Just got an email response from a woman I danced with years ago that "Dems are just as bad", etc.

[triron]

after I told her what I thought of the POS in the WH.

I just deleted the email. Should I just ignore this or not? It infuriated me.

[Skittles]

1. reply

no, they're not, and I do not wish to continue contact with a person too stupid to understand that

[triron]

2. That's about how I feel. But I have known her a long time and it's hard to do.

So you think I should reply or not? I do think she is (or was) a registered democrat.
Maybe I will not respond for awhile and see if she gets the message.

[elleng]

6. Reply with RATIONAL response, no vulgarity.

Use it as a teaching moment.

[a kennedy]

18. Yah, I agree with this.......

try to stay calm, just point out your views and then just cold clock her. No i’m Just kidding.......no violence, just point out your view and let it go.

[Skittles]

15. tell her that assertion is ridiculous and she should educate herself

silence = agreement

[Ferrets are Cool]

20. There are a LOT of post here on DU that lay out the FACTS of how

corrupt this administration is. Copy and paste.

[CatWoman]

23. word

[blm]

3. Two word answer - Prove it.

[2naSalit]

4. +1

[Phoenix61]

22. Yes!!! Best answer ever. nt

[rurallib]

28. that is essentially what I would do

ask her why? Please be specific about what and when and what is her source. My guess most of her sources could easily be debunked - probably have been debunked.

Then you may want to ask which progressive policies she would like to see eliminated. If people keep voting the way they do these policies will end. Does she want to see Social Security end? Medicare? Medicaid? Interstate highway system? Rules on interstate trade and reciprocity? A few to start with.

Then you may want to know what Trump has done that is so great. The only policy that is really his is the huge tax cut for the rich that will turn into a tax raise for the poor and middle class in a couple of years.

[unblock]

5. Interesting how no one ever says, "republicans are just as bad"

Because that's just not a thing.

Everyone knows, whatever the worst is any democrat ever does,
A) we'll get rid of them ourselves anyway; and
B) there's a long list of republicans who are doing far worse

[yonder]

21. ".....republicans are just as bad"

How true. Can't say I've ever heard that.

[fierywoman]

31. Or, "Republicans are worse."

[bdamomma]

7. They will never admit

they are wrong, but if you asked them if their daily lives have gotten better in the past three years with tRump I bet they would stammer or just change the subject.

Cause tRump just thinks about tRump and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[SMC22307]

8. Ask for specific examples -- she needs to prove what she's claiming.

It tried that with a family member, though. He couldn't care less about Fat Nixon's bad behavior as long as he's getting tax cuts and his portfolio looks good.

[handmade34]

9. I would calmly

bombard her with FACTS! she may side with the Republicans, but they are most certainly not the same

economy
https://www.salon.com/2015/12/28/these_5_charts_prove_that_the_economy_does_better_under_democratic_presidents/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/11/07/trump-is-right-about-one-thing-the-economy-does-better-under-the-democrats/#49a9c4736786

health of our environment
http://www.planetexperts.com/republicans-democrats-differ-climate-environment-policies/

healthcare
https://healthnetwork.com/blog/differences-between-republicans-and-democrats-on-healthcare/

women's rights/LGBTQ rights/civil rights
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/opinion/republicans-vs-women.html
etc...

https://www.enkivillage.org/differences-between-democrats-and-republicans.html
etc.....

[triron]

13. Can I borrow this?

[handmade34]

16. of course

and if you want specifics... research is the thing I do best

as I said in another post 'we can't force them over... we must win them fair and square'

as difficult as it is to swallow... we are all in this together and as long as there is even a ghost of a chance we need to try... our health, our safety, our dignity, our very future is in question if we don't do this correctly

[FM123]

26. This is fantastic!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

10. So, I'm guessing you had your "last dance".

The music's over; turn out the lights.

[AJT]

11. Ask her why she feels that way, and to give you examples.

You can acknowledge her feelings, perhaps refute some of her examples. Provide reasons why you feel otherwise and provide a massive list of examples of your own.

[Stinky The Clown]

12. Ask yourself honestly if you wish to remain friends with this woman.

If no, then reply any way the mood strikes.

If indifferent, then tell her more or less politely you disagree and let it go.

If you value the friendship then recognize you are unlikely to change her mind. Just ignore this sort of thing. If it keeps happening, point out that you have been ignoring this sort of thing far the sake of your friendship and leave it in her court.

I have had to face this. I've done all three.

[triron]

14. Thanks. Some good ideas here.

[lunatica]

17. It's the absolute last argument used when someone

can’t admit they’re wrong. It’s the flippant throwaway line that proves their knowledge on the subject is so limited that they can’t defend their belief but they need to justify it.

I would just chalk it up as her being ignorant, in the true sense of the word, and move on. I’ve heard that accusation and it comes from not being truly aware or interest in politics.

[Roland99]

19. Reply with THIS

https://jobsanger.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-two-major-political-parties-are-not.html?m=1

[albacore]

29. Add this....

...and note that the prison sentences are still coming...for Flynn. And maybe some more. The Party of personal responsibility....

[Proud Liberal Dem]

36. When some people complain about how bad things were under Obama

I have to wonder, what reality were they all living in?

[betsuni]

30. That's excellent!

[fierywoman]

32. Brilliant!

[catrose]

24. Maybe a version of Bertrand Russell's letter cited by another DUer

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212942272

[dchill]

27. +1!

[leftyladyfrommo]

25. I hear that one a lot. I ignore it. It's stupid. nt

[cry baby]

33. Bertrand Russell said this:

“Thank you for your letter and for your enclosures. I have given some thought to our recent correspondence. It is always difficult to decide on how to respond to people whose ethos is so alien and, in fact, repellent to one’s own. It is not that I take exception to the general points made by you but that every ounce of my energy has been devoted to an active opposition to cruel bigotry, compulsive violence, and the sadistic persecution which has characterised the philosophy and practice of fascism.

I feel obliged to say that the emotional universes we inhabit are so distinct, and in deepest ways opposed, that nothing fruitful or sincere could ever emerge from association between us.

I should like you to understand the intensity of this conviction on my part. It is not out of any attempt to be rude that I say this but because of all that I value in human experience and human achievement.”


Tweak this and reply with class and dignity. It is not a good use of your time arguing with a trump cult member.

[Steelrolled]

34. Delete it. Why would you want to continue?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

35. Unless you want to be perpetually frustrated

I dislike "pox on both houses" sort of people almost as much as I dislike actual right-wingers/Republicans. It seems to me that they have completely checked out of politics and basically have enough privilege to not care until something seriously adversely affects them and possibly not even then. They are part of our country's problems IMHO, which they will be quite content to bemoan whenever they feel like it, but since they can't bring themselves to consider anybody from either side because everybody is "a crook", they will basically refuse to do anything about anything, no matter how bad things are or how much of a horror show our leaders are. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life- thought I can certainly relate with yours struggles with ignoring it.