Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:28 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

* Senate Impeachment Live Thread 2 - 1/25 *

Live Thread 1: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212908351

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***** Senate Impeachment Live Thread 2 - 1/25 ***** (Original post)	Mersky	Jan 2020	OP
Boy for all the attacks on Schiff's appearance this Philbin guy makes Jared look like a tough guy	underpants	Jan 2020	#1
They are now claiming Trump had a good reason for	madaboutharry	Jan 2020	#2
So Philbin is assigned to do the "process" argument	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#3
Criticizing the House "process" with "only by a vote of the House," prebutted by Schiff last night.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#4
Brilliant real time debunking by the House Intel Committee on Twitter.	nolabear	Jan 2020	#5
THIS IS BRILLIANT!	Mike 03	Jan 2020	#13
Not only has there not been an Oval Office meeting, but 45 told Zelensky when they met at the UN	mnhtnbb	Jan 2020	#14
Cool.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#72
Philbin went for a walk in the woods there	underpants	Jan 2020	#6
So an old rule "about a vote by the full House" overrides the Constitution, in this argument.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#7
There was a vote to initiate the intel committee	underpants	Jan 2020	#10
?? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The Intel Committee is a standing committee.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#20
I meant to initiate the Impeachment hearing	underpants	Jan 2020	#23
I'm just waiting for one of his folksy witticisms given in monotone voice	Mersky	Jan 2020	#8
He acts like there was NEVER a vote by the full house. That's bullshit.	kag	Jan 2020	#9
Thank you.	underpants	Jan 2020	#12
Oh so NOW precedent is important.	kag	Jan 2020	#11
Philburn	Botany	Jan 2020	#15
Lol. philburn.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#21
I only could watch about 3 minutes and that is what I thought his name was.	Botany	Jan 2020	#24
From what I read about reals regarding subpoenas...	LiberalFighter	Jan 2020	#79
I'm sure that Philbin knows that his argument is specious but he is not bothered by that or is ...	Botany	Jan 2020	#81
Is he sure he's gonna get paid? By Dump?	cp	Jan 2020	#82
+1	Botany	Jan 2020	#86
This whole argument is maddening.	kag	Jan 2020	#16
They took the ball and went home. Now they haz sad they forfeited the game.	underpants	Jan 2020	#28
Is there a baby in there or has 45 shown up?	nolabear	Jan 2020	#17
Well, if nothing else people will be bored to death and tune out.	nolabear	Jan 2020	#18
F it	dweller	Jan 2020	#19
In Ukraine, I think.	kag	Jan 2020	#22
That's hilarious. I love DU humor as much as DU knowledge.	ALBliberal	Jan 2020	#30
Yup. DU keeps me sane. n/t	kag	Jan 2020	#41
Still waiting for someone to explain why Trump	procon	Jan 2020	#25
Ugh.	kag	Jan 2020	#26
Dear trump lawyers...Government Accountability Office - the White House broke the Law...	spanone	Jan 2020	#27
Here it is, the whistleblower shell game of 'who's the one with integrity'	Mersky	Jan 2020	#29
Not watching, but judging by this thread, Schiff hit all their defense arguments	Blaukraut	Jan 2020	#31
Okay that was complete BS about the whistleblower meeting Schiff's staff	underpants	Jan 2020	#32
Cippy cup - "Good news - just a few more minutes" from us	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#33
How is it relevant that the Mueller investigation cost $32 million.	kag	Jan 2020	#34
Did he just say Chairman Schiff-ty?	Botany	Jan 2020	#35
The impeachment environment	melm00se	Jan 2020	#36
The GOP is not even "pounding the table" absent both the law or the facts!	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#38
More polishing the turd than pounding the table from the little I have seen.	yellowcanine	Jan 2020	#51
And trying	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#58
Um, exactly who on the Democratic side pounded the table?	hedda_foil	Jan 2020	#54
never said who was	melm00se	Jan 2020	#67
You didn't say who you meant so I asked you to make any Dems in that category.	hedda_foil	Jan 2020	#71
I can't believe that he is going over the WH invitations to meet	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#37
Yeah he also talked about a meeting in Poland that didn't happen either	underpants	Jan 2020	#43
OMG! There was a hurricane????	kag	Jan 2020	#39
the sharpie hurricane forecast map ...	dweller	Jan 2020	#40
Was that the same Hurricane ?	underpants	Jan 2020	#45
Yes. Was Dorian.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#52
Thanks	underpants	Jan 2020	#60
me either	dweller	Jan 2020	#53
Is a reeeal strong point they made, isn't it?!	Mersky	Jan 2020	#66
Over and done	malaise	Jan 2020	#42
And that was that. Less than 2 hours	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#44
Felt a lot longer	underpants	Jan 2020	#50
It felt like that because they talked so slowly	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#56
Oh no, the pResident couldn't go to Poland because hurricane, aka golfing	Mersky	Jan 2020	#46
If the Rs intended to make an impact with today's testimony they failed miserably. nt	in2herbs	Jan 2020	#47
*ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY UNTIL 1:00PM ET MONDAY JAN. 27,2020*	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#48
Wait, what. Is the clock still running?	C_U_L8R	Jan 2020	#70
No. They go by how much is used up during a "session"	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#77
So Dems had to present into the night across 3 days	C_U_L8R	Jan 2020	#78
No, I don't think it worked that way	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#83
Thanks BRDS!	C_U_L8R	Jan 2020	#84
You are welcome	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#85
Impeachment Cartoon	ariadne0614	Jan 2020	#49
Spookily accurate read.	Mersky	Jan 2020	#55
Thank you Mersky for the threads!!!	BumRushDaShow	Jan 2020	#57
You know you're so very welcome!	Mersky	Jan 2020	#62
Thank you Mersky	underpants	Jan 2020	#59
Thank you for being in here!	Mersky	Jan 2020	#63
Thanks Mersky!	Hermit-The-Prog	Jan 2020	#61
Hi! You're doing your part to make these threads worthwhile!	Mersky	Jan 2020	#64
Ha! missed 'em today ...	Hermit-The-Prog	Jan 2020	#74
Oh gee whiz is it over already. I guess dump got one right that it was a ratings disaster I sure	UniteFightBack	Jan 2020	#65
Thank you, Mersky. Republican argument tracking is the hardest work there is.	ancianita	Jan 2020	#68
Good readers and listeners...	Mersky	Jan 2020	#75
Thank you, Mersky!	gademocrat7	Jan 2020	#69
OMG over before we even woke up on the West Coast	Generic Other	Jan 2020	#73
Am glad you're in here!	Mersky	Jan 2020	#76
Lanksford should know better	uponit7771	Jan 2020	#80

Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:33 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

1. Boy for all the attacks on Schiff's appearance this Philbin guy makes Jared look like a tough guy

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:34 PM

madaboutharry (37,961 posts)

2. They are now claiming Trump had a good reason for

resisting every subpoena and request for documents.

#1: We didn't like the way you issued your subpoenas.
#2: We didn't assert executive privilege because we didn't like
the way you issued your subpoenas.
#3: We didn't like the way you conducted business in the
House. We don't think subcommittees count.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:35 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

3. So Philbin is assigned to do the "process" argument

which was completely debunked the past couple days.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:35 PM

ancianita (26,542 posts)

4. Criticizing the House "process" with "only by a vote of the House," prebutted by Schiff last night.

All this "doesn't make sense" bullshit hyperrationalization on "valid" subpoenas.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:36 PM

nolabear (39,625 posts)

5. Brilliant real time debunking by the House Intel Committee on Twitter.

Link to tweet

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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:41 PM

Mike 03 (16,616 posts)

13. THIS IS BRILLIANT!

(sorry for the caps)

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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:41 PM

mnhtnbb (29,416 posts)

14. Not only has there not been an Oval Office meeting, but 45 told Zelensky when they met at the UN

to work things out himself with Putin.

In other words, no help from me, with your aggressor (because he's my puppet master).

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Response to nolabear (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:49 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

72. Cool.

Thanks for bringing that in. Am sharing it around.

Journaling the House Intel’s realtime debunking of the WH ‘defense’.

