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Who Owns Your "organic" food? (Original Post) HiPointDem Sep 2012 OP
Why'd you put organic in quotes? ag_dude Sep 2012 #1
because some of it's not organic. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #3
What's the point you are trying to make? ag_dude Sep 2012 #4
Not to me. Apparently you have issues with my posting the information, though. HiPointDem Sep 2012 #5
WOW. Where exactly did you get that idea? ag_dude Sep 2012 #7
Mostly I do Marrah_G Sep 2012 #2
On a related topic.. sendero Sep 2012 #6
That study they're talking about came from Stanford ag_dude Sep 2012 #8
I don't need a scientific study.. sendero Sep 2012 #12
Hydrohydroxic acid is a chemical. ag_dude Sep 2012 #13
Not mine RoccoR5955 Sep 2012 #9
Any organic foods I get Inkfreak Sep 2012 #10
Just one more reason to buy local. Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #11

ag_dude

(562 posts)
1. Why'd you put organic in quotes?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 07:58 AM
Sep 2012

...almost as if the word shouldn't apply? Maybe I read that wrong.

In general, if you don't know the actual people that make the food you buy, it's going to be owned by larger scale companies. The economies of scale apply to agriculture too.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
4. What's the point you are trying to make?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:09 AM
Sep 2012

Was it surprising to find out that the larger organic brands are owned by ag conglomerates?

ag_dude

(562 posts)
7. WOW. Where exactly did you get that idea?
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:16 AM
Sep 2012

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I think educating people on what exactly organic means is EXTREMELY important. Too many people buy something labeled "organic" and apply all sorts of misguided assumpetions to it.

But seriously, what was the point you were trying to make? Was it just an educational thing?

sendero

(28,552 posts)
6. On a related topic..
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:12 AM
Sep 2012

... did any of you hear that "report" on NPR Morning Edition a few days ago about organic food?

It basically said "there's no difference". It said that scientists have not established that low levels of pesticides cause human harm. It claimed that nutrient difference were negligible.

IMHO the report was total bullshit and further indication of the corporate sellout nature of NPR. ADM/ConAgra much?

I will say this. The science for establishing improved healthfulness for organic vegetables might not be there yet. But there is no question whatsoever about the taste and palatability. I can always tell the difference and I'm sure most other people can too.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
8. That study they're talking about came from Stanford
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:17 AM
Sep 2012

and there's a thread on it here at DU.

edit: what the study was really focusing on was the difference in nutrition, of which there is none that can be scientifically proven. The pesticide stuff wasn’t really a part of the actual study but what they’re saying about a lack of scientific proof for alarmist reactions to any pesticide use is largely true, it just isn’t there.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
12. I don't need a scientific study..
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:08 AM
Sep 2012

.... to tell me not to eat chemicals.

Whether it increases my chances of cancer by .000001 % or 0.02%, I'd prefer to avoid it.

And frankly, I don't believe there is any practical way to run a study that would provide any real answers. Too many variables, too long term, etc.

ag_dude

(562 posts)
13. Hydrohydroxic acid is a chemical.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 09:17 AM
Sep 2012

Your arguments sound eerily similar to tea baggers talking about climate change.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
9. Not mine
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:19 AM
Sep 2012

I know the people who grow it, where the seed comes from, and where it's grown, right here in the scenic Hudson Valley of NY!

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
10. Any organic foods I get
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:23 AM
Sep 2012

Come from my garden. After that we just buy whatever regular veggies & fruit the supermarkets selling really. I have long suspected that alot of the organic food market was bullshit advertising. Just the cynic in me. I'm sure there are trustworthy brands. But I honestly don't care.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
11. Just one more reason to buy local.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 08:39 AM
Sep 2012

My organic produce either comes from my garden or the local farmers market.

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