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Kyle Griffin ✔ @kylegriffin1
Statement from Sen. Doug Jones: "After many sleepless nights, I have reluctantly concluded that the evidence is sufficient to convict the President for both abuse of power and obstruction of Congress."
11:00 AM - Feb 5, 2020
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Manchin's still struggling with it:
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Katherine Faulders ✔@KFaulders
Manchin says we wont find out how hell vote before 4pm. I agonized. Its been very difficult for me.
I feel very strong about the decision I will make. Its going to be a very, very personal decision. Its very difficult, he said, per @caphilltrish
11:02 AM - Feb 5, 2020
No idea how Sinema's going to vote, either. Given her performance last night, an acquital vote from her wouldn't shock me.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)we were going to regardless of his vote. Really like him.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)His record tells all, I hope I am pleasantly surprised...all the theatrics about "being very personal, and so difficult..." Sure, OK...
Polly Hennessey
(6,787 posts)dalton99a
(81,392 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)He is a man of principles, unlike the sycophants and power-hungry cultists.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)AdamGG
(1,286 posts)Demonaut
(8,914 posts)Bayard
(22,005 posts)If he turns traitor. No excuse!
I hope Schumer is sitting on his shoulder.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)votes to convict. Losing his seat would be bad for us, no other dem (even if in nm only) could win there. He the best we can do and we need him for numbers to regain Senate. That to me is more important than his vote at this point.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)Denial is strong in those W. VA people.
another Democrat runs against him-a real Democrat
AdamGG
(1,286 posts)I'd rather have Manchin vote to acquit and have one more seat toward a Democratic majority. It's a meaningless vote, since they won't have a majority and definitely won't have 67.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)Because he is doing what is right and best for the country above his self interest. It is also against the best interest of our party. We need the seat more, but being right and doing the right thing should still mean something.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)It isn't in the best interest of our party when one of our own members votes to ignore treason, just for a few votes by some rubes back home. We keep the senate seat by changing minds, and recruiting those who feel disenfranchised, that their situation is hopeless, and didn't vote last time.
He did what was right, although I question all the "posturing" he went through to pander to those same rubes. He should be SHAMING them.
Pandering, in this instance, shows lack of character. This is NOT an issue that allows ANY middle of the road, "on the fence, it could go either way" stand.
Deciding to support, or not support, FUCKING TRAITORS (which is, unfortunately, now the ENTIRE republican party), is a no-brainer.
And welcome to DU.
edit to add dropped word "seat"
leftinalabama
(30 posts)And I just donated to Doug Jones. He is the only hope politically in this state.
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)And, calling his offices to tell them why.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)He's a Dem after all!
tritsofme
(17,370 posts)and not permanently disgrace himself in an attempt to placate Trumpers who will never vote for him.
moondust
(19,958 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:58 PM - Edit history (1)
To my knowledge the two articles don't even include all the emoluments, wasted taxpayer millions on perpetual golf trips/vacations, flagrant nepotism, and more! Maybe some of that is covered by the Abuse of Power in Article 1.
Good job, Doug!
In It to Win It
(8,225 posts)W_HAMILTON
(7,835 posts)Not much, but I like to try and show support for our guys that do the right thing.
Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)If we can throw Individual-1 out of office in November, I'm sure the next Democratic administration will reward him in some way.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)People of Alabama got what they voted for.
NNadir
(33,470 posts)Senator Jones is a bit of a fluke, but who knows, anything can happen. Even in Alabama, there may be some popular support for integrity and justice.
Who thought then years ago that the Republican Party would devolve into a slavish cadre of Putin apologists?
Who thought flag wavers would openly embrace treason?
yellowdogintexas
(22,231 posts)because the vote will be to acquit at the end of it all. We need to all be stronger together more than ever before.
I missed the things she stood up for but there were a few other women in white who stood for a couple of things as well as some of the men. I personally do not remember anything worth even giving silent nods but then that's me.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)He has incumbency and many newly activated voters behind him now. At the very least make them work their asses off to take him down.