Eta: Link to the House Managers press conference after the ‘defense’ team’s appearance. Is another great round of debunking: https://www.c-span.org/video/?468583-1/house-impeachment-managers-hold-news-conference&live

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:36 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

6. Philbin went for a walk in the woods there

It's his review of the house and senate roles and his hypothetical on the Senate having a committee.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:36 PM

ancianita (26,542 posts)

7. So an old rule "about a vote by the full House" overrides the Constitution, in this argument.

What a bullshit line of argument.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

10. There was a vote to initiate the intel committee

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Response to underpants (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

ancianita (26,542 posts)

20. ?? I'm not sure what you're trying to say. The Intel Committee is a standing committee.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:47 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

23. I meant to initiate the Impeachment hearing

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:36 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

8. I'm just waiting for one of his folksy witticisms given in monotone voice

I assure you he will have gotten it from calendar and clock, doug collins.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

9. He acts like there was NEVER a vote by the full house. That's bullshit.

They just don't like WHEN it was.

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Response to kag (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

12. Thank you.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

11. Oh so NOW precedent is important.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

Botany (63,839 posts)

15. Philburn

So the full house has to vote before a committee can issue a subponea? When did that become a law?

And since the DoJ aka Bill Barr rejected everything from the House Committee
so everybody in the White House is above the law?

*******

BTW they can't argue the facts of the case so all they can do is make process
arguments.

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Response to Botany (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

21. Lol. philburn.

And they used the subpoena rules instituted by the republicans when they were in the majority.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:49 PM

Botany (63,839 posts)

24. I only could watch about 3 minutes and that is what I thought his name was.

He is arguing from the absurd but he looks good doing it. These motherfuckers are working
for the destruction of democracy in America.

The Rude Pundit summed it up very nicely.
"And, frankly, Republicans are more obsessed with 2016 now than Democrats are because they know, they fucking know, that Trump's victory is illegitimate and they have to do everything in their power to not let that fact become viral."

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Response to Botany (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:27 PM

LiberalFighter (43,702 posts)

79. From what I read about reals regarding subpoenas...

Committees vote on them. Not the full House.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #79)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:36 PM

Botany (63,839 posts)

81. I'm sure that Philbin knows that his argument is specious but he is not bothered by that or is ...

... paid more than enough that he can sleep @ night. And all the republican senators know that
argument is specious too and they know that Trump is guilty as hell but so many of them are so
deep into the corruption that they don't care and or will vote to acquit out of self defense.

The Rude Pundit has already summed it all up nicely.
"And, frankly, Republicans are more obsessed with 2016 now than Democrats are because they know, they fucking know, that Trump's victory is illegitimate and they have to do everything in their power to not let that fact become viral."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212904164

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Response to Botany (Reply #81)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:02 PM

cp (4,339 posts)

82. Is he sure he's gonna get paid? By Dump?

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Response to cp (Reply #82)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:28 PM

Botany (63,839 posts)

86. +1

n/t

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

16. This whole argument is maddening.

He makes it sound like "if they had just done it right, we would have gladly handed over all the stuff they asked for." Which is bullshit.

The documents the House asked for are important. So if the Senate now asks for them, are they gonna just hand them all over?

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Response to kag (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:50 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

28. They took the ball and went home. Now they haz sad they forfeited the game.

Too bad. He's been impeached.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

nolabear (39,625 posts)

17. Is there a baby in there or has 45 shown up?

Lots of “Wah!” For a second.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

nolabear (39,625 posts)

18. Well, if nothing else people will be bored to death and tune out.

These guys are really awful.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

dweller (20,500 posts)

19. F it

it's got to be 5:00 somewhere

✌🏼

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Response to dweller (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:46 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

22. In Ukraine, I think.

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Response to kag (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:52 PM

ALBliberal (1,840 posts)

30. That's hilarious. I love DU humor as much as DU knowledge.

Truly my light in the (s@@t) storm.

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Response to ALBliberal (Reply #30)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:01 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

41. Yup. DU keeps me sane. n/t

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:49 PM

procon (15,805 posts)

25. Still waiting for someone to explain why Trump

withheld the money and then tried to cover it up by ordering everyone not to to talk about it or inform Ukraine.

This is pitiful!

