****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/27/20 THREAD 4****

[BumRushDaShow]

Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212915852
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212916276
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212916812

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Pam Bondi is now speaking and introducing the Biden CT crap

[Mossfern]

2. I would say

that they brought Hunter on board to clean up their act?

[BumRushDaShow]

3. What she won't say

is that Hunter was no longer involved with Burisma after 2014. We are now in 2020 and they are trying to do their Squirrel!!!!!

And she ALSO won't talk about Ivanka and her "conflict of interests" with those Chinese copyrights.

[crickets]

8. You read my mind!

Can we talk about Ivanka and how much money she and her husband have grifted since she 'gave up her life' to the American people?

Can we talk about Jared Kushner, his security clearances, his business conflicts of interest, and his activities in Saudi Arabia?

Oh, if they really want to talk about nepotism, LETS DO.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. This is their "projection"

But by doing so, it basically encourages the media to do their "both sides" and really look into them.

[trueblue2007]

38. Ivanka and her "conflict of interests" with those Chinese copyrights. ERIC & JR keep pulling in $$$$

[H2O Man]

4. Recommended.

This is getting hilarious.

[Mossfern]

5. What does it matter

how much they paid him? Is that illegal?

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

6. Shes setting up the repukes a chance to call hunter biden

They see witness coming

[blaze]

7. Putin must be throwing a party right about now

[Mossfern]

10. Hunter Biden is a private citizen

the US cannot ask another nation to investigation especially if there is no direct threat to the US. If Ukraine wanted to investigate Burisma, it's up to them to decide.

She's not making the case to call Biden as a witness just because there was a perception of a conflict of interest.

[Mersky]

31. +1

[blogslut]

11. Here's the thing, Pam

Your president extorted a foreign government in trade for a demand that they announce an investigation into his political opponent's son. Your president fired and tried to ruin a sitting ambassador so he could get dirt to use in his re-election campaign. Your president obstructed congress to cover up his abuse of power.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. And what you wrote is the HEART of the case

[crickets]

14. **applause**

[Efilroft Sul]

15. A simply beautiful summation for why we are here.

[nolabear]

12. Just got back. My God she's tryin HB. And this is shallow but

she dressed for the boss.

[Mossfern]

16. Looks like

one of Ivanka's designs.

[lpbk2713]

17. She can't take her eyes up from her notebook.

Someone else prepared what she is supposed to say.

She only reads a few lines and then turns the page. They used big type.

Bondi is a clown.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. What SHE doesn't say is that the entirety of Europe wanted Shokin to GO

[Mersky]

29. THIS.

[crickets]

32. Details, details.

Funny coming from the people who complained Dems were looking at Rudy in an unfair context.

[floppyboo]

19. I sure hope she shut's up soon

This is very bad - giving so much air time to 'Biden' - not everyone follows facts too carefully, and she's doing her job - sowing doubt. I feel very bad for anyone who pushed for this trial who supports Joe during this primary.
I am not concern trolling. I really don't see how this pig's ear is going to turn into a silk purse for all the stay-at-home non-voters.
Best wishes to the House Managers - Sincerely!

[BumRushDaShow]

20. The House Managers already pre-warned about the conspiracy theories

that have already been debunked.

[floppyboo]

25. Ya - you heard it, I heard it, but what's going to be repeated and not unseen by millions?

[BumRushDaShow]

30. What is gonna be repeated is BOLTON

Count on it.

[floppyboo]

36. I hope. And I hope they pick up the non-governmental aspect.

All their 'proofs' rely on official statements from official employees. That's not where the dirt is.

[crickets]

53. +1

[madaboutharry]

21. She is unfamiliar with what she is reading.

It sounds like this is the first time she’s reading it.

They want it both ways. The hold on aid had nothing to do with the Bidens. Oh, look at what a bad thing Hunter Biden did!

[Grammy23]

44. My impression, too.

She stumbled over some passages and lost her place several times. Rarely looked up from her notebook. She didn’t write what she was reading and didn’t bother practicing it. She’s a real asset to the team, but the question is — what is she adding??

[blaze]

22. House Intel responds

Link to tweet

White House Claim: VP Biden acted inappropriately

Reality: Trump Admin officials testified Biden was acting as part of US policy, with our allies & bipartisan support

George Kent said the fired prosecutor was corrupt & “covered up crimes that were known to have been committed."

[BumRushDaShow]

23. Bondi is done and Suckylow is up to introduce for their "final presentation" for the day

[elleng]

24. Last before dinner,

a member of the Kasowitz firm, Eric Hirschman.

