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Coronavirus - graphs (Original Post) denem Feb 2020 OP
Serious threat, useless post. Graphs without source data attribution, context or explanation. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #2
Thanks for at least adding the source to these lonely, uninterpreted graphs. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #3
Such hostility. denem Feb 2020 #5
To lazy data science practices regarding a pandemic? Absolutely. Show some respect for DU. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #7
Not a random Web site. See the site's FAQ: Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #10
OP didn't even include link or cite. Just graphs. Bad practice and it deserves to be called out (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #11
Perhaps things should be "called out" in a friendlier way. secondwind Feb 2020 #30
If one posts bad data science wo explanation one risks curt critique. DU deserves similar respect... FreepFryer Feb 2020 #31
Moreover, the data for those graphs comes solely from Chinese authorities (see bottom of page). FreepFryer Feb 2020 #12
They are indeed official Chinese data, and incomplete Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #28
Thanks for the link Ghost Dog! (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #29
IKR? Croney Feb 2020 #14
I know - it's almost as if good data science during a pandemic matters! (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #15
john Hopkins CSSE pandemic tracking lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #4
Thank you for this. I share concerns about underreporting of cases. Personal quarantines... FreepFryer Feb 2020 #6
I have been going to this sight for latest cases, as a non scientist, it gives me the info I want. Tech Feb 2020 #8
It's my go-to site as well, and I thank the OP. Croney Feb 2020 #9
Nice the OP finally provided the link after pointing out the uselessness of unsourced data. (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #13
That was remedied within five minutes. denem Feb 2020 #16
Shouldn't post graphs without their sources. And still no intepretation. Thanks for next to nothing. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #17
I see you added the linear and logarithmic graphs, which only compare graphing differences. FreepFryer Feb 2020 #18
Thou does protest too much nt. denem Feb 2020 #19
Thou dost have zero relevant expertise. (nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #20
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #21
Remembered Stats 101. (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #22
Thanks for the kick. denem Feb 2020 #23
Well that would be harder than your empty screenshot so I'd require you to pay for my time. nt FreepFryer Feb 2020 #27
Dude. Not cool. moriah Feb 2020 #24
Thanks for the kind comment. Amazing how low some go when they defend ignorance. (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2020 #26
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Feb 2020 #25

Response to FreepFryer (Reply #1)

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
3. Thanks for at least adding the source to these lonely, uninterpreted graphs.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 07:42 AM
Feb 2020

Next, let’s correlate it to something cool, like pirates and ice cream.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
7. To lazy data science practices regarding a pandemic? Absolutely. Show some respect for DU.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:05 AM
Feb 2020

You screenshotted two graphs about a pandemic from a random Web site that appear to show a climbing rate, but didn’t explain the graphs, nor even cite them.

The height of laziness and irresponsibility.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
10. Not a random Web site. See the site's FAQ:
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:48 AM
Feb 2020
Worldometer shows estimated current numbers based on statistics and projections from the most reputable official organizations.

Our sources include the United Nations Population Division, World Health Organization (WHO), Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), International Monetary Fund (IMF), and World Bank.

We analyze the available data, perform statistical analysis, and build our algorithm which feeds the real time estimate.

Our counters have been licensed for the United Nations Conference Rio+20, BBC News, U2 concert, World Expo, and prestigious museums and events worldwide...

https://www.worldometers.info/faq/

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
30. Perhaps things should be "called out" in a friendlier way.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:43 AM
Feb 2020

We are slowly becoming like those we despise.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
31. If one posts bad data science wo explanation one risks curt critique. DU deserves similar respect...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:20 AM
Feb 2020

...lest we begin to ignore the origin, limits and context of information pasted from external sites.

In so doing, we would become like those whom we oppose.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
12. Moreover, the data for those graphs comes solely from Chinese authorities (see bottom of page).
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:08 AM
Feb 2020

The sources you list are comprehensive but are not the basis of the contents of the Coronavirus page.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
4. john Hopkins CSSE pandemic tracking
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 07:57 AM
Feb 2020
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

There are two "good things" about this tracking graph at the lower right. There is a slight decline in the rate of new cases in China... TBD if this is significant yet. The other bit is the places outside of China growth where the growth rate is essentially flat.

The bad news is the rumor that the cases in China may be vastly under reported due to a lack of test kits.

But there is enough data so far to warrant a declaration of a pandemic. WHO and the CDC should speed the discovery of a vaccine or treatment (again, rumor from Vietnam is that a combination of Tamiflu and another anti-virus drug show promise is helping the recovery of at-risk individuals, not a cure, but possible life saving treatment).

I am watching the infection cases in my area of the US because I would be considered at-risk (older person with pre-existing health risks). When there are more than something like 10 cases in my neck of the woods... I will be curtailing all interactions with other people... a sort of self imposed isolation, with frequent washing of hands and wearing a mask to prevent my hands from touching my nose or mouth (that said, the effectiveness of such measures is more or less unknown as even the transmission vector is still speculative).

Oddly enough, my company has already started encouraging people to work from home for the duration... and it is now mandatory for our division in China.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
6. Thank you for this. I share concerns about underreporting of cases. Personal quarantines...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:01 AM
Feb 2020

...for at-risk populations are indeed a prudent step. Hopes that they will be unnecessary but this does indeed look pandemic.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
17. Shouldn't post graphs without their sources. And still no intepretation. Thanks for next to nothing.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:55 AM
Feb 2020

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
18. I see you added the linear and logarithmic graphs, which only compare graphing differences.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:57 AM
Feb 2020

Still no actual expertise or information.

I can only assume you have little if any actual knowledge about this subject, and cannot even interpret the graphs you post.

I can tell, because this post is getting less useful the more u add.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
20. Thou dost have zero relevant expertise. (nt)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:00 AM
Feb 2020

It’s “dost” in that quote, next time you wanna use Shakespeare to blather.

Response to denem (Reply #19)

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
23. Thanks for the kick.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:03 AM
Feb 2020

Why don't you do a Box-Jenkins on the aggregate numbers and tell me what the deaths will be in the USA?

moriah

(8,311 posts)
24. Dude. Not cool.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:04 AM
Feb 2020

And if I haven't already taken mine, I'd try to use it as a reminder to take them.

But I have, so no purpose served.

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