So far all I'm hearing is a tirade about burden sharing which isn't in the articles of impeachment. It's a distraction at best. They can't actually discuss the facts because Trump is guilty so we have this slow motion crawl of Trumpian talking points to fill up their designated airtime.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:49 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

26. Ugh.

The whistleblower didn't "start all of this." The orange menace did.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:50 PM

spanone (130,704 posts)

27. Dear trump lawyers...Government Accountability Office - the White House broke the Law...

London (CNN)In the months since news broke that the Trump administration temporarily withheld $400 million in military aid to Ukraine, the report on Thursday by the Government Accountability Office that the White House broke the law by its actions will rank as one of the biggest bombshells.

While there are no criminal penalties from the GAO ruling, it will certainly invigorate the Democrats' efforts to hold President Donald Trump and his accomplices accountable for their repugnant behavior. The process for Trump's impeachment trial in the Senate began Thursday with the presentation of the articles of impeachment.

The GAO ruling will also force the White House further into crisis mode. It is difficult to keep count of the number of times that many among us assumed there was enough solid evidence to turn the legal and political tide against Trump. But each time it looked like the administration was pushed to the edge of the cliff, it has managed to slip away in the court of public opinion.

But we may be getting to the point where even the Teflon President can't wriggle free.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/opinions/trump-gao-report-bombshell-military-aid-ukraine-illegal-bociurkiw/

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:51 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

29. Here it is, the whistleblower shell game of 'who's the one with integrity'

Good grief, they love to manufacture boogeymen out of good guys.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:52 PM

Blaukraut (5,545 posts)

31. Not watching, but judging by this thread, Schiff hit all their defense arguments

in his prebuttal last night. Every single one!

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:53 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

32. Okay that was complete BS about the whistleblower meeting Schiff's staff

"The whistleblower was given some guidance"

Schiff's staff stepped back and said "You need to get a lawyer" and got the hell away.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

33. Cippy cup - "Good news - just a few more minutes" from us

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

34. How is it relevant that the Mueller investigation cost $32 million.

Taxpayers have spent waaaayyyy more than that on Trump's fucking golf trips.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

Botany (63,839 posts)

35. Did he just say Chairman Schiff-ty?

I have to turn it off. The whistleblower's actions and his or her I.D. is protected by law.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:57 PM

melm00se (4,556 posts)

36. The impeachment environment

and behavior reminds me of this quote

If you’re weak on the facts and strong on the law, pound the law.
If you’re weak on the law and strong on the facts, pound the facts.
If you’re weak on both, pound the table.

There are people on both sides of this issue who can be slotted in each of these categories.

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Response to melm00se (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

38. The GOP is not even "pounding the table" absent both the law or the facts!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:05 PM

yellowcanine (35,050 posts)

51. More polishing the turd than pounding the table from the little I have seen.

And it is still a turd. Silk purse, sow's ear also comes to mind.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #51)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:17 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

58. And trying

to put more lipstick on that pig!

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Response to melm00se (Reply #36)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:07 PM

hedda_foil (15,763 posts)

54. Um, exactly who on the Democratic side pounded the table?

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Response to hedda_foil (Reply #54)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:38 PM

melm00se (4,556 posts)

67. never said who was

in each category.

This is not a perfect quote but it just sums up the way I see people behaving.

It should be noted that I think that there should be a 4th category:

When you are strong on the law and strong the facts, your opponent is well and truly fucked.

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Response to melm00se (Reply #67)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:49 PM

hedda_foil (15,763 posts)

71. You didn't say who you meant so I asked you to make any Dems in that category.

You've inserted a slur on Dems as well as repukes by claiming that both sides did it. I challenge you to name one including a specific example of how they just pounded the table.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:58 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

37. I can't believe that he is going over the WH invitations to meet

but the point WAS that Zelensky has STILL NOT HAD the "Oval Office meeting".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #37)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:01 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

43. Yeah he also talked about a meeting in Poland that didn't happen either

Wow. A null set argument.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:00 PM

kag (3,715 posts)

39. OMG! There was a hurricane????

Ask the people of Puerto Rico how many fucks Trump gives about dealing with hurricanes.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:00 PM

dweller (20,500 posts)

40. the sharpie hurricane forecast map ...

✌🏼

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Response to dweller (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

45. Was that the same Hurricane ?

I just don't know.