[ancianita]

26. Wikipedia says one of Bondi's biggest contributors is Scientology, based in Clearwater. 45 also

paid her off not to prosecute him over his "university." 45's whole team is morally, ethically compromised. Talk about quid pro quo!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

27. somebody tell this SQUIRREL hunter the season is not open

[BumRushDaShow]

28. New lawyer - Eric Herschmann (had to dig for it since CSPAN2 hasn't put it up)

(they finally put it up)

[elleng]

33. 'Promoting' a Biden candidacy now.

[crickets]

34. Complaining about the Mueller Report price tag...

how much did they spend on Benghazi? On hounding the Clintons, especially Hillary, over the past decades? Hillary was exonerated every time.

And just for the heck of it:
https://www.wonkette.com/bill-barr-drew-dicks-all-over-mueller-report-but-lets-liveblog-it-anyway

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

35. BIDENGAZZI

These idiots are just pumping smoke up humpers ass and performing for the orange idiot.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. Their stupid argument is the look over there

while this goes on in plain sight -

[dweller]

40. are those hamberders

in the foreground ?

✌🏼

[BumRushDaShow]

41. There's also some covfefe there too!

[crickets]

42. All that wasted blank paper. Just props. nt

[Kali]

45. this!

[nolabear]

39. It's The House! It's Hunter Biden! It's Burisma!!!!

Christ on a pogo stick.


And they DARE to go after HB for not disclosing income.

[Mossfern]

43. Wasn't the corruption in Ukraine

related to Russia?

[BumRushDaShow]

50. The guy who was in there before Zelensky (Poroschenko)

was on the list of the many folks found in both the -

Panama Papers - https://www.webcitation.org/6gVXG3LvI?url=https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/overview/intro/

Paradise Papers - https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/paradise-papers-exposes-donald-trump-russia-links-and-piggy-banks-of-the-wealthiest-1-percent/

[crickets]

55. THIS! Oh, if only we could open those cans of worms.

Panama Papers and Deutsche Bank, oh my. There's some serious corruption with Putin and Donny in it up to their necks.

[BumRushDaShow]

59. At least one of the House Committees was already working on that

and were originally attempting to piggy back onto the NY State subpoena for Drumpf's *state* income tax returns. The judge threw out the suit from Drumpf against that House Committee where they were trying to preemptively sue to keep the House from gaining access to those returns from the accounting firm - Mazars I think? (and the Committee hadn't requested anything yet). But they know it's coming.

[C_U_L8R]

73. And the Bank of Cyprus

and right back to the Trumps and Russia

[nolabear]

46. I can't wait til the break to hear the commentary on this.

What a shitshow. I’m trying to think who could say something scathing enough.

[PatSeg]

56. I fell asleep for awhile

What a snoozefest.

[Mossfern]

47. They couldn't get Zelinsky to do the investigation

so now they're doing the "work" via the trial.

[Mersky]

52. Precisely this right here.

And if Hunter is called to appear, this mountain of bullshit will be brought down to the actual molehill of nothing that it is.

[crickets]

48. *yawn*

Ukraine Prosecutor Says No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Bidens May 16, 2019

Ukraine’s prosecutor general said in an interview that he had no evidence of wrongdoing by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden or his son, despite a swirl of allegations by President Donald Trump’s lawyer.

The controversy stems from diplomatic actions by Biden while his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of Burisma Group, one of the country’s biggest private gas companies. As vice president, Biden pursued an anti-corruption policy in Ukraine in 2016 that included a call for the resignation of the country’s top prosecutor who had previously investigated Burisma.

Yuriy Lutsenko, the current prosecutor general, said that neither Hunter Biden nor Burisma were now the focus of an investigation. He added, however, that he was planning to offer details to U.S. Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could check whether Hunter Biden paid U.S. taxes on the income.

“I do not want Ukraine to again be the subject of U.S. presidential elections,” Lutsenko said in an interview Tuesday in his office in Kiev. “Hunter Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws -- at least as of now, we do not see any wrongdoing. A company can pay however much it wants to its board.” He said if there is a tax problem, it’s not in Ukraine. [snip]

Back in March 2016, [then VP] Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine failed to address corruption and remove its Prosecutor General, Viktor Shokin, who soon after left office amid widespread calls for his dismissal. Though Shokin had begun a probe into Burisma, it was dormant when he departed, according to a former prosecutor.

“At the end of the day, Shokin submitted his own resignation,” Lutsenko said.

[dpibel]

49. "He knew people were listening"

Umm...dude.

The President thought he could crime with people listening because...

wait for it...

THE TRANSCRIPT WAS SECRET UNTIL THE WHISTLEBLOWER BLEW THE WHISTLE.

