Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:07 PM
Roland99 (52,966 posts)
Al Franken with the zinger!Link to tweet Question for WH counsel: Do you have any evidence that Donald Trump has ever cared about corruption? And by that we mean being AGAINST it? #ImpeachmentTrial
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Roland99 | Jan 2020 | OP |
leftieNanner | Jan 2020 | #1 | |
Coventina | Jan 2020 | #2 | |
leftieNanner | Jan 2020 | #3 | |
BKDem | Jan 2020 | #4 | |
OnlinePoker | Jan 2020 | #23 | |
rickyhall | Jan 2020 | #19 | |
lastlib | Jan 2020 | #34 | |
DFW | Jan 2020 | #8 | |
panader0 | Jan 2020 | #9 | |
DFW | Jan 2020 | #10 | |
Raster | Jan 2020 | #33 | |
scarletwoman | Jan 2020 | #13 | |
DFW | Jan 2020 | #18 | |
pazzyanne | Jan 2020 | #24 | |
betsuni | Jan 2020 | #16 | |
DFW | Jan 2020 | #17 | |
Under The Radar | Jan 2020 | #5 | |
Marcuse | Jan 2020 | #6 | |
Under The Radar | Jan 2020 | #7 | |
Karadeniz | Jan 2020 | #11 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Jan 2020 | #12 | |
Duppers | Jan 2020 | #14 | |
dalton99a | Jan 2020 | #15 | |
zentrum | Jan 2020 | #20 | |
NewJeffCT | Jan 2020 | #21 | |
Rider3 | Jan 2020 | #22 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Jan 2020 | #27 | |
marieo1 | Jan 2020 | #25 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Jan 2020 | #26 | |
dragonfly301 | Jan 2020 | #28 | |
PandoraAwakened | Jan 2020 | #29 | |
Nitram | Jan 2020 | #30 | |
UCmeNdc | Jan 2020 | #31 | |
sandensea | Jan 2020 | #32 | |
AllaN01Bear | Jan 2020 | #35 |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:08 PM
leftieNanner (13,345 posts)
1. Perfect!
Damn, but I miss that man in the Senate!
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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:09 PM
Coventina (25,007 posts)
2. We never should have allowed him to be railroaded. n/t
Response to Coventina (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:13 PM
leftieNanner (13,345 posts)
3. Nope.
And Senator Gillibrand did it to burnish her electability for President - all for naught.
We end up losing one of our most brilliant Democratic Senators. Damn. |
Response to leftieNanner (Reply #3)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:38 PM
BKDem (1,733 posts)
4. Yep.
Everything you said.
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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #3)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:20 AM
OnlinePoker (5,423 posts)
23. Not just senator but presidential candidate
I have little doubt he would have run this year and quite possibly taken the nomination.
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Response to Coventina (Reply #2)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:41 AM
rickyhall (4,889 posts)
19. Can you imagine big Al as impeachment manager?
He'd leave nothing but scorched earth and get some laughs in the process.
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Response to rickyhall (Reply #19)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 05:55 PM
lastlib (20,075 posts)
34. As a Senator, he would've been a "juror".......
But it would be great to have him there!
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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #1)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:33 PM
DFW (49,995 posts)
8. Many do, and he knows it.
At least now he does. He went through some serious depression after he was railroaded out. He couldn't believe he was sacrificed by his fellow Senators for pure convenience, especially for something he had not done (spare me the "eight women came forward" stock phrases from Fox Noise). He can't see himself serving alongside those same people, unable to rid himself of the notion that they'd do it again, no matter how much he still wants to be a Senator.
Some Senators have apologized (profusely) in private, but not in public. One, in particular, has cynically tried to pretend to do so for purely financial reasons, was caught trying to take advantage of it, and that made him even more furious. Don't ask which one. I found that out off the record in Washington last week, but the source is unimpeachable, and people who were there in the State in question at the time know it, too. Refuse to believe it if that makes you feel better. |
Response to DFW (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:40 PM
panader0 (25,343 posts)
9. Thanks--never had any reason to doubt what you say.
I love Al and have since I read his book.
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Response to panader0 (Reply #9)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:48 PM
DFW (49,995 posts)
10. I sometimes bite my tongue and just say nothing
Where Al is concerned, I just don't care any more. He was/is just too important to us to let go without a comment. I WAS encouraged to talk to him about it a little over New Year's, and hear that he is on the mend.
I will let on one thing: if Al ever decides to join Amy McGrath's Senate campaign against Moscow Mitch, Mitchie would be wise to retire instead. Al does a WICKED McConnell impression and can break up an audience with it any time he feels like it, makes McTurtle look more foolish than the three stooges combined. |
Response to DFW (Reply #10)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:47 PM
Raster (20,963 posts)
33. I also want to thank you, DFW...
...I NEVER believed the bullshit about Al, and still resent the fuck out of the Dems that threw him under the bus.
