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This is a follow up to another thread.
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I think GBJ and those 2 young men need psychiatric help and I just wonder if anyone has tried to intervene. Also gotta wonder if this is another CTE case. In older interviews, he spoke glowingly of his commitment to his family and even to the school itself, he spoke about being on the board. His behavior now is quite a drastic change.
][link:https://www.foxsports.com/other/story/gbaja-biamila-focused-on-family-not-football-021213|
Something else I found interesting, in 2016 GBJ endorsed Ted Cruz for president. Prior to that, he endorsed Rick Santorum. He was active in WI Republican politics. One report described GBJ as a right wing nut job. He was even encouraged to run for office
[link:https://totalpackers.com/2016/04/ted-cruz-trotted-kabeer-gbaja-biamila-today/|
The Crazy Case of Ex-NFL Players Pageant-Crashing Lackeys
The retired Green Bay Packer now runs a fringe ministry. Two of his followers spouted sovereign citizen buzzwords in a bizarre court appearance.
Two men associated with a fringe church have filed handwritten court documents demanding hundreds of thousands of dollars and international flights after being accused of carrying guns to a childrens Christmas pageant at the request of their church leader, a former NFL star.
Jordan Salmi, 24, and Ryan Desmith, 22, were charged last month with trespassing, disorderly conduct, and carrying concealed weapons to Providence Academys pageant in La Crosse, Wisconsin. Both men were members of a church led by former Green Bay Packers player Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, who told reporters hed asked the men to photograph the event, which his children were attending.
In an interview, he told The Daily Beast that his conflict over the Christmas pageant has been going on for the last two years, since his wife left him over his new religious beliefs. He wrote the school a letter forbidding his childrens participation in 2018, prompting the school to call police, he said, adding that in 2019, I was really proactive. In September, I sent an email to the school forbidding them from going.
The day before the pageant, Gbaja-Biamila said, he and the school headmaster met at another church at a parking lot and I gave him a bill for $150,000 . I let him know if you use my property, known as my sons and daughters, Ill have to be compensated. The headmaster probably thought it was a joke, he said. After the meeting, he called the headmaster again. I said, 'Am I your slave? Youre gonna use my property without compensation?'.... He took offense and hung up on me.
When it became clear the Gbaja-Biamila children would appear in the pageant, he allegedly sent Salmi and Desmith to photograph or film it, so that he could charge the school for use of his property,
][link:https://www.thedailybeast.com/duo-accused-of-bringing-guns-to-kids-xmas-pageant-demand-cash-and-planes-in-court|
magicarpet
(14,144 posts).... he seems nice and very level headed.
dalton99a
(81,433 posts)jmowreader
(50,552 posts)Karl has been in the sovereign citizen ecosystem for a long time. His definition of idiot comes from the Latin idiota - one unschooled in the law.
Karls legal theories are...well, so fucking far out there bizarre doesnt even come close to covering it. Karl teaches his followers they need to set up their own courts and try any cases theyre involved in through their own courts, and the governments legal system will automatically respect the findings of those courts.
Needless to say, it doesnt work. Karl gets himself hauled into the governments courts all the time, and his claims that the Court of Karl Lentz dismissed the case so it was settled get all the respect they deserve.
This particular crew is somewhat interesting: The organization they claim to belong to is part of the Moorish ecosystem, which claims that because the Moors are the original inhabitants of Northwest Amexem (their name for the rock Donald Trump is currently trying to destroy), the government has no authority over them. So, a Moor using Karls pseudo legal theories? You see something new every day.
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)from what most of us perceive. They appear to be using ancient Greek meaning. In Ancient Greece, an idiot was one who was not involved in affairs of the state, they were not considered citizens. Which fits into the narrative of sovereign citizens.
The meaning of idiot has changed over time.
Ryan Bundy of the infamous Bundy Clan that had a standoff with the govt also tried to use the idiot defense.
DVRacer
(707 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Initech
(100,060 posts)Coventina
(27,093 posts)That needs to be rectified immediately!