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underpants

(182,789 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 04:57 PM Feb 2020

DOJ *at midnight Friday* admits the have 24 emails the House Investigation sought

Trump administration reveals it's blocking dozens of emails about Ukraine aid freeze, including President's role

Washington (CNN)The Department of Justice revealed in a court filing late Friday that it has two dozen emails related to President Donald Trump's involvement in the withholding of millions in security assistance to Ukraine -- a disclosure that came just hours after the Senate voted against subpoenaing additional documents and witnesses in Trump's impeachment trial, paving the way for his acquittal.

The filing, released near midnight Friday, marks the first official acknowledgment from the Trump administration that emails about the President's thinking related to the aid exist, and that he was directly involved in asking about and deciding on the aid as early as June. The administration is still blocking those emails from the public and has successfully kept them from Congress.

A lawyer with the Office of Management and Budget wrote to the court that 24 emails between June and September 2019 -- including an internal discussion among DOD officials called "POTUS follow-up" on June 24 -- should stay confidential because the emails describe "communications by either the President, the Vice President, or the President's immediate advisors regarding Presidential decision-making about the scope, duration, and purpose of the hold on military assistance to Ukraine."

The filings from the executive branch came Friday to meet a court-ordered January 31 deadline. A judge had specifically asked for an email-by-email breakdown of what the Justice Department redacted or withheld in Defense Department and OMB emails about the aid, and why it did so, after the Center for Public Integrity sued and got access to them in December through the Freedom of Information Act.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/politics/trump-ukraine-aid-emails-omb-justice-department/index.html

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DOJ *at midnight Friday* admits the have 24 emails the House Investigation sought (Original Post) underpants Feb 2020 OP
Bastards! COLGATE4 Feb 2020 #1
Does that refusal also apply when it's intended procon Feb 2020 #2
Nope! LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #17
Until this happens to some of these guys leftieNanner Feb 2020 #25
"We have the materials. They don't have the materials" - OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. CousinIT Feb 2020 #3
Yes. kentuck Feb 2020 #5
This is so manipulative and sociopathic underpants Feb 2020 #21
Exactly Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #28
trump has weaponized every branch of government.... spanone Feb 2020 #4
I wonder who the mastermind is. Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #6
Exactly. Good question! nt Duppers Feb 2020 #7
Have you heard a DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #8
Smaug. Palpatine. dchill Feb 2020 #11
This is Barr underpants Feb 2020 #12
Steven Miller? Who has heard jack from him/about him lately? japple Feb 2020 #15
Don't look at the obvious set of political operatives. Look deeper and wider. erronis Feb 2020 #19
Stephen Miller, probably csziggy Feb 2020 #20
Barr. triron Feb 2020 #22
I think it's a cabal. spanone Feb 2020 #26
A related question. hay rick Feb 2020 #29
What will they do if the judge orders them produced, even if only for his review? DeminPennswoods Feb 2020 #9
This ranks as blatant obstruction by the so called president, and his cronies, and brings to mind... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #10
Yeah. The irony. It's HIS emails. underpants Feb 2020 #13
Emails? Someone say emails? Kurt V. Feb 2020 #14
and there are only 24 underpants Feb 2020 #23
what a surprise. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #16
That's about as news dumpy as you can get C_U_L8R Feb 2020 #18
I didn't know there were darkness levels to sociopathic behavior underpants Feb 2020 #24
Impeach em all again--while we still can librechik Feb 2020 #27
Damn straight and let's throw in violation of the Emoluments Clause in our Constitution. Ligyron Feb 2020 #31
The crookery is so blatant Cousin Dupree Feb 2020 #30

procon

(15,805 posts)
2. Does that refusal also apply when it's intended
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 05:44 PM
Feb 2020

to cover up the conspiracy between Trump and his top advisors to perpetrate illegal activities that would pose a grave threat to the constitution and our country?

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
25. Until this happens to some of these guys
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:52 PM
Feb 2020

They will continue to misbehave. Let's see a few of them lose their law licenses and see if things change.

CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
3. "We have the materials. They don't have the materials" - OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 05:48 PM
Feb 2020

This was a huge "FUCK YOU" to every person in America. That's the only way this and the timing of it can be interpreted.

The mofo should be impeached again for that.

underpants

(182,789 posts)
21. This is so manipulative and sociopathic
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:46 PM
Feb 2020

Frankly, Schiff should have known about this and brought it up. It was mentioned in the House hearings but BUT HIS EMAILS would have been a bright shiny object to the media.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
6. I wonder who the mastermind is.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:05 PM
Feb 2020

It's not Trump. His mind isn't organized enough for the complete blocking of government.

Not Jared.

Who is it?

I would say Bannon, but he's not there.

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
8. Have you heard a
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:24 PM
Feb 2020

Single word from Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al ???

SOME ONE is working with Putin.......or a group of “some ones”

erronis

(15,241 posts)
19. Don't look at the obvious set of political operatives. Look deeper and wider.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:42 PM
Feb 2020

Some names like Rove and Cheney have been suspiciously quiet.

The RW Fed Soc (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society) and similar slime.

Here is a list culled from wikipedia. It seems that the crims want to couch their crimes behind "wholesome" names.

