Poll says GOP shrinking:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

[handmade34]

1. and that

is why Republicans cheat, oppress the vote, gerrymander, lie, evade, exploit, deny, etc...

[dchill]

4. Yep. No worries - they have all the bases covered.

[Progressive Jones]

21. That's all SOP for the GOP. They CAN'T win without cheating in most States. NT

[Oldem]

26. And seek

foreign interference in our elections. They're willing to take the country down to insure they stay in power.

[AZ8theist]

39. Yup. Pooooorrr GOP

Thoughts and prayers!!!

[Skittles]

2. I am betting the younger folk in particular are very turned off

yes indeed

[2naSalit]

7. I agree.

It also explains the constant level of support or even apparent rises in support. It's like salty water, as the water dries up, the salty gets more intense by volume. It's a dying party, they know it and their only hope for survival is apartheid... and that seems to be what their shooting for.

[Skittles]

8. yes

a lot of people support the political party their parents do - but today's young folk are very savvy and are understanding what and who repukes really support

[blm]

12. And it's a certainty that close to a million of Trump's block of old voters have

passed away in the last 4yrs. And young voters are not replacing them in the numbers needed to win in 2020 and continue into the decade as a viable party.

[Vogon_Glory]

27. That's a horrible thing to say, but after three years of Orange Julius

I hope that the Reaper has cut into his demographics. I’m not sure if the actuarial tables will help us in Florida, but the numbers could help us in other states.

[blm]

29. I know it's horrible, but ......

those 2016 Trump voters helped deliver this country to Putin, so they are all traitors to me.

[Vogon_Glory]

32. Or credulous, self-blinded Useful Idiots.

I could almost empathize with a 2016 old-school Republican voter who looked around, saw his/her mistake, and then decides to spend Election Day 2020 taking a walk or going to the movies, but I have ZERO sympathy for people looking forward to repeating their mistake.

[2naSalit]

13. My sisters and I made sure their kids were educated in civics

and vote. Those girls go to marches with their moms and the one nephew holds fundraisers, none of them have kids and don't plan to become parents because of environmental stuff.

The ones who are right behind us, age wise, have a clue and they are active in numbers from what I'm seeing. Most of the people I know are much younger and I am impressed with what I see in the 30s crowd these days. Sure we have our dolts and wannabe warrior preppers but they really aren't as big a group as the rest of us who are somewhere in the sane category, shit, it looks like they're doing themselves in with their lifestyles of stoopid.

I see a lot of independence from parental party affiliations among those who actually think, it's a good sign. The younger generations are undetermined right now but I think they are mostly wanting to fight for their survival so that will make a difference, they just don't know who they can trust or if they can trust anyone.

[Amimnoch]

25. Make no mistake, there's older generation in there as well.

Sure, very likely to a smaller extent, but from the canvassing I do, and neighborhood meetings, and socials with a number of the neighbors around me (we're a pretty social group), there's definitely older traditional Republicans that.. not really come around, but for now are voting Democratic Party out of disdain for Trump and those who've fallen lock-step with him.

One of my personal proudest ones:
Danny, neighbor across the street. He and his wife are in early 60's. Long time Republican supporters/voters. 2016 they voted Cruz in the Primary. By the General they didn't vote at all for President, but did still vote down-ticket Republican. Fast forward to 2018 they voted for Beto for Senate, and worked with me on Lizzie Fletchers campaign to flip Texas district 7. Shockingly, they like either Biden or Buttigieg, and plan to vote in our primary this year. As long as it isn't Sanders, they plan to vote Democratic Party in the GE. They've both volunteered with me on MJ Hegar's primary run to oust Cornyn. Will be joining me in Lizzie's campaign when it kicks into high gear later in the spring since, THANKFULLY, nobody was stupid enough to primary her this time around.

[Skittles]

60. did they get hit by lightning in 2016?

it's not as if repukes (ESPECIALLY CRUZ) were not total scumbags before pre-Trump

[Amimnoch]

61. lol, right? Actually for them it was all about abortion.

There's a lot of issues that you "can" potentially make headway with when there's calm and friendly discourse between neighbors. Pro Life/Pro choice isn't one of them.. or at least I've never found a way to get through to anyone that isn't pro-choice when it comes to this particular issue. Either you see it as a woman's right to control the destiny of her own body and life and believe the science between the developing fetus, or you believe that it starts at conception, and it's a life right from the start.. There's no real middleground or compromise argument you can make with people like that.

I'm just glad to have people like them, even if temporary, on the right side.. will need every vote possible to keep my Representative Lizzie, and try for a Senator Hegar.. not perfect, but I'll take any I can get.