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Response to underpants (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:05 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

52. Yes. Was Dorian.

I had to look it up, tbs. Feels like it’s been ten years since the sharpie map.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/04/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama-sharpie-map

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Response to Mersky (Reply #52)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:17 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

60. Thanks

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Response to underpants (Reply #45)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:06 PM

dweller (20,500 posts)

53. me either

would have made for a great graphic though

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Response to dweller (Reply #53)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:38 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

66. Is a reeeal strong point they made, isn't it?!

Lol. They do it to themselves. Pound the table and reference the sharpie gate days.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:01 PM

malaise (244,612 posts)

42. Over and done

Pathetic

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

44. And that was that. Less than 2 hours

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #44)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:04 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

50. Felt a lot longer

But DU was fun as usual.

Cipollone almost went into a Mr. Rogers mode there at the end.

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Response to underpants (Reply #50)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:08 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

56. It felt like that because they talked so slowly

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

46. Oh no, the pResident couldn't go to Poland because hurricane, aka golfing

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/03/politics/donald-trump-golf-hurricane/index.html

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

in2herbs (2,257 posts)

47. If the Rs intended to make an impact with today's testimony they failed miserably. nt

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

48. ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY UNTIL 1:00PM ET MONDAY JAN. 27,2020

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #48)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:43 PM

C_U_L8R (42,173 posts)

70. Wait, what. Is the clock still running?

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #70)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:08 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

77. No. They go by how much is used up during a "session"

And usually at the beginning of the next session, they will inform the parties how much time remains from the allocated time.

Each side was allocated 24 hours to present and Democrats used about 21 hours of the max 24 hours. So far the GOP has used around 2 hours of their 24 hours.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #77)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:11 PM

C_U_L8R (42,173 posts)

78. So Dems had to present into the night across 3 days

and the President's defense can parse it out as long as they like? Apologies, I'm just not grokking why today was just two hours.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #78)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:13 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

83. No, I don't think it worked that way

I think the rules were that each side could spread their "24 hour allocation" of presentations over 3 days, regardless of how many hours of that 24 they would eventually use. So it ended up this way due to when the House Managers started (which was on a Wednesday - but each session started in the afternoon at 1 pm ET and there would be about an hour or so worth of breaks during that time each day) and when they were done, which was yesterday (Friday). The Dem Managers used about 21 hours of the 24 - making for a long 3 days because they were directed to start in the afternoon. So it ended up the GOP would then logically start "the next day" after our side was done, which would be today (Saturday). And since obviously everyone was burnt out, I think everyone agreed that they would make it a short Saturday with just their opening statements.

So the GOP had today, and will have Monday, and Tuesday to use up their 24 hours (they have only used about 2 hours so far), although they probably have nowhere near 24 hours prepared for their presentation.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:17 PM

C_U_L8R (42,173 posts)

84. Thanks BRDS!

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #84)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:18 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

85. You are welcome

Hopefully what I wrote sortof makes sense because I am still operating on vapors today.

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:03 PM

ariadne0614 (1,243 posts)

49. Impeachment Cartoon

https://m.imgur.com/r/PoliticalHumor/yxRvMgn

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:07 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

55. Spookily accurate read.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:09 PM

BumRushDaShow (96,381 posts)

57. Thank you Mersky for the threads!!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #57)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:29 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

62. You know you're so very welcome!

See ya in the live threads sooon!

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:17 PM

underpants (169,609 posts)

59. Thank you Mersky

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Response to underpants (Reply #59)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:32 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

63. Thank you for being in here!

We’ll get through the junk of it, together.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:23 PM

Hermit-The-Prog (19,729 posts)

61. Thanks Mersky!

Just got here, found I've missed the whole thing (breakin my heart), and can now go back and read about all the earthshattering new! improved! exculpatory evidence that was presented.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #61)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:34 PM

Mersky (4,849 posts)

64. Hi! You're doing your part to make these threads worthwhile!

Whether commenting (a lot) or READING. Is all good stuff.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #64)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:53 PM

Hermit-The-Prog (19,729 posts)

74. Ha! missed 'em today ...

Time zone (and sleep) got me today. I thought the first hour would be mostly squawling, so planned to look in about 11 am. Oops. They started at 10 eastern, 9 central and were finished by the time I came to your 2nd thread!

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Response to Mersky (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:36 PM

UniteFightBack (8,231 posts)