Acton Institute · Alexis de Tocqueville Institution · American Enterprise Institute · Center for Immigration Studies · Center for Security Policy · Center for the National Interest · Charles Koch Institute · Claremont Institute · Competitive Enterprise Institute · David Horowitz Freedom Center · Discovery Institute · Ethics and Public Policy Center · Family Research Institute · Gatestone Institute · The Heartland Institute · The Heritage Foundation · Hoover Institution · Hudson Institute · Intercollegiate Studies Institute · Institute on the Constitution · Manhattan Institute · Mises Institute · Pacific Research Institute · Project for the New American Century · Ripon Society · R Street Institute · Rockford Institute · State Policy Network · Tax Foundation

ACT! for America · Alliance Defending Freedom · American Center for Law & Justice · American Family Association · American Liberty League · Arlington Group · Chalcedon Foundation · Christian Coalition of America · Christian Voice · Club for Growth · Concerned Women for America · ConservAmerica · Conservative Caucus · Council of Conservative Citizens · Council for National Policy · Eagle Forum · Faith and Freedom Coalition · Family Research Council · Federalist Society · Federation for American Immigration Reform · Fellowship Foundation · Focus on the Family · Foundation for Individual Rights in Education · Foundation for Moral Law · Freedom Caucus · Freedom Partners · FreedomWorks · Gun Owners of America · Independent Women's Forum · John Birch Society · John M. Olin Foundation · Judicial Watch · Leadership Institute · Liberty Lobby · Log Cabin Republicans · Media Research Center · Moral Majority · National Conservative Political Action Committee · National Federation of Independent Business · National Organization for Marriage · National Rifle Association · National Right to Life Committee · National Taxpayers Union · NumbersUSA · Oath Keepers · Philadelphia Society · Regnery Publishing · Republican Main Street Partnership · Republican Study Committee · Second Amendment Caucus · Susan B. Anthony List · Tea Party Patriots · Turning Point USA · Traditional Values Coalition · United States Chamber of Commerce · Young America's Foundation · Young Americans for Liberty · Youth for Western Civilization

American Affairs · The American Conservative · The American Spectator · American Renaissance · American Thinker · Blaze Media · Breitbart News · Campus Reform · Chicago Tribune · CBN · City Journal · Claremont Review of Books · CNSNews.com · Commentary · Conservative Review · Chronicles · Daily Caller · Daily Signal · Daily Wire · Dallas Morning News · Drudge Report · The Federalist · First Things · Fox Business · Fox News · FrontPage Magazine · Front Porch Republic · Gateway Pundit · Hot Air · Human Events · Independent Journal Review · InfoWars · Jewish World Review · Jihad Watch · Las Vegas Review-Journal · LifeSiteNews · LifeZette · Modern Age · National Affairs · The National Interest · National Review · The New American · The New Criterion · NewsBusters · Newsmax · New York Observer · New York Post · One America News Network · PanAm Post · Policy Review · Power Line · PragerU · PJ Media · Rare · Real News Update · RedState · RSBN · Sinclair Broadcast Group · The Spotlight · Taki's Magazine · Townhall · TruthRevolt · Twitchy · VDARE · The Wall Street Journal · Washington Examiner · The Washington Free Beacon · The Washington Times · The Weekly Standard · The Western Journal · WorldNetDaily

I forgot to include all of the external players/autocrats/oligarchs/plutocrats that are enjoying plundering the US. Dump's boyfriend Vlad in particular.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
20. Stephen Miller, probably
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:43 PM
Feb 2020
As a speechwriter for Trump, Miller helped write Trump's inaugural address.[4][5][6] He has been a key adviser since the early days of Trump's presidency. An immigration hardliner, Miller was a chief architect of Trump's travel ban,[7][8][9] the administration's reduction of refugees accepted to the United States,[10] and Trump's policy of separating migrant children from their parents.[11] He has prevented the publication of internal administration studies that showed that refugees had a net positive effect on government revenues.[12][13] Miller reportedly played a central role in the resignation in April 2019 of Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen, who he believed was insufficiently hawkish on immigration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Miller_(political_advisor)#Trump_administration

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
9. What will they do if the judge orders them produced, even if only for his review?
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020

Judges can send you to jail for contempt.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
10. This ranks as blatant obstruction by the so called president, and his cronies, and brings to mind...
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:27 PM
Feb 2020

all of the nonsense they all ranted and raved about w/ regard to HRC's 30,000 emails, and they are actually doing it themselves. What idiots.

underpants

(182,789 posts)
23. and there are only 24
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

Noticed they only acknowledged that they exist. The fight to release them will be something to watch.

Yes,....BUT HIS EMAILS

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
18. That's about as news dumpy as you can get
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:35 PM
Feb 2020

Slinking around under darkness is not a good look and besides it’s pretty ineffective in the digital age.

underpants

(182,789 posts)
24. I didn't know there were darkness levels to sociopathic behavior
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 06:49 PM
Feb 2020

This is black belt.

If this was mentioned during the trial I missed it.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
31. Damn straight and let's throw in violation of the Emoluments Clause in our Constitution.
Sat Feb 1, 2020, 07:48 PM
Feb 2020

They are violating those things prohibited by the very Constitution itself.

Then flaunting it.

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