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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:46 AM Feb 2020

Trumps approval ratings are ✨ NOT ✨ going up He's still banding in the low 40s!!!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/


The gallop poll was middle of last month !!!


I'm soooooooooooo fuckin sick of lazy asses in the us M$M !!!


This looks like a push


Relatively speaking Trump is not getting an impeachment bump that Clinton got
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Trumps approval ratings are ✨ NOT ✨ going up He's still banding in the low 40s!!! (Original Post) uponit7771 Feb 2020 OP
It was so obvious they released this poll for the state of the union speech kimbutgar Feb 2020 #1
Yes ... wtf is up with Gallup !?! I thought they were more non partisan than this uponit7771 Feb 2020 #6
15 years ago Gallup was respectable, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #14
+1 crickets Feb 2020 #17
plus I think Gallup is out of Omaha NJCher Feb 2020 #19
+1, Fauk News gives Red Don a 10 - 20% float uponit7771 Feb 2020 #22
Ask me a question about Janis Joplin, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #32
Thank you for your truth full Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #29
Thank you ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #2
The Gallup poll also NewJeffCT Feb 2020 #3
That is not a real poll then! That is just a manipulation of numbers. Maraya1969 Feb 2020 #9
Yup - thanks to another DUer we have the numbers. lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #18
Gallup tends to skew to the right rather than the left. calimary Feb 2020 #30
but, but, but....it was all over the news that his ratings were up the day of his SOTU spanone Feb 2020 #4
On CNN this morning, mcar Feb 2020 #5
Maybe when he shuts CNN down they will realize they should have been true journalists. CrispyQ Feb 2020 #8
And CNN has their own poll that contradicts Gallup Bradical79 Feb 2020 #43
He should be in the low 30s. That's what upsets me. OliverQ Feb 2020 #7
When the economy tanks... and it will, he won't be able to get to 20% approval maxrandb Feb 2020 #11
Fauk news gives Trump a 10 - 20 point approval float uponit7771 Feb 2020 #24
The Ipsos poll today had 42% approve and 54% disapprove titaniumsalute Feb 2020 #10
Polls do not matter MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #12
THANK YOU! leftieNanner Feb 2020 #13
Ditto, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #15
Not disagreeing...just a thought. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2020 #26
Republicans turn out no matter the polls MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #38
Thanks for that. Scab-burrow was crowing about it this morning. lagomorph777 Feb 2020 #16
If the MSM was saying he's doomed in November.... Brainfodder Feb 2020 #20
M$M needs a horse race BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #31
Actually they are going up... johnnyplankton Feb 2020 #21
That's noise within a band not an uptick uponit7771 Feb 2020 #25
When I get called to respond to a poll, gab13by13 Feb 2020 #33
They tried this in 2018. rockfordfile Feb 2020 #23
I told you folks this was a PSYOP underthematrix Feb 2020 #27
I'm thinking this push includes some uponit7771 Feb 2020 #28
Folks .. news people.. will go after the most interesting. Srkdqltr Feb 2020 #34
Some are just plane lazy and wont do a bit of background on data, they report what their peers uponit7771 Feb 2020 #41
Media: what story can we over exaggerate today? Fla Dem Feb 2020 #35
I heard this morning on CNN it was 49% Catherine Vincent Feb 2020 #36
Gallops 20% republican over sampled and 3 week old poll is 49%, the rest of the polling is low 40s uponit7771 Feb 2020 #40
Yay! You just made my day by posting this. KPN Feb 2020 #37
Media are ALWAYS going to try... dchill Feb 2020 #39
How can his numbers POSSIBLY be that high? BobTheSubgenius Feb 2020 #42
Fauk News gives him a 10 - 20% float uponit7771 Feb 2020 #44

kimbutgar

(21,044 posts)
1. It was so obvious they released this poll for the state of the union speech
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:54 AM
Feb 2020

So that rooster had something to crow about.

gab13by13

(21,247 posts)
14. 15 years ago Gallup was respectable,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:01 PM
Feb 2020

but it got caught using bogus data in the 2008 primary/election. Gallup lost its respectability 15 years ago.

I get tired of posting this but polls are used for propaganda. I doubt that Trump's popularity is 40%. I laugh when polls come out.

NJCher

(35,618 posts)
19. plus I think Gallup is out of Omaha
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020

And you know who else is located there. Think election machines.

gab13by13

(21,247 posts)
32. Ask me a question about Janis Joplin,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:06 PM
Feb 2020

my long term memory is better.

It had to do with a trend, I can't remember what the trend was but it was consistently falling 2% in each of the last several elections. Gallup not only didn't follow the trend it went the other way which skewed their prediction toward McCain, I believe.

Whatever it was, Gallup did the opposite of what was trending.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. Thank you for your truth full
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:57 PM
Feb 2020

response. The Media Whores love these false Narrative pieces of Propaganda. And yes they had some respectability pre 2000,and even in that time frame,they tended to script their Polling Q&A in a very conservative manner.

As one team lead said,remember who's paying the freight.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. The Gallup poll also
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:00 AM
Feb 2020

sampled way too many Republicans

Easy to skew the results - I remember CNN doing it after the Biden/Ryan debate in 2012 - they sampled way more Republicans than Democrats and it came out as 50-50, a tie.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
18. Yup - thanks to another DUer we have the numbers.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12948326

He's under-performing even among Russiapublican voters.
Repubs are 54% of the sample, but only 49% of the sample approve.