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. That can't be under-estimated...

Having three kids ages 16-23, volunteering in a number of organizations that serve kids (sports, music, etc.), and encountering countless youth as a community minister, I can tell you a big reason why.

Climate change.

They are scared to death about global warming, and well they should be.

Like most youth, they think they'll live forever. (metaporically, not literally) In my generation, that meant we didn't pay attention to healthcare as an issue until our joints started creaking. In this generation, it means they'll be alive until the planet becomes uninhabitable.

Democrats can absolutely mobilize and turnout young voters on the environment. Gun violence too.

These kids aren't stupid. They know which party is the party of climate change deniers and fossil fuel champions.

[SWBTATTReg]

3. And they deserve every single loss of a voter, deserve the loss of every single Senate seat, ...

deserve a bigger loss in the House of Representatives, as well as the Exec. branches of government, as they truly represent the worse of America, not its best.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. I am looking for a new "can do" attitude from a Democratic Executive and Legislature.

1st order of business, expand the Supreme Court.
2nd order of business, expand the lower courts.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. Maybe the fever has broken? nt

[2naSalit]

9. We won't hear it on the media but

what's really happening is just that. Most people will turn away from a stinking pile of shit at one point or another, some don't until they've stepped in it.

As for your comment on the courts above, I had an idea about that yesterday. I wonder, should we regain both WH and Senate, could Congress w/presidential agreement require a re-certification process of all federal judges to weed out the unqualified tools that just got placed. That could be a simpler solution. The system works when not defiled by the mob of the day. I could see that as a better remedy.

[Maraya1969]

16. THAT would be wonderful!

[2naSalit]

20. It's a thought... nt

[Karadeniz]

10. I don't see 10%...I see 3%. What am I missing?

[Maraya1969]

17. It started at 30%. 10% of 30 is 3. So it went down to 27 which is minus 3

It confused me for a minute too.

[Ex Lurker]

11. They didn't suddenly become progressives

At best they will stay home this time. Put a more presentable Republican up in 2020 and they'll vote for him

[k2qb3]

14. I don't think so.

There were lots of people fighting over what the GOP would become after the Bush era, and not all of them got what they wanted.

This last episode, the whole impeachment debacle, opened a lot of eyes.

Even some of the people who'd rather have Trump than a Democrat are having trouble swallowing the volume of BS at this point.

OTOH, I don't see Democrats stepping away from the policies that they've sacrificed their whole agenda to for the last 30+ years either, so it's never going to be a cakewalk.

[thenelm1]

41. Too many people swallowed a 20+ plus year campaign of the "Clintons are the devil incarnate".

But that took many years to cultivate, and Hillary still won the popular vote by a significant margin. Yet ultimately it was close enough to pervert the result. They're trying to do the same with Biden. Can they succeed with that kind of campaign after only a year or so of poisoning the well? This time with much more serious pushback and an actual noxious, impeached, lying scumbag as their poster boy? Fortunately the ass can't keep his mouth shut and keeps adding to the crazy.

One would hope rationality and realization that their previous BS campaign was just that should open some eyes, but never under estimate the gullibility of the US voters. Or the corrupt means that are used to try and subvert the will of the people.

[Blue_true]

37. Exactly. People like Rick Wilson, Jennifer Rubin, George Will,

would be tearing us a new asshole to get that republican elected. The religious right would go along because of convenience, at least until it can reassert itself.

What I believe is that the Republican Party will vanish into an extreme party of religious zealots. The sane former Republicans will work to split off right leaning democrats to reform two sane parties. The extreme zealot party will slowly die off, leaving the two sane parties to contest elections. But populism can throw a wrench into that vision, since a populist only has to make promises, there is always an audience for that.

[Maraya1969]

15. What is with the consistency at 538 for 45's approval though?

I check it all the time. Right now it is 43%. There is hardly any movement at all.

I know someone posted something that explained how this can be misleading but I have followed this poll for a long time and I just can't understand how the fucker can still have over 40% of the people supporting him!

[blm]

22. Landline calls and/or likely voters which skews to older voters.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. 538 Includes Rasmussen

In the world of social statistics, they get very little respect.
There are issues with method at a couple other big polling companies. Not to the level Rasmussen, but flawed.
For instance, some do likely voters, some use probable voters, some are totally random.
Some do land line only, some to both phone types...
538 aggregates these numbers, so flawed results end up in the aggregation. Nothing 538 can.

