****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 3****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212915852
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212916276

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Drumpf attorney Jane Raskin is continuing the defense and has focused on Ghouliani

[crickets]

2. Apparently Dems have portrayed Rudy's behavior in an unfair context.

Unfair, I tell you.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Yes! They pounded the table even!!1111!!!!

[bdamomma]

25. that proves it right there

no truth no facts.

[Karma13612]

86. Yea, she said there was shouting and table

Pounding.

I only recall the likes of Devin (Chalupa!!!) Nunes and Gym (shorts but no jacket) Jordan doing some yelling. Oh heavens, can’t forget Doug (this chair sucks) Collins as either!

They are so flipping hypocritical.

[malaise]

7. She just quoted that debunked Conspiracy Theory pushed by that

Solomon guy from The Hill

[GoCubsGo]

26. Hey GOP! Rudy isn't the one on trial here.

How about defending Fat Bastard, who is the actual subject here? Oh, wait! You can't.

[dpibel]

3. Is this finally Rudy's underbussing?

She quotes Volker saying he thought Giuliani was pursuing his own ends, not those of our pure leader.

[dchill]

4. Jane anti-Raskin.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

6. In her ghouliani can do no wrong

Will she mention all this evidence he claims (and was already ) supposed to have been made public on Biden illegal activity???!

[crickets]

13. If only someone could play the latest clip from Fox and Friends...

I got your context right here.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-and-friends-desperately-tries-to-end-rudy-giuliani-interview-repeatedly-fails

[Pachamama]

8. Is Raskiin throwing Ghouliani under the bus?

[Mossfern]

9. Rudy

As Trumps personal lawyer was investigating foreign investigation in Ukraine. Is that what a personal layer does?
Guiliani is anything but sparkly, BTW

[BumRushDaShow]

10. Raskin is done and Suckylow is up - to supposedly introduce the next one to discuss "the law"

(as they make it up)

[elleng]

11. 'The Law,' now.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. And now Patrick Philbin is up to supposedly discuss "the law"

[H2O Man]

51. I'm trying to remember

who this charismatic, dynamic powerhouse reminds me of. I think it was Ed Sullivan's assistant in the movie "The Doors."

[BumRushDaShow]

66. Fred Rogers

(not to insult Rogers)

[H2O Man]

95. I'm not sure .....

I am only somewhat familiar with him, by reputation. But my impression is that he was honest, and could be trusted around children.

[at140]

60. Philbin sounds like some of my professors in college

He is speaking slowly and deliberately.

[Mersky]

14. Whoa. Up is down, black is white, Clarence Darrow had rudy in mind.

That was some ministry of truth shit.

[Kali]

15. evil lawyer Bill Nye

[Mersky]

18. LOL

Lays waste to truth through his powers of monotone voice.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. WTF is he talking about

The courts did NOT tell the House HOW to do their business.

NO. Committees do NOT have to have the full House vote on a subpoena.

[crickets]

22. What utter BS now about right to counsel and cross examination

The House had no recourse to a special investigator, and so had to do its own investigations. Witnesses were deposed behind closed doors to keep them from lining up their stories. Both parties were allowed to be present as members of appropriate committees, and the witnesses all had access to counsel. Of course the president was excluded. This was not the time for any of the other BS he's talking about and this earnest little jackhole knows that.

Blatant lies like this ought to get you censured for ethics violations at the very least.

[and again, the main argument is just, 'unfair!!']

[Karma13612]

96. You nailed it.

They keep repeating this same defense to make sure all of Trump’s base hears it at some point.

Guess since it’s Roberts’ birthday, he’s going to give the defense a break on lies in a court room.

[hedda_foil]

17. Wow! The law part is just as limp if not limper than the constitutional stuff.

This is beyond nonsensical.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. It's not just "limp". It's completely bogus.

[crickets]

28. How this fellow does not expire of embarrassment, I will never understand.

It takes a special talent to bulldoze this many lies at the people. Certainly no conscience there.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. I think that was an old clip

of Nadler.

[Mersky]

24. Was it? I couldn't exactly tell. I thought it was scalia?

[crickets]

30. It was Nadler.

I was surprised too. I didn't realize he was that heavy in the past.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. He mentioned Nadler's name after the clip got gummed up.

Nadler has lost quite a bit of weight over the past couple years.

