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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:26 AM

NY Times 5 Takeaways on Trump and Ukraine From John Bolton's Book

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/john-bolton-trump-book-takeaways.html

* Mr. Trump tied his willingness to release aid to Ukraine on investigations he sought.

* Mr. Trump was at odds with his senior national security officials.

* Mr. Bolton says he talked to Mr. Barr and Mr. Pompeo about Mr. Giuliani.

* Mr. Bolton is willing to testify. The White House doesn’t want him to.

* The manuscript introduced a significant twist to the impeachment trial.

If the Senate does vote to hear from Mr. Bolton, the trial could stretch deep into February.

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And despite overwhelming evidence that Trump sold out his country and his office republican
senators are still gonna let him walk and not call Bolton to testify. They know he is guilty, a
con man, and working for Putin but they don't care.

The Rude Pundit has summed it all up very nicely.

"And, frankly, Republicans are more obsessed with 2016 now than Democrats are because they know, they fucking know, that Trump's victory is illegitimate and they have to do everything in their power to not let that fact become viral."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212904164

Oh well time for me to call Rob Portman's office again.

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Reply NY Times 5 Takeaways on Trump and Ukraine From John Bolton's Book (Original post)
Botany Jan 2020 OP
malaise Jan 2020 #1
czarjak Jan 2020 #2
Botany Jan 2020 #3
Scarsdale Jan 2020 #15
Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #4
2naSalit Jan 2020 #9
Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #16
2naSalit Jan 2020 #17
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #5
Botany Jan 2020 #6
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #7
crickets Jan 2020 #8
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #13
Botany Jan 2020 #21
usaf-vet Jan 2020 #25
2naSalit Jan 2020 #18
Johonny Jan 2020 #10
Botany Jan 2020 #11
2naSalit Jan 2020 #19
irisblue Jan 2020 #12
Botany Jan 2020 #20
grantcart Jan 2020 #22
SpankMe Jan 2020 #14
Bayard Jan 2020 #24
elleng Jan 2020 #23
underpants Jan 2020 #26
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2020 #27
PandoraAwakened Jan 2020 #28

Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:44 AM

1. K & R

Shit be real!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:14 AM

2. Who knew?

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Response to czarjak (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:16 AM

3. "Who knew?"

The White House knew. They have had a copy of Bolton's book for over a month.

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Response to Botany (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:22 AM

15. They must have thought

Donald Jenius tRump was going to read it!! Or even Jenius Jr? In a NORMAL administration, that would have been read by many, many people. Starting with the lawyers. After seeing those lawyers in action I guess that was silly of me to even THINK they would read the manuscript.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:22 AM

4. What manuscript are they referring to in the last point?

The memo on what was said on the call? Or the book manuscript? Or something else?

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:54 AM

9. Pre-release manuscript of Bolton's book.

The WH has had a copy since Dec. 30 last year. They knew what it indicates and still all this bs we have to sit through for 24+ hrs.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:27 AM

16. Thanks. I appreciate the info

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:34 AM

17. No problem, it's hard to keep up! ...nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 AM

5. For those of us living in WI it's important to realize Sen. Ron Johnson WI. Has Ukraine involvement.

See the NYT article for full context:

In the [draft] manuscript of Mr.Bolton's new book he revealed
During a previously reported May 23 meeting where top advisers and Senator Ron Johnson, Republican of Wisconsin, briefed him about their trip to Kyiv for the inauguration of President Volodymyr Zelensky, Mr. Trump railed about Ukraine trying to damage him and mentioned a conspiracy theory about a hacked Democratic server, according to Mr. Bolton.


https://nyti.ms/2vk9mjq

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:35 AM

6. Your Senator Johnson has something in common w/Donald Trump

Russian/Republican Rat F***ing put him back into the Senate in 2016.

Russ Feingold was @ >90% chance of winning his senate race in 2016 and yet
some how he lost and Johnson won. And didn't Johnson spend July 4, 2018
in Moscow too?

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 AM

7. Right on!

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:52 AM

8. +1

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Response to crickets (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:16 AM

13. I would take a bet that Ron Johnson was in the loop about the 2016 election manipulations

that help put Wisconsin's Electoral College votes the Trump column. Meaning he is/was aware of the Russian election interference occurring in Wisconsin.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:01 PM

21. Russia was into Wisconsin @ the county level

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

And no doubt some of the polling data (really advanced data analytics) that Manafort, Gates, and the
Trump campaign passed onto the Russians/Kilimnk was the data Russia needed to micro target states
such as Wisconsin in order to rig the election.

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Response to Botany (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:22 PM

25. You've got it, county level. U & I might be in the minority but I believe we see a bigger picture.

A picture that reveals "expanded hacking" to include all of the voter suppression schemes the GOP has implemented along with the Facebook /Twitter Russian bots and trolls spreading falsehoods to manipulate voter perceptions or what you have called micro-targeting.

Wisconsin was ripe for the picking as this state's the election infrastructure has been manipulated for a GOP advantage (gerrymandering, voter ID, voter suppression) at least since Scott Walker's first term as governor.

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:35 AM

18. Never forget!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:55 AM

10. And according to the witnesses that did testify, Bolton was in the loop on this information

So it is backed up by other evidence. We known Bolton knew what was going on and wanted no part of it.

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Response to Johonny (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:04 AM

11. John Bolton called it a drug deal and quit the Trump administration

WASHINGTON – Former national security adviser John Bolton wanted no part of what he derided as the White House's "drug deal" to pressure Ukraine into investigating Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, a former White House official told congressional investigators on Monday, according to reports of her testimony from The New York Times and NBC News.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/15/john-bolton-decried-ukraine-drug-deal/3983310002/

Right now McConnell is scrambling to get the senate to vote for an acquittal of Trump and shut this thing down
ASAP. He knows Trump is guilty and he doesn't care. "Mitch McConnell is the thief of the nation's soul." Charlie
Pierce

worth the read.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a25956710/mitch-mcconnell-op-ed-voting-bill-democrats/

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Response to Botany (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:36 AM

19. +++++!!

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:08 AM

12. Portman #1- 202-224-3353, he is chair of the Ukrainian Cmt

Call, ask about this new info

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Response to irisblue (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:55 AM

20. Thanx

Rob's Columbus Office voice mail is full and his D.C. Office's phone goes straight to
voice mail.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:09 PM

22. Ukrainian committee or Ukrainian Caucus?

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:18 AM

14. If Republicans don't allow Bolton or other witnesses,

...then Dems should read the relevant passages from Bolton's book into the record and declare it as evidence.

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Response to SpankMe (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:20 PM

24. I'm no lawyer, BUT..

I think that would qualify as hearsay.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 PM

26. Yeah but aside from that

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 01:47 PM

27. Demand that Russiapublicans hear Bolton's testimony.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:44 PM

28. K&R! n/t

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