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Response to DFW (Reply #8)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 11:10 PM
scarletwoman (31,893 posts)
13. I just want you to know that I so very much appreciate your occasional Al Franken updates.
As a Minnesotan, he will always be my hero.
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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #13)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:59 AM
DFW (49,995 posts)
18. Although I have never even been to Minnesota
I have a family connection with Minnesota that goes back three generations. My paternal grandmother was quite the firebrand of her time. She was labor liason for New York Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia until he fired her--for getting too cozy with Labor! She then was a major NY fundraiser for the then-mayor of Minneapolis, who was making his first run for the US Senate. His name was Hubert Humphrey, who sponsored me to be a summer replacement Senate Page when I was 15. My family got to be good friends with a lot of the "Minnesota DFL Mafia." Fritz Mondale was really "Fritz" to us. Arms negotiator Max Kampelman. My dad had already passed by the time Al entered politics, but I guess my meeting him was just a logical extension. Pundit Norm Ornstein, while not a politician himself, is also a from Minnesota, and a friend who also knew my dad well, when he was still a DC beat reporter.
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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #13)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
pazzyanne (5,877 posts)
24. Same for me.
As a Minnesotan, he will always be my hero as well.
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Response to DFW (Reply #8)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:17 AM
betsuni (21,699 posts)
16. I imagine not getting more support from Amy Klobuchar really hurt.
He speaks about her so glowingly in his book.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #16)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:51 AM
DFW (49,995 posts)
17. The ones that came out with public statements hurt the most
They just couldn't wait to jump on a bandwagon they thought they were missing out on. "Everyone else is getting with this, I had better, too." That kind of thing should be reserved for kindergarten playgrounds, not the U.S. Senate, especially our side of the aisle.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:04 PM
Under The Radar (3,372 posts)
5. Yea sure Al!
....trump became confused and upset that he was restricted by the “foreign corrupt practices act” and asked Sec of State Tillerson to overturn it?
I am not sure but I do believe he was more concerned that the Law restricted his business and not his foreign policy. |
Response to Under The Radar (Reply #5)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:11 PM
Marcuse (6,366 posts)
6. Trump claims FCPA's anti bribery provisions puts US businessmen at a competitive disadvantage.
Response to Marcuse (Reply #6)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 09:17 PM
Under The Radar (3,372 posts)
7. Yep, that's it
This is an issue that only an honest boy-scout like Trump would lose sleep over.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:47 PM
Karadeniz (18,341 posts)
11. Well put!❤
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 10:53 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,768 posts)
12. So we have no one who can manufacture a clever zinger?
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:51 AM
Duppers (25,876 posts)
14. 😂 Yep, that's perfect.
Love Al.
Btw, Strange how railroaded Al was when we deeply mourn a real, convicted rapist. |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 10:58 AM
zentrum (9,859 posts)
20. Love Al, but this is not
.....a good question. Opens the door to all the Repukes rushing in and saying how T (endlessly) opposed "Clinton corruption", (so -called,) and how the electorate decided the corruption issue by electing him in 2016.
FAUX all the way---but that's exactly how the Repukes would spin it. So the question might backfire. I have no trust at all that the middle of the curve can make the right distinction. |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:00 AM
NewJeffCT (56,787 posts)
21. Good zinger, but
it will just give WH counsel another chance to lie
All Democratic questions should be going to the House managers so they can further emphasize their points and rebut WH Counsel and GOP Senate talking points. |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:08 AM
Rider3 (918 posts)
22. I miss Sen. Franken
He should still be seated.
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Response to Rider3 (Reply #22)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:53 AM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,817 posts)
27. Franken should've AT LEAST gotten due process... even the Asshole-in-Chief is getting that!!
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:43 AM
marieo1 (1,384 posts)
25. help the Good Ole USA, Al
Al, HELP!! We need you now, we need all the help you can offer.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 11:50 AM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,817 posts)
26. GOOD QUESTION!! But, the answer is obvious!!
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 12:32 PM
dragonfly301 (399 posts)
28. He needs a show!
He would be a great choice for the weekday MTP show on MSNBC. Instead it will probably be another moderate GOP like Nicholle Wallace or Shep Smith.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:13 PM
PandoraAwakened (905 posts)
29. K&R! n/t
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nitram (20,009 posts)
30. Way to go, Al!
I wish he was one of the managers in this trial.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:00 PM
UCmeNdc (9,306 posts)
31. I miss Al in the Senate.
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 02:42 PM
sandensea (18,342 posts)
32. Cheeto's only bothered by corruption, when he's not IN on it
This has been a well known fact since at least the 1980s.
It's just that 40% of our fellow voters don't care, so long as he keep catering to their hatreds. |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Thu Jan 30, 2020, 06:59 PM
AllaN01Bear (10,943 posts)