[Mersky]

36. Ah, heck, okay

I was up and down from the tv when that came up. Was really wanting to rip on scalia. I’m gonna take a five minute break to eh, try to sync back in. Thanks for clearing that up.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Thankfully I don't think CSPAN2 put up any pic of Scalia when the name came up earlier.

[Karma13612]

103. Wow, I guess so!😮

You can see he still has a bit of weight around his mid section. But, man thats a big difference.

Good for him, he might have lengthened his life by losing that much.

[bdamomma]

23. You have a strong stomach

BumRushDaShow, you should get a medal for putting yourself through the lies.

[Mossfern]

27. So he's making the case

for calling witnesses - right?

I don't know this, can some one tell me how Trump was "locked out?"

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

31. Smoke and mirrors

Period

[Kali]

34. you have to have blinders on and your lips attatched to an orange butt cheek to understand

it's all

[crickets]

35. This level of projection is actually making the Democrats' case in some spots.

It's surreal.

[Kali]

29. blah blah blah due process

um... you got your due process right here and now, please proceed!

[Iliyah]

33. They have no defense . . .

sad.

[crickets]

37. Since when does the OMB tell the House how to

handle an impeachment investigation?

Since when does the Office of Legal Counsel get to make up new rules about who can and cannot ignore a subpoena? [This one's rhetorical. Kinda.]

[BumRushDaShow]

42. It's the UNITARY EXECUTIVE

In other words, a "dictatorship".

[crickets]

48. Gotcha. I thought I smelled Bill Barr in there somewhere. nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. omg claiming committees not authorized!

Even an asshole of a lawyer should understand "sole power of impeachment" and "may determine the rules of its proceedings".

[BumRushDaShow]

40. I really hope that someone can get thousands of lawyers to sign a letter

to completely destroy these idiots.

They are truly doing a disservice to all the history, government, and legal teaching community who will have to do a Yoda on the students when trying to explain this bullshit that is going on right now -

[crickets]

50. I do not envy Con law professors right now.

On the other hand, what better teaching aid than tearing apart this bull patooty?

[BumRushDaShow]

54. That would be the perfect exercise and assignment

Go look up the past precedent and the (bullshit) "theories" that were proffered today, and compare and contrast.

[ooky]

41. This is the old practice of baffling them with bullshit. I would dare any Magat

to repeat this argument back.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

45. name change needed: Phildabinwidbullshit

[elleng]

72. ZACLY!!!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. only PBS left locally while Full-o-bull Philbin natters on

[Kali]

44. listing all the ways they obstructed

good job, evil Bill Nye, the lying guy

[BumRushDaShow]

46. This idiot has yet to say that Drumpf did NOT assert "Executive Privilege"

THAT is the problem here.

Ordering NO ONE to testify is NOT the same as "asserting Executive Privilege".

[nolabear]

47. I was out for a while. Did he say something about negotiating testimony?

May I assume he didn’t mean Bolton?

[Kali]

49. as it related to their stupid claim of no due process

during the House investigation

[nolabear]

52. They're going to hurt themselves twisting like that.

[Kali]

55. sure hope so

and in the end I am sure it will, the problem is will it happen soon enough?

[BumRushDaShow]

53. And his talking about "agency lawyers"

YES agency lawyers are there to advise employees about what they can and cannot discuss when it comes to a hearing (factoring in any "Executive Privilege". We see HUNDREDS of hearings every year where you see this.

But again, the PROBLEM here is that not only was Executive Privilege NOT invoked, but ALL employees were "ordered" not to "testify" AT ALL. So baffling people with bullshit about "agency lawyers" is just filler for something that does not apply.

[crickets]

56. I swear the last slide was essentially saying on behalf of Trump

"You can't punish meeee! It's not allowed!"

Wacky.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

57. did Phul-a-bull just say the founding was in 1796?

[crickets]

64. Yes, he did.

That was the date of Washington's farewell address, not the founding, (1776 declaration/1783 independence) so I think somebody got his dates mixed up.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

69. 1796 twas the 3rd presidential election. he brain-deaded his own silly self.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

58. gee 3 years in is "jumping straight to impeachment"?