[Kingofalldems]

18. I dedicate this thread to all the 'Trump wins' OPs seen here regularly.

They have grown tiresome.

[Progressive Jones]

19. I would venture to say that the GOP is losing voters rapidly to "The Reaper".

There are old folks on both sides, but the GOP has more, and many who lead bad lifestyles.

Gravy is not meant to be a beverage.

[magicarpet]

43. Gravy a beverage.....

Well pee myself laughing.

[BunnyMcGee]

45. Oh yes

I nearly sprayed my beverage (wine) when I read this

[Pepsidog]

23. Good. Shrink them out of existence.

[LiberalArkie]

24. They call themselves independents now.

[RobertDevereaux]

28. This toxic unAmerican party must be buried these next three election cycles.

[Beartracks]

31. Yes, it is NOT just about 2020! And definitely...

... NOT just about Trump!!

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[bmbmd]

30. Shrink them

Until they're small enough to drown in a bathtub.

[calimary]

53. Yep!

How delicious!

Imagine that mercenary fucker Grover Norquist and his wet dream of “starving the beast” - shrinking government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub - forced to watch his own foul detestable damnable political party suffering that fate.

Mmmmm... sometimes irony is sweet.

[crickets]

58. +1

[MaryMagdaline]

33. Not fast enough

[bucolic_frolic]

34. I just don't think

we should count our chickens or peak too early. We can drive a wave election from Columbus Day to Election Day. I'd rather have boxcar momentum down the stretch than an invincible lead on Labor Day.

[Hulk]

35. Don't get too excited....

This is why I have difficulty accepting opinions or polls regarding "independents". I believe we are talking about a lot of gop'rs in hiding. They simply don't want to accept what their party has devolved to. So they change registration to be that "independent" breed. Absolute BULL SHIT!! They are STILL repuKKKes....only in hiding.

When they poll "independents", they need to qualify them by stating what their party affiliation was 5-10 years ago. I don't buy any of this "independent" polling garbage. It's tainted...as there are too many repuKKKe simply hiding from the reality of how awful and unAmerican their party has sunk to.

[Beartracks]

36. ... or complacent. These elections don't win themselves!

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[Progressive Jones]

47. Let 'em start another "con" party. That and the GOP will split votes, ensuring failure. nt

[brush]

56. Good points. Man are repuKKKe like you say. Who knows how they'll vote.

[IggleDuer]

38. Shrinkage!

That is all

[DeminPennswoods]

44. LOL!

nt

[kurtcagle]

40. Noticed this a while ago

I couldn't reconcile why gop support was so high until I begun digging deeper into the polls. Many don't measure independents, but the ones that do are showing significant growth there, and they're leaning towards moderate Democrats. It's one reason I suspect Biden will take the nomination, the other being AA and Hispanic support, especially older. Democrats are also growing. On the gop side a 10% drop in 3 months is significant, and it could drop another 8 to 10% by the GE. It also makes those mysterious photo finish races that have become so commonplace much harder to pull off.

[Under The Radar]

42. Seems different in the South

Or at least the friends that I have that were hard core Trump fans 2-3 years ago are quiet on the subject of politics and some have complained about full of shit he is. No more hard core. Some are sick of the guy and are certainly showing signs of fatigue.
It feels like he may be pulling in around 35% down here, from my gut, no statistics.

[calimary]

46. What was that saying Grover Norquist nagged about?

Something-or-other that gets shrunk down so small we can drown it in a bathtub...

Some entity, specifically.

[jcmaine72]

48. Good! Hopefully they'll shrink to the size of Dotard's STD-withered wee-wee

The reTHug party is little more than a criminal organization at this point. The quicker it evaporates like a puddle of dog pee on a hot sidewalk in July the better for all Americans.

Contrary to what some may believe, we don't need a two party system to have a vibrant, healthy democracy. If the Democratic primaries have shown us anything it's that there is enough of diversity of opinion within our own party to cover just about anyone who isn't a white supremacist or Neo-Nazi. Those people should never have been given a voice in our society to begin with, which is why the reTHUG party will continue to shrink as our nation becomes more racially diverse.

[dustyscamp]

49. I wouldn't trust that poll

[robbedvoter]

50. So, I supposed this will be reflected in sampling for national polls.

Right?RIGHT?

[beachbumbob]

51. the problem is with the fact they ALL vote while too democratic voters are apathetic

a minority have been controlling our govt for most part of 40 years

[rockfordfile]

54. It's been going down for a number of years

[NewJeffCT]

55. This is the real #WalkAway movement

people - especially women - leaving the GOP because of Donny Dollhands