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At least 3 children were killed in the helicopter crash that killed nine people. They should have sent the children by car to the game.
Adults can choose to fly by helicopter, not the children. Kobe apparently was used to flying by helicopter - a dangerous vehicle.
Think about your children first!!
Bananaluver
(83 posts)blugbox
(951 posts)It's just that it's never a fender bender with air transport.
unblock
(52,203 posts)over 95% for fixed-wing planes and about 80% for helicopters.
but yeah, a very high percentage of car crashes do not involve fatalities.
MH1
(17,600 posts)It comes down to maintenance and proper piloting.
And sometimes, luck.
They chose to fly in bad fog, but from what I read of how the craft appeared moments before the crash - diving at 45 mph - that would seem to have nothing to do with the fog.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,327 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)Should you keep your children out of cars?
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)I am guessing the pilot was insured/licensed and the victims families will sue for liability.
unblock
(52,203 posts)also not yet clear the pilot did anything wrong, either.
they are investigating,....
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Los Angeles Police Department spokesman Josh Rubenstein confirmed that the department's Air Support division had grounded its helicopters that morning due to foggy conditions.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash-lapd-grounded-their-helicopters-why-was-bryants-chopper-allowed-to-fly/
unblock
(52,203 posts)as the article notes, he might have flown into the mountain due to poor visibility. if that's what happened, then obviously, yes, the fog would have played a major role.
but i haven't heard other possibilities ruled out yet, so it's still possible the fog played no real role.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)A mechanical emergency becomes far more dangerous when you probably shouldn't have been up there in the first place.
Neema
(1,151 posts)What difference does their consent, or lack thereof, make? It's a tragic, horrible accident, but that argument doesn't make a lot of sense. Anyway, cars are far more dangerous than virtually every other mode of transport.
Liberal In Texas
(13,548 posts)Most crashes are caused by human error. Flying in bad weather is not a good idea, but pilots are many times pressured by their bosses or clients to fly when they probably shouldn't. The other cause is mechanical caused by someone making a mistake with repairs or in the case of the recent Hawaiian tour helicopter accident, not having enough fuel.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)everything from corporate executives to news crews. It is a cousin of the military's Blackhawk copters. Like someone pointed out, an investigation is being done, that will answer questions. For the time being, it is a tragedy.
BTW, Kobe and that particular daughter seemed to do a lot together, she was a star basketball player. My guess is she rode in that copter with him plenty of times.
brewens
(13,575 posts)If it's a car, I'm probably broke down along side the road figuring out what to do. In an aircraft, probably about to die. Still, the odds are nothing happens, so I fly if it makes sense.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But that only seems to apply to some.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Not surprised!
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)He said he has missed so many events stuck in congested traffic. He could workout train, take a helicopter to spend time with family.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)(snip)
Hed then travel to downtown LA for practise a trip he could make in 30-40 minutes early in his career before people started moving down south where he lived in Orange County.
After getting extra shots up and treatment after practise he could still be back in time to pick his children up from school and be there for after school activities, all that fun stuff.
But then traffic started getting really, really bad and I was sitting in traffic and wound up missing things like the school play, Bryant said.
I had to figure out a way I could still train and focus on the craft (of basketball), but also not compromise family time.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/sports-life/kobe-bryant-detailed-decision-to-start-flying-helicopters-in-heartbreaking-interview/news-story/3013482c230aeb70cee2f2d8ad0077e4
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Always "Me, me, me!" with that guy! He should have been focusing on his children.
Sarcasm
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)In my opinion, you can't possibly be serious.
You are either joking around, or just trying to make this place look bad.
If you actually were being serious, I apologize if you were offended by me calling your post dumb (even thought it is).
Bev54
(10,048 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)It really is a remarkable spectacle.
sarisataka
(18,618 posts)To events by helicopter. We will all drive, even though that is 10x more dangerous. It helps that I do not have nor can afford to travel by helicopter.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)johnp3907
(3,730 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)Blueplanet
(253 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)..we cant judge let alone even begin to second guess the decision of a lifestyle very foreign to a lot of us..
VMA131Marine
(4,138 posts)I think it should be pointed out that it almost certainly will turn out that the helicopter itself was not the cause of this tragedy.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Soak them in disinfectant. Feed them intravenously so they can't choke on their food. Cripes.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I am childless, but I admit that if I had kids, I would want to be everywhere they are to "protect" them. It is crazy thinking, but some people fall into that mindset. More than likely the daughter that died with Kobe flew on that chopper with him many times before the fatal flight.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)I'm from a different era. I grew up with lawn darts, 30 foot tall playground equipment erected on blacktop, optional seat belts and cigarettes that were actually good for you. A comedian once said the baby boomer's parents we're trying to kill us.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)has led people, including me in some cases, to be fearful of stuff that previous people didn't think about.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Do you think children don't die in car crushes? He could have just as easily die in the car crush during a long drive. Should we prevent children from traveling at all?
I mean, it's a ridiculous OP.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I do think that in some people's minds, ground transportation is safer, though statistics say otherwise. So, if a person truly believe that transporting the kids via the ground was safer, that would be their point of view.
My guess? Gianni Bryant likely had taken many helicopter rides with her dad and as they boarded their last flight, there was no concern about the mode of transport.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)Dont want to sit in traffic? Take a helicopter. Just hope the pilot doesnt fly into a mountain in bad weather. Bad luck for sure but a person of more modest means would have driven.
I dont get the deification of this guy. He was a great basketball player but I dont recall him being a great philanthropist or anything like LeBron James. He had a pretty serious incident that might have gotten him #MeTooed out of the league had it happened today. I dont know.
MerryBlooms
(11,767 posts)http://kvbff.org
I'm posting the link to his family's foundation to help give a fuller picture of who he was.
Jirel
(2,018 posts)Air travel is safer than cars. The only thing this crash suggests is that if you need to get a waiver to fly because the weather conditions are so stinking bad, keep everyone on the ground.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)No way it's safer down there. NO. WAY.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)But of course, the only reason police use them is that they allow for enhanced ground surveillance. With an aircraft IFR equipped and a pilot IFR rated it is nearly as safe as IFR.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,175 posts)wishstar
(5,268 posts)I have actually had 14 personal friends over my lifetime from high school onward through my life who were killed in car crashes and just 1 killed in a plane crash. In separate accidents, both my spouse and I were rescued unconscious and nearly died from separate head on car crashes. Inn the small city I live in NC now there have been fatalities on the highways almost daily recently.