[hlthe2b]

59. It is 4:15 ET right now. Anyone know about how long until the next break?

[blaze]

62. I *think* I heard 'til 6pm. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

61. The House becomes supreme

YES DUMBASS - For ITS role. THAT is what "CHECK AND BALANCE" means. THAT branch was ALSO "Article I" - THE FIRST. And the Executive was Article II (to make it plain that the PEOPLE were primary) and not to encourage a monarch.

[crickets]

70. Right now I am reading Federalist 51

on the screen about separation of powers and encroachment, and I do not even want to read whatever nonsense is in the closed captions. I think I need a nap.

[BumRushDaShow]

73. I know I need a nap

(law schools, schools of government, and high schools everywhere are gonna have to do some serious damage control)

[Vinca]

63. I've been checking in now and again and have yet to hear any defense.

Are they just racking up billable hours or what? They ought to know by now they won't get paid anyway.

[blaze]

65. There is no defense for trump... so they're attacking the process.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. They aren't just attacking the process

they are actually making shit up - past precedent, Supreme Court decisions, purported "rights" of the President. . :googly

[Vinca]

108. My husband has been wondering why Roberts doesn't say something when stuff like that comes up.

What the heck is he there for? He's like a paperweight that breathes.

[BumRushDaShow]

109. A Senate Impeachment trial is not really like a "court of law"

It was patterned after one but in the case of impeachment, the Chief Justice is there more as a symbolic "impartial judge" to shepherd the process along, replacing the Senate Pro-Tempore (Grassley) in that role, and acting as a "working observer" of the dispute between the Executive and the Legislative.

[Kali]

67. LOL!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

68. distraction from Bolton

[crickets]

71. +1

[Hermit-The-Prog]

74. their basic defense today: We're full of shit so you must acquit.

[BumRushDaShow]

76. Philbin is done with his made up shit. Now Suckylow is up

[BumRushDaShow]

77. They keep saying "Executive Privilege" but Drumpf DID NOT INVOKE IT

They are making stuff up. Ordering employees "not to comply with Congressional subpoenas" is NOT "invoking Executive Privilege". It is OBSTRUCTION.

[Mersky]

82. That's what I was hollering back at the tv

[BumRushDaShow]

91. I heard your hollering

cause it was drowning out mine!!

[Mersky]

106. Good grief, we've heard some hours of lying, spin, and smears from republicans

Today is just next level insulting. These are supposed to be real attorneys?

[BumRushDaShow]

78. And now Florida is in the house - Pam Bondi

[Hermit-The-Prog]

84. bet orange trumPutin is enraged ...

"What's she doing to me? This won't help the ratings! Where's the cleavage? the legs? She's supposed to be the Fox host here!"

[Arkansas Granny]

102. Bought and paid for by Trump years ago.

[crickets]

79. To sum up, they're claiming that Trump is accused of high crimes and midemeanors

just for going to court.

Nice try.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

80. Fox and Friends stepford clone? Oh, it's Bondi, the bribed DA

[pangaia]

81. THAT is PAM BONDI !!!!

Holy shit.. never heard her before, only about her..
My god is she stupid !!!

Can barely read.....

[crickets]

83. She's better at counting.

She can count all the way up to 25,000.

[pangaia]

87. So cazn my 7 year od nephew...

[Eyeball_Kid]

105. Bondi has Trump's money in her pocket.

She got a 20k bribe to back out of a Trump University investigation when she was Florida AG.

[Kali]

85. meow

is she wearing a steel pan scrubber?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

88. LOL! I think you're right!

[MFGsunny]

100. yes

but brillo at least does its job, and well .....

[Mersky]

101. Bwah!

Nailed it.

[Mossfern]

89. Why is she talking about Hunter

how is that relevant?

Waiting with bated breath.

[elleng]

90. 'because'

[crickets]

94. Burisma! Corruption!

It isn't relevant, but she's gonna try her best to be a team player and make it relevant for *checks clock* about another hour or so.

[underpants]

107. Complete nonsense

Just listening in my car shooting down lie after lie

[Mossfern]

92. Ah...

he raised eyebrows.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Here comes the CT

[DeminPennswoods]

97. All the broadcast networks must've cut away after the 1st

break because at 4PM, local news, Ellen and syndicated court shows were on here.

[BumRushDaShow]

98. ****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 4**** UP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212917168

[Mossfern]

99. None of this excuses

any of Trump's actions.

[crickets]

104. No, it doesn't. nt