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volstork

(5,399 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:49 PM Feb 2020

Correspondence from Lamar

I am a native Tennessean in my 50s, old enough to remember Alexander as a fairly good governor in the 70s-80s.
Here is the correspondence I received from him, along with my reply, not that it will do much good.



On Feb 1, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Senator Lamar Alexander <Correspondence_Reply@Alexander.senate.gov> wrote:

February 1, 2020

Dr. XXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXX Ave
Nashville, TN 372XX

Dear XXXXXXXX,

Thanks for getting in touch with me and sharing your thoughts regarding the impeachment of President Donald Trump.

I worked with other senators to make sure that we have the right to ask for more documents and witnesses, but there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the United States Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense.

There is no need for more evidence to prove that the president asked Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter; he said this on television on October 3, 2019, and during his July 25, 2019, telephone call with the president of Ukraine. There is no need for more evidence to conclude that the president withheld United States aid, at least in part, to pressure Ukraine to investigate the Bidens; the House managers have proved this with what they call a ‘mountain of overwhelming evidence.’ There is no need to consider further the frivolous second article of impeachment that would remove the president for asserting his constitutional prerogative to protect confidential conversations with his close advisers.

It was inappropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent and to withhold United States aid to encourage that investigation. When elected officials inappropriately interfere with such investigations, it undermines the principle of equal justice under the law. But the Constitution does not give the Senate the power to remove the president from office and ban him from this year’s ballot simply for actions that are inappropriate. The question then is not whether the president did it, but whether the United States Senate or the American people should decide what to do about what he did. I believe that the Constitution provides that the people should make that decision in the presidential election that begins in Iowa on Monday.

The Senate has spent nine long days considering this ‘mountain’ of evidence, the arguments of the House managers and the president’s lawyers, their answers to senators’ questions and the House record. Even if the House charges were true, they do not meet the Constitution’s ‘treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors’ standard for an impeachable offense.

The framers believed that there should never, ever be a partisan impeachment. That is why the Constitution requires a 2/3 vote of the Senate for conviction. Yet not one House Republican voted for these articles. If this shallow, hurried and wholly partisan impeachment were to succeed, it would rip the country apart, pouring gasoline on the fire of cultural divisions that already exist. It would create the weapon of perpetual impeachment to be used against future presidents whenever the House of Representatives is of a different political party.

Our founding documents provide for duly elected presidents who serve with ‘the consent of the governed,’ not at the pleasure of the United States Congress. Let the people decide.

Sincerely,
Lamar


My response:

You are a coward, a sell-out, and will be remembered as such for all of history.
Congratulations on destroying your legacy and that of your entire family in one vote.

TRAITOR

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Correspondence from Lamar (Original Post) volstork Feb 2020 OP
Your words, unlike Lamar's, are concise, economical... dchill Feb 2020 #1
DING! DING! DING! OMGWTF Feb 2020 #17
Retire in everlasting shame, Lamar. Mister Ed Feb 2020 #2
+10000 Peregrine Took Feb 2020 #4
From a fellow native Tennessean, thank you for this Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #3
Not inappropriate. Unconstitutional. Karadeniz Feb 2020 #5
He's my senator too, I won't even mention our other 'senator'. spanone Feb 2020 #6
I love the phrase "Profiles in Cowardice" renate Feb 2020 #23
Just this: volstork Feb 2020 #30
Lamar's gone full fascist now sandensea Feb 2020 #7
Mr. Alexander doesn't realize it yet Under The Radar Feb 2020 #8
Nixon's Defenders' Obits' Headlines all Read: Nixon Supporter ... OMGWTF Feb 2020 #19
"When in one line two crafts directly meet" Under The Radar Feb 2020 #24
How Is Extortion Not A Form Of Bribery DallasNE Feb 2020 #9
Same excuse used by Murkowski. Skidmore Feb 2020 #10
Don't ya love they make it about Democrats partisanship D_Master81 Feb 2020 #11
"I was just worried something even worse would come out" struggle4progress Feb 2020 #12
Good for you! pioche4 Feb 2020 #13
surprised he'd have the guts to send something like that out rurallib Feb 2020 #14
I have responded to him with "no one will remember anything good you ever did". TNNurse Feb 2020 #15
Well-said. volstork Feb 2020 #31
He thinks the president "undermining the principle of equal justice under the law" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #16
Many Americans are just like you said. Sickening! OMGWTF Feb 2020 #20
Shooting someone on Fifth Avenue would be similarly inappropriate. Marcuse Feb 2020 #18
If these charges involved a Dem and a bj, I'll just bet he would have been singing a different song Cousin Dupree Feb 2020 #21
GOOD for you!! Thank you. Duppers Feb 2020 #22
Yeah, you're right about him. I called many times, only got cry baby Feb 2020 #25
Joes reasonable Republican. gibraltar72 Feb 2020 #26
Right! WA-03 Democrat Feb 2020 #27
That letter needs to be turned into a political ad DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #28
agree! bluestarone Feb 2020 #29
Good response from you. bdamomma Feb 2020 #32

Mister Ed

(5,923 posts)
2. Retire in everlasting shame, Lamar.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 01:57 PM
Feb 2020

It has only been a "partsan" impeachment because your party has made it so, with none willing to violate the treasonous compact that they have entered into.

