****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/29/20 THREAD 5****

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Thread 1 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212924433
Thread 2 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212924891
Thread 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212925266
Thread 4 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212925685

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1. Q. Van Hollen - re: about Bolton's "whatever drug deal Sondland and Mulvaney cooked up" quote

[Hermit-The-Prog]

2. Schiff naming Bolton several times

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3. Schiff is describing what this was being referenced from Bolton's remarks

based on testimony from Hill.

[MFGsunny]

4. Much obliged x a million for your dedication and fortitude here!

[Kentonio]

6. I'd like to second that motion! Thanks for all your hard work!

[Mersky]

10. Here's looking at you, BumRushDaShow!!!

Thank you for being amazing.

[better]

45. Hear, hear!

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5. Philbin - attempting to explain it away....

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7. BumRushDaShow, thank you and may your fingers never wear out from typing!

[underpants]

8. Schiff is remarkable. Pam Bondi had ONE JOB

Does each side know the subjects of the questions ahead of time? I don’t know.

Schiff seems ready for anything.
Bondi is supposed to be the Hunter Baurisma expert. She got a softball question about what Hunter did to make money from Baurisma and she FROZE. She should know this up down and sideways. She leafed through her notebook and flipped her hair. My wife said, “Come on Honey, get it together”.

[IcyPeas]

48. pam bondi

Link to tweet

Lawyer who took a bribe to drop investigation into Trump attempts to derail investigation into Trump by accusing someone else's child of doing the things done by 75% of Trump's adult children (that we know of).

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9. Q. (multiple R) - to WH counsel re: Ukraine aid and whether any annoucement of investigations

associated with release by Ukraine. - answered by Purpura with talking points.

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11. Q. Mark Warner - Info about Russian CT being distributed and shouldn't we have this before voting?

[underpants]

13. That was Warner

If it was Kaine you’d FEEL the eyebrow from off screen.

My Senators.

I knocked on 1,300 doors for TIM in 2012.

[underpants]

12. Warner: goes to Russian conspiracy theories

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14. Response by Schiff - all of the info must be provided to us.

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15. Turtle - 2 more questions each side the dinner break.

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16. 2 more questions. Then 45 minute break.

[Mersky]

17. Whoa. Is disconcerting.

Intelligence directors are withholding reporting to intelligence committees?!!

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18. Q. About "maladministration" and history of that.

[underpants]

19. Abuse vs. maladministration. Dershbag up.

[underpants]

20. Dershbag. Maladministration in the dictionary includes abuse

[underpants]

26. Dershbag: turns and confronts house managers. Does time travel thing again.

How dare you question me.
I’ve traveled in time and all scholars agree with me! .... not what I said 20years ago.

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21. Dershowitz is claiming using abuse of power would be the same as misconduct

and would mean a parliamentary system and serving at the pleasure of the legislature.

(where he IGNORES that a PM in a parliamentary system, the legislature has a coalition of parties who SELECT their PM which doesn't happen here)

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22. Where's the hook...

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23. omg actual relevant question from Alabama, but Derder will wave and unanswer

The line between abuse of power and maladministration is relevant, but the Senators won't get the answer from Dershowicz.

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24. Roberts - cut him off like you keep cutting Schiff off.

[malaise]

29. Finally he did

[Mersky]

25. Oh, so dersh is in the same company as a single scholar that rode a horse to work.

In 1867.

[underpants]

35. We have time travel going on here

Dershbag can travel through time and talk to scholars

Hunter Biden can travel through time and be a member of the Baurisma board two years before he was when Baurisma was under investigation for corruption

[Mersky]

41. And rabbits out of a hat

Is some slight-of-hand lawyering that’s designed to bamboozle, but that’s about it viewing from my seat in 2020.

[malaise]

27. He is crazy

One big effin two faced hypocrite

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28. He finally fucking cut him off.

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30. Q. (from Ds) - To House managers - Nixon v Unites States 1993 - quoting evidence requirements

for a "fair trial".

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31. Schiff responding - there is a need for witnesses and was told

"Thou shall not call witnesses".

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32. Schiff schreds Der-shit

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33. Schiff - is not buying that Dershowitz didn't read these things 22 years ago

Can't write off witnesses by saying "they're all Never-Trumpers".

[underpants]

38. That was great and right on time. Last one before the break.

[Bayard]

34. Oh, crap

Just got back in and turned this on again. Dirt-showitz holding forth about how he's right, and Lawrence Tribe is wrong. Probably smarting from Tribe on Lawrence's show last night saying Dirt didn't know what he was talking about.

Schiff answering him now, bringing up what Dirt said 21 years ago. Oops! Playing clip of Turley.

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36. Abuse of power is the one bucket that holds all of Trump's attacks on Constitution.

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37. None of the founders would have accepted

that the President could do anything they wanted.

He went there - a "thank you" for allowing the building of a Trump tower in that country.

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39. ****RECESS UNTIL 7:15 PM ET****

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40. RECESS. PBS showing "recorded earlier" of Schumer presser

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42. now Sen. Bob Menendez ...

Schumer refuted each Republican argument against witnesses, including and particularly Dershowitz.

This was recorded before today's session started.

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44. now showing Sen. Kaine

[Mersky]

43. "There can't be a true acquittal, if there isn't a real trial." - Kamala Harris

Appearing on MSNBC.

