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I know it's not always right to generalize (Original Post) brokephibroke Feb 2020 OP
Nope... Freedomofspeech Feb 2020 #1
Mitt is a giant phony RhodeIslandOne Feb 2020 #2
Venture Capitalist Mitt Romney? Uh, NO WAY! Brainfodder Feb 2020 #3
Yeah, but they're all dead. Aristus Feb 2020 #4
That was going to be my answer. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2020 #15
"Living?" was my first thought as well. nt crickets Feb 2020 #19
There is a morsel of integrity (varying) among nearly all the Never Trumpers... hlthe2b Feb 2020 #5
The is a repub gov of Maryland I believe brokephibroke Feb 2020 #6
Some former ones. Mostly found on MSBN. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #7
I'm thinking ... I'm thinking ... Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #8
Fair enough brokephibroke Feb 2020 #9
I've got nothin.' So, what's your next question? Brother Mythos Feb 2020 #20
Charlie Baker - governor of MA. Tracer Feb 2020 #10
Thanks, I knew there were a couple good ones back east. brokephibroke Feb 2020 #11
If Mitt is one of "the best (reTHUGS) there is" then it's no wonder that the party is going down in abqtommy Feb 2020 #12
I'm from Boston Rider3 Feb 2020 #13
Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Thomas Dewey... JHB Feb 2020 #14
We have to look at with the underpinnings of Conservatism/Republicanism are. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #16
Mitt? llmart Feb 2020 #17
God bless poor Seamus brokephibroke Feb 2020 #18
I knew Mitt would stand against trump brokephibroke Feb 2020 #21
Lowell Weicker? madinmaryland Feb 2020 #22
Good call.... brokephibroke Feb 2020 #23
Joe Walsh and George Conway seem like okay people dustyscamp Feb 2020 #24
George Conway: I believe the president, and in the president. elleng Feb 2020 #26
I think he was just making fun of the GOP Senators in that dustyscamp Feb 2020 #28
was looking for an onion, and didn't find one. elleng Feb 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author dustyscamp Feb 2020 #29
Steve Schmidt Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #25
Mike Bloomberg. jcmaine72 Feb 2020 #27
I will not ever vote for any repuke ever not even dog shit picker upper demtenjeep Feb 2020 #30
Justin Amash? RussBLib Feb 2020 #32
I cannot think of any Skittles Feb 2020 #33
Former SOS Colin Powell and his Aide Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson Baked Potato Feb 2020 #34

hlthe2b

(102,238 posts)
5. There is a morsel of integrity (varying) among nearly all the Never Trumpers...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020

Do I forget or forgive them their past enabling and in some cases, dirty trick campaigns to get less obnoxious (than Trump) R's elected? Hell no.

That said, they are not speaking out without personal cost. I salute them for that... the Rick Wilsons, the Steve Schmidts, the Nicole Wallaces, and yes, with significant lingering skepticism, the George Conways of the world.

There is a spectrum and no I don't forget where their core beliefs/principals come into direct conflict with our own.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
8. I'm thinking ... I'm thinking ...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:14 PM
Feb 2020

Sorry, but I'm going to need more time to think about this before I answer the question.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
20. I've got nothin.' So, what's your next question?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 06:48 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2020, 08:19 PM - Edit history (1)

I just can't seem to differentiate between "total piece of shit," and "plain, ordinary piece of shit."

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
12. If Mitt is one of "the best (reTHUGS) there is" then it's no wonder that the party is going down in
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:21 PM
Feb 2020

flames. He's a total scumbag and I ain't referring to Devin Nunes' cow...

JHB

(37,159 posts)
14. Abe Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Thomas Dewey...
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:30 PM
Feb 2020

...Millicent Fenwick, Jacob Javitz...

I'm sure you can detect the obvious theme here.


I'll include Romney... George, that is, not his Trump-enabling son.


Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
16. We have to look at with the underpinnings of Conservatism/Republicanism are.
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020

I am sure you can find Republicans who are half-way decent or who are at least, not complete monsters. The problem is, what do they support? What is the end goal of Republican thought. What do they want to achieve as their stated goals and as what we know of them historically and in today's context.

We know that they have thrown in their support for a person who is completely corrupt and who has shown no loyalty to the actual country of the United States while putting out an image of America that is anathema to its stated values.

Republicans seem to thrive in authority, and conformity. They talk about freedom but they prefer order and would likely choose order rather than freedom so long as the order follows their ideals. They like to say that liberals are "imposing" or more likely "shoving our beliefs down their throats". The funny thing is that liberals tend to advocate for the expression of certain ideas and and conservative for others. Each side wants to have their ideas respected, however liberal ideas tend to be more inclusive while conservative ideas more exclusive.

A liberal would likely say that you can be Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, etc... just don't try to impose particular practices on me or on society. A conservative would complain that having to respect the different aspects of those other religions was a threat to their freedom to express themselves.

That is a fundamental difference. Now, a particular Republican may be more or less open to the idea of tolerance but they support a platform that promotes the dominance of one religious view over all others.

There are likely a lot of Republicans who are decent people, but their ideology leads to what we have right now with Trump.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
17. Mitt?
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:41 PM
Feb 2020

You mean the Mitt who put his dog on top of the family car? The Mitt who bullied schoolmates at his upper crust prep school?

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
18. God bless poor Seamus
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 04:45 PM
Feb 2020

I won’t defend that, but lately he has been the only vaguely reasonable voice the gop has.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
26. George Conway: I believe the president, and in the president.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:59 PM
Feb 2020

'I believe the president, and in the president.

I believe the Senate is right to acquit the president. I believe a fair trial is one with no witnesses, and that the trial was therefore fair. I believe the House was unfair because it found evidence against him. I believe that if the president does something that he believes will get himself reelected, that’s in the public interest and can’t be the kind of thing that results in impeachment.

I believe former national security adviser John Bolton has no relevant testimony because he didn’t leave the White House on good terms.'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/05/george-conway-trump-i-believe/?itid=pm_pop

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Response to elleng (Reply #26)

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
27. Mike Bloomberg.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:08 PM
Feb 2020

He's a Democrat now, have you heard? All past sins are now forgiven, even the one's he didn't apologize for.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
30. I will not ever vote for any repuke ever not even dog shit picker upper
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:13 PM
Feb 2020

for ever and neither will my husband or children

never ever

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