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
3. From a fellow native Tennessean, thank you for this
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 02:26 PM
Feb 2020

That cowardly fuck literally said "He did it, so what". Unfuckingbelieveable

spanone

(135,789 posts)
6. He's my senator too, I won't even mention our other 'senator'.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:28 PM
Feb 2020

I wrote him every day of the hearings.

This morning I wrote: Congratulations Mr. Alexander, you are a Profile in Cowardice.

renate

(13,776 posts)
23. I love the phrase "Profiles in Cowardice"
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

I hate that it has to exist, but it's absolutely correct.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
8. Mr. Alexander doesn't realize it yet
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:37 PM
Feb 2020

...but that vote was the highest profile move in his entire political career and he will he judged for allowing Trump to remain in office after the entire truth of Trumps guilt not just in the Ukraine matter come to light, but for every criminal act that he has and will commit.
It is political hindsight that Senator Alexander will also be judged for. It makes it even worse that Lamar admitted to Trumps guilt, then let him go to commit others crimes.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
24. "When in one line two crafts directly meet"
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:39 PM
Feb 2020

Mr Alexander task as Governor of Tennessee, Sec of Education and Senator will all be a side note.
The vote that allowed Trump off the hook by Lamar Alexander

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
9. How Is Extortion Not A Form Of Bribery
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:42 PM
Feb 2020

But that is circling around the issue. Alexander set the bar somewhere behind the moon as his way around the issue which is that Republicans can't come to grips with the required sentence (removal). So they revert to contortion. Rubio' is more truthful but also more contorted - jury nullification.

This also shows that Republicans realize that Trump is guilty as charged under a mountain of evidence. They just can't enforce the law because they don't like the punishment (removal) so they are forced into these contortions. Alexander sets the bar somewhere behind the moon to get around it. Rubio is a little more truthful but he is conflicted by the required sentence so he will nullify the sentence by voting for acquittal. Both are violating the oath they took. There are Senate rules against this but those rules will not be enforced, doing further damage to the rule of law. They need to step back and take a look at the big picture but clear thinking is now in short supply. They apparently would rather see the country rot under the weight of a sham trial than do what is required of them by their own oath, which is to be impartial and vote based on the evidence presented. This a a sad chapter in America's history. Extremely sad.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
10. Same excuse used by Murkowski.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:45 PM
Feb 2020

Partisan because Republicans refused to allow evidence and testimony and because they refuse to acknowledge his led and criminal behavior.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
11. Don't ya love they make it about Democrats partisanship
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 03:47 PM
Feb 2020

I mean the Democrats were doing such partisan things as asking for witnesses and WH documents. The horror!

rurallib

(62,377 posts)
14. surprised he'd have the guts to send something like that out
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:03 PM
Feb 2020

On second thought, he is a Repug, so I guess no real surprise.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
16. He thinks the president "undermining the principle of equal justice under the law"
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

to fix the upcoming election is something that should just be decided in that "inappropriately" fixed election. So if Trump fixes it good and proper, he'll get away with it. He has just pissed on the concept of the law.

He is an idiot and morally bankrupt; and he thinks the American public are as idiotic and as morally bankrupt as he is.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
22. GOOD for you!! Thank you.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:30 PM
Feb 2020

I called his office just raving & ranting with anger. He will not forget this; we will not let him.

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
25. Yeah, you're right about him. I called many times, only got
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:54 PM
Feb 2020

through a few as the voicemail was full in all his many offices.

WA-03 Democrat

(3,037 posts)
27. Right!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:22 PM
Feb 2020

These are Trumpians.
Republicans died yesterday.
Facts not Fear

GO JOE GO!!!
He will win WI, MI, OH and PA.
He will beat trump like a drum

bluestarone

(16,856 posts)
29. agree!
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:36 PM
Feb 2020

I say that HE took an OATH when he accepted to be a senator that HE would PROTECT this great country from creatures like tRUMP! HE FAILED TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY! HE could have STOPPED tRUMP in his tracks from FURTHER destruction! THEY ALL FAILED!

bdamomma

(63,793 posts)
32. Good response from you.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:29 PM
Feb 2020

All those who followed this wanna be dick...are going to be such trouble, when things get worse for the American people, and for themselves, really their party is more, they are just jockeying who is getting more of this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

The NRA has no money that is why they are branching out to rogue countries.

I may watch V for Vendetta.

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