[Mersky]

46. Ah, heck, I missed Warren's interview

Will go back and review that

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47. It just got done.

She was pretty good.

[Mersky]

51. She's always good.

Would like to hear her thoughts of the day.

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49. ****BACK IN SESSION****

[elleng]

50. BACK

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52. Q. (McSally, Scott, Hawley, Rubin) -Schiff thinks there is a charge of bribery, extortion or related

Is there any evidence of this?

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53. closed captioning is mangling stuff -- assuming WH counsel speaking

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54. Now Philbin is responding with bullshit

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55. oh. maybe CC is not mangling stuff, then. didn't look like sentences.

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56. Udall D-NM (Blumenthal, Leahy, Whitehouse) -Question about why Biden is brought up then shouldn't

Ivanka and Kushner's involvements with foreign countries come under investigation??

[Kali]

63. that was interesting

bringing it up so people can think about it (because the fucking hypocrisy!!!), but managers ethically shooting it down as technically irrelevant to this trial

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65. It had to be put out there

and then of course the House Managers had to *wink wink* bat it down as not relevant (but it was put out there).

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57. Demings to answer about Hunter, Kushner, Ivanka's relevance

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58. Val Demmings (D-FL) up - regarding distractions - "Smoke and mirrors"

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59. She ain't having it! Reminds them why they are there.

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60. Demmings - nothing to do with Biden's children or the President's children - it has to do with

the President's misconduct.

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61. Q. (Cruz, et al) - To WH counsel - Isn't Burisma in the interest of the U.S.?

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62. and immediately Repukes back to Biden / Burisma.

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64. Philbin now introducing the entire CT of Hunter Biden into the record

[maxsolomon]

70. You know, I don't even know what the allegations are.

What exactly did HB do wrong? Get paid by a corrupt corporation?

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66. Q. Durbin to House Managers - respond to answer just given by WH counsel (re: Biden mess)

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67. Sylvia Garcia responding to the bullshit about Biden

No evidence that there was an interest in this in 2018 or 2017. It didn't happen until after Biden announced.

Biden was carrying out official U.S. policy supported internationally.

[Mersky]

68. Slide: BURISMA ALLEGATION IS WIDELY DISCREDITED

1. Burisma Conduct Occurred in 2015: The pResident did not request investigation until 2019, when Biden was a political rival

2. No witness supports allegation that Biden acted improperly

3. Amb Volker Confirms: “It is simply not credible that Joe Biden would be influenced in his duties as vice pResident.

4. Investigation into Burisma Not Official Policy: DOJ confirms no official (cutoff by chyron/ will find it.)

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69. Q. (T.Scott, Graham, Crapo) - Claim the Biden CT has been debunked. Where is evidence of debunking?

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71. cc showed Biden CT "defwurfbgt" -- I agree. It is defwurfbgt.

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74. That's exactly what it is!

[Roland99]

72. Well. Here for one

Trump and Giuliani’s Quest for Fake Ukraine “Dirt” on Biden: An Explainer
https://www.justsecurity.org/66101/trump-and-giulianis-quest-for-fake-ukraine-dirt-on-biden-an-explainer/

Full timeline
https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

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86. the pos Republican lawyer is pushing Russian propaganda

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73. Now the Kerry CT

[Roland99]

78. What's the Kerry theory?

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75. Completely fictional made-up CT

by Ghouliani even...

[underpants]

76. "Partner" a lot

Are they trying to make Hunter Biden gay?

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77. Q. Merkley (et. al) -to WH When did the defense team first learn about the Bolton manuscript

and the who made the determination to block - was it career, appointees, etc?

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79. Phil-da-bin-wid-bull 'splains about sooper sekrit sqvirrel in Boltonshevik byook

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80. Philbin is bullshitting an answer.

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81. Q. (Sullivan/Lankford) for WH counsel - Conflicted info on how long the Senate would be tied up

getting witnesses. With the 11 Amendments, who long would it take?

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82. Suckylow and is now arguing it would take too long for witnesses

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85. Dems predicted this argument 1.5 weeks ago

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83. Schumer said, before session, all Clinton witnesses took 1 day to depose total

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84. Sucky called Schiff "smart guy"

(he must be stressed to start name-calling)

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87. Q. Robert Menendez -to House Why the sudden corrupt in early 2019 when there was no problem between

Jan. 2017 - early 2019.

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92. question itself mentions 45 times aid not withheld

[dweller]

94. and PBS decided to take a station break wtf

so i missed the first ~minute of Crow's answer
was there anything revealed?
tia

✌🏼

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88. Menendez question highlights HYPOCRISY so PBS drops out

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89. ok they're back in time for slide -- just gave Woodruff some face time

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90. Jason Crow - showing evidence that there was no caring about corruption

until after Biden announced. And only lifted the hold after being "caught".

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91. ****LIVE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL 1/29/20 THREAD 6**** UP

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[Mersky]

93. Slide: Bogus Explanation: pResident tRump Cared About Corruption

- Neither April 21 or July 25 call with Zelensky mention word “corruption”
- DOD certified Ukraine met anti-corruption benchmarks months before hold
- By July 25, Zelensky established anti-corruption agenda
- pResident tRump pursued baseless investigation