"Results are based on telephone interviews conducted January 16-29, 2020 with a random sample of –1,033—
adults, ages 18+, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia. For results based on this sample of
national adults, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.
For results based on the sample of -- 946 -- registered voters, the margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage
points at the 95% confidence level.
For results based on the sample of -- 443 -- Democrats and Democratic leaning independents, the margin of
sampling error is ±6 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.
For results based on the sample of -- 527 -- Republicans and Republican leaning independents, the margin of
sampling error is ±5 percentage points at the 95% confidence levell".

file:///C:/Users/Rich/Downloads/200204Political%20(1).pdf

calimary

(81,098 posts)
30. Gallup tends to skew to the right rather than the left.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:01 PM
Feb 2020

I’ve heard that same assessment for years by now.

spanone

(135,781 posts)
4. but, but, but....it was all over the news that his ratings were up the day of his SOTU
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:01 AM
Feb 2020

the media will elect this dictator again

mcar

(42,278 posts)
5. On CNN this morning,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:02 AM
Feb 2020

the anchor just casually said "his approval is at 49" without qualifying that one poll.

They are back into horse race mode.

CrispyQ

(36,419 posts)
8. Maybe when he shuts CNN down they will realize they should have been true journalists.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:21 AM
Feb 2020

I don't understand a media that enables a dictator-type who has expressed his disdain for the free press. Are their corporate masters also suffering from "it can't happen here?"

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
43. And CNN has their own poll that contradicts Gallup
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 03:49 PM
Feb 2020

CNN is 43-53 from around the same time period. It's bad when they won't even cite their own poll in favor of the outlier.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
7. He should be in the low 30s. That's what upsets me.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:17 AM
Feb 2020

He should be no where near that 50% mark. He's a monster.

maxrandb

(15,295 posts)
11. When the economy tanks... and it will, he won't be able to get to 20% approval
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:40 AM
Feb 2020

Democrats need to wrench the Obama economy back from these fucksticks.

Obama had this economy soaring without 5 TRILLION IN DEBT being left to our great-great grandchildren.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
12. Polls do not matter
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

Getting people to the polls does.

No point in looking at these. No matter what they say we need to get out and vote. Not only ourselves but we each need to bring 10 people who would not otherwise vote.

gab13by13

(21,247 posts)
15. Ditto,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:03 PM
Feb 2020

I doubt that Trump's favorability is 40%. See my above post concerning Gallup. It is not a respected poll any longer.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,371 posts)
26. Not disagreeing...just a thought.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:46 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe polls do matter because in todays social media driven world so many people count on being able to read about what the “majority” opinion is or how like minded thinkers are leaning to make up their minds versus doing their own thinking??

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
38. Republicans turn out no matter the polls
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

Democrats and independents turn out if they feel like they have to. A lot of people thought Hillary had it in the bag and didn’t bother. In Red states they figure why bother - then when they see they have a shot we see Colorado go blue. Virginia went blue. Arizona, Georgia and Texas are on the way. Mississippi and Alabama could actually be competitive if we could register and turn out all of the people who feel it is hopeless.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Thanks for that. Scab-burrow was crowing about it this morning.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

That was just before his daily assault on Democratic candidates' health care proposals (M$NBC has got to keep all their insurance company advertisers happy!).

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
20. If the MSM was saying he's doomed in November....
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:31 PM
Feb 2020

We'd be happy, but then who would keep watching?

This is all about keeping people unsure and watching for the ratings and ad revenue.

Unless there is a major fix in, blob should have no chance in hell of winning re-election, the reason.... he has no gains over time in support, only losses?

There are so many ways to attack him in ad buys this should be a funny campaign ad season.

I watch so little TV though, I will be looking for them here!

/cheers!



SOTU was just to keep his dummies happy and in line?



johnnyplankton

(351 posts)
21. Actually they are going up...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:33 PM
Feb 2020

Per 538: On January 11 Approval was 41.8, Disapproval 53.5

On February 4 Approval was 43.4, Disapproval 52.1

This is not good....

gab13by13

(21,247 posts)
33. When I get called to respond to a poll,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:09 PM
Feb 2020

I may consider that poll legitimate. I haven't been called in 55 years.

Polls are for propaganda, including 538.

Srkdqltr

(6,226 posts)
34. Folks .. news people.. will go after the most interesting.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:25 PM
Feb 2020

Right or wrong say something interesting and it will be printed and reported. Hillery did not say much that was reported. She wasn't on TV enough. A candidate has to be on network TV. Talk shows. Has to be seen by more than people who can come to rallies. Trump knows that and uses it to his advantage. The person who runs against him will have to do way more and make printable remarks. Talk to anyone and everyone.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
41. Some are just plane lazy and wont do a bit of background on data, they report what their peers
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:19 PM
Feb 2020

... report and there's a terrible sense of mind meld among them.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
40. Gallops 20% republican over sampled and 3 week old poll is 49%, the rest of the polling is low 40s
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:17 PM
Feb 2020

... and more up to date.

Why 538 is including Gallup is stupid seeing it so old

KPN

(15,635 posts)
37. Yay! You just made my day by posting this.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:36 PM
Feb 2020

When I saw that 49% report late last night or in the wee hours this morning (can’t remember which) it made me pretty glum. I was starting to lose my faith in mankind. Those fuckers we’re trying to do exactly that ... stage last night’s spectacle then dash their enemies’ hopes. Fucking bastards.

We are their enemy which makes them ours and we’re coming after them!

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