This is not rocket surgery, gang.

[crickets]

51. The transcript is still secret.

All we got was a paraphrased memorandum.

[backtoblue]

54. "Be careful what you wish for."

As he looked at the House managers

[Kali]

57. OFFS

Obamaaaaa!!!

[nolabear]

60. A normal judge would not let this continue.

It’s so far outside the scope of the trial it’s insane.

[elleng]

61. JEEEEZE!

[backtoblue]

58. Kick nt

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

62. So screw what trump did and wave around bullshit on a REAL PRESIDENT

Fuck this moron

[BumRushDaShow]

63. Now he really IS way out in left field!!!

[underpants]

75. That was a different galaxy

When he started into it a Saturday d out loud “No! Not the hot mic!” and then he took it through several twists of reality and wormholes of reality.

[Arkansas Granny]

64. Wait a minute. I thought Trump was being impeached, but

apparently it's Obama and Hunter Biden on trial.

[BumRushDaShow]

66. That's all they have.

They can't refute the 21 hours of evidence that was presented last week.

[BumRushDaShow]

65. And now the quick Faux Snooze-style graphics

[asiliveandbreathe]

69. Thank you for all you do BRDS..all they have done, as I preach to the choir...

Connive, deflect, and contrive information - baseless accusations, been debunked 50 ways to Sunday, and they make fools of themselves...but then, they seem to be fools to begin with...

[JHB]

67. Recycled from November. Swap with one or more applicable names

[crickets]

68. Herschmann:

"Do we want the type of government where questions about suspect conduct are suppressed or dismissed as illegitimate because someone is intimidating or screams at... or is just too important? No, that is precisely when an investigation is most important."

What have House Democrats been saying all along?

Oh - He's claiming Biden was screaming and intimidating people re Burisma -- but it sound a lot like someone else we know. Also, this argument that Democrats have one standard of conduct for their own and another for everyone else is classic projection.

Does anyone else remember a comedian named Franklyn Ajaye? Because I am having a "Baby, does your head spin around?" moment right now.

[Iliyah]

77. Then bring witnesses in that claim that assholes . . .

Although this has nada to do with t-rump's impeachment.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. Now he's doing a "free" campaign ad

[nolabear]

71. I swear to God if I was there I'd be roaring with laughter.

This has been incredible. Just madness.

[BumRushDaShow]

72. ****45 MINUTE RECESS FOR DINNER****

[underpants]

74. BDR, I called it. This was going to be talk radio open to the public

I can’t tell you how many WTFs I let out loud during the drive home but this is what’s on the radio all day.

That bit about the Obama hot mic was truly bizarre.

[BumRushDaShow]

76. You know they were desperate when they had to invoke "But Obama"!

[BumRushDaShow]

78. ****BACK IN SESSION****

[elleng]

79. This evening will conclude with dersh, oh great,

gotta be prepared with SOMETHING!

[BumRushDaShow]

81. They want a "prime time" spectacle

But from what I gather, except for PBS, the broadcast networks have already broken away.

[BumRushDaShow]

80. Suckylow gave the schedule for the night and has introduced Robert Ray

[Arkansas Granny]

82. He's awfully fidgety. Watch his hands.

[BumRushDaShow]

86. CSPAN2 has a banner at the bottom of the screen covering his hands

but his whole body is in motion. Definitely can't miss that!

[underpants]

88. Doesn't know how to breathe in a presentation

Never run to an end.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

83. O boy he's defending all the trump voters he says

Stupidity is not a defense.

[femmedem]

84. Ray stating that impeachment properly requires both legal crimes and abuse of the public trust. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

85. Ray is going over the past impeachment history

[underpants]

87. Prime time #5?

Robert Ray can't read very well. He also doesn't know how to breathe while making a presentation.

[Mersky]

90. Yeah, a few mins ago he lectured the room about an often misquoted part of the Federalist Papers

Then garbled the very quote. Lol.

[BumRushDaShow]

91. It's funny that they are doing what they whined that the Democrats had done

[BumRushDaShow]

89. OFFS

They love "changing" the rules. This argument again about "crimes" once again is specious.

[underpants]

92. I am only mentioning FACTS...pure nonsense and fallacies...I am now done giving you the FACTS

oh and since we're on the air - campaign ad material against Biden.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. And especially

that campaign ad material!

[Mersky]

95. Yes, they do love changing rules

Narrow and restrict definitions of offenses til the white collar crime no longer fits the new standards. In this instance, they’re not worming towards the conservatives on the Supreme Court, they’re playing to a room of cowering republican politicians. And the American public will pay for all the folly that ensues.

[BumRushDaShow]

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