme Court justice?

(laughter in the chamber)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

92. a legislator's dream!

[Mersky]

99. Yes, aha, the further punchline! Thanks for adding that in here!

What’s gotten me is how genuine the laughter has been.
The timing of it... from quiet and demurring to earnest belly chuckling. They were listening.

[nolabear]

74. Can Dem Senators give Schiff a standing O when he's done?

Because, DAMN.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Russia has a constitution. It's not a bad constitution, it's just a meaningless one.

"Russia has trial by telephone. Do we have "trial by telephone"?

[femmedem]

80. That was a particularly great quote. N/t

[BumRushDaShow]

89. It's basically invoking this -

[elleng]

77. 'Give America a fair trial.'

[BumRushDaShow]

78. Schiff conclusion - "Give America a fair trial. Give her a fair trial. She's worth it"

[blogslut]

79. I'm on the verge of tears

Adam Schiff is fighting, pleading for America.

[gademocrat7]

84. So am I

[Blaukraut]

88. Verge? I'm blubbering. Was last night, too.

I'm worn out, sad, in despair, and still, Adam Schiff manages to give me that little glimmer of hope.

[Mersky]

81. Trial by telephone in Russia

I had no idea, whoa.

He’s basically asking them, do you really want to be like Russia?
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That segment also gave me chills.

[Pachamama]

87. Trial by phone call with Trump

Whoa

[Mersky]

94. Yikes, is the stuff of nightmares

I think of the Russian legal code as fitting roughly in the same amount of space as my set of Harry Potter books. And have been appalled at the lenient sentences for domestic violence, etc. I hadn’t heard about the trial by telephone aspect.

[nolabear]

82. Ladies and Gentlemen...Adam Schiff and The House Managers.

We are lucky as hell to have them.

[gademocrat7]

106. Yes we are!

They are simply the best.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

83. whew! what a closing, Mr. Schiff!

May it stir a few cold, cold hearts.

[BumRushDaShow]

85. ***NOW ADJOURNED UNTIL SATURDAY AT 10 AM ET***

(and I ain't covering that... )

[Lonestarblue]

95. Thank you so much for your work the last three days.

Your summaries and clios really helped me keep up when I could not watch. Go pour yourself a great glass of wine!

[BumRushDaShow]

97. You are welcome and hope it was helpful!

Been there done that during the Clinton impeachment and wanted to be able to watch this "live, gavel to gavel" now that I am retired and have the time.

[dweller]

104. just in time

for saturday morning cartoons 😜

fitting
✌🏼

[BumRushDaShow]

105. LOL

I think it was Tweety earlier this evening mentioning something that everyone knows - Saturday is one of television's "least watched" days of the week!

[ancianita]

86. "She is worth it."

[flamingdem]

108. I know right

[BumRushDaShow]

91. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING

(I won't be able to do this tomorrow)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

93. Thank YOU, and you deserve some rest!

[BumRushDaShow]

96. I most certainly do!

[Mersky]

98. Thank you, BumRushDaShow!

Get some rest! You deserve it!

You are so good at this!

[BumRushDaShow]

100. And thank YOU for contributing and getting those additional quotes in!

[Mersky]

103. Ah, shucks, you make it easy

Get some rest, friend.

[beveeheart]

107. Thank you so much.

I watched as much as I could which was a lot, but relied on you to catch me up when I couldn't.