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question everything

(47,437 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:20 PM Feb 2020

Dear Evangelicals

You claim that your actions are guided by your belief in your god. Yet, you have been supporting someone whose every actions is an offense to any god. Liar, cheater, fornicator... and all seven (?) sins.

And earlier today, Senator Romney who, like you, claims to have his god guiding his actions said this:

The allegations made in the articles of impeachment are very serious. As a senator-juror, I swore an oath before God to exercise impartial justice. I am profoundly religious. My faith is at the heart of who I am. I take an oath before God as enormously consequential. I knew from the outset that being tasked with judging the president, the leader of my own party, would be the most difficult decision I have ever faced. I was not wrong.

And now what do you say?



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Dear Evangelicals (Original Post) question everything Feb 2020 OP
And I'd like to add this thought The Blue Flower Feb 2020 #1
Evangelicals think that Mormonism is a cult. They don't like Mitt. Funtatlaguy Feb 2020 #2
Seriously, they're not going to listen to Romney. SMC22307 Feb 2020 #10
The "prosperity gospel" collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investors/donor keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #12
OK. But I have often thoughts that individuals for whom faith is important question everything Feb 2020 #16
Trump shows what pious phonies they truly are. It's all about $$$ for them. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2020 #3
Many put abortion above all other issues. eom guillaumeb Feb 2020 #4
It's a device their clergy uses to galvanize and fleece congregants. Nothing in Bible supports that. TheBlackAdder Feb 2020 #7
They speak of being pro-life, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #9
They could have overturned Roe v. Wade anytime.. Permanut Feb 2020 #11
They won't deprive themselves of such an important issue. Arkansas Granny Feb 2020 #13
We know that. Informed voters know that. guillaumeb Feb 2020 #17
They can go smite themselves. CaptYossarian Feb 2020 #5
For practical reasons, Mormons are likely to take their faith a bit more seriously localroger Feb 2020 #6
They said Trump was like these "imperfect" people in the bible who were still doing god's work zzz.. NCLefty Feb 2020 #8
They think Trump is sinful Cyrus, who paved the way for Ezra... Hekate Feb 2020 #14
god is a myth. yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #15

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
10. Seriously, they're not going to listen to Romney.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:58 PM
Feb 2020

Courts are stacked and many of them are rolling in Prosperity Gospel dough. They'd turn a blind eye if Fat Nixon *did* murder someone on Fifth Avenue, they're that far gone.

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
12. The "prosperity gospel" collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investors/donor
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:11 PM
Feb 2020

The "prosperity gospel" collectors seem to do much better in the prosperity than the investors/donors.

question everything

(47,437 posts)
16. OK. But I have often thoughts that individuals for whom faith is important
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:16 PM
Feb 2020

at least are respectful of other religions with equally committed followers. Thus, Catholics respect religious Jews and Muslims and others. Perhaps I am naive..

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,925 posts)
3. Trump shows what pious phonies they truly are. It's all about $$$ for them.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

Romney simply has enough money he doesn't need to suck up to the moneybags evangelical crowd.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. They speak of being pro-life,
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

but a consistent pro-life position would include far more than the position of being simply pro-birth.

Permanut

(5,569 posts)
11. They could have overturned Roe v. Wade anytime..
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:08 PM
Feb 2020

in the two years from January 2017 to January 2019, when the wackos controlled the White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Supreme Court. But all we heard from them was crickets.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
13. They won't deprive themselves of such an important issue.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

If they did manage to ban abortions, they would lose the one argument that draws so much of their base.

localroger

(3,622 posts)
6. For practical reasons, Mormons are likely to take their faith a bit more seriously
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020

For all their faults (and there are many) Mormons don't tend to assume their membership in the LDS gives them an automatic pass to do whatever they want. Their faith separates them from a vast majority surrounding them, so they have to ask hard questions of themselves about how seriously they take that faith. A lot of Christians, particularly Evangelicals, tend to assume that because they are members of the pre-forgiven chosen club that they can do whatever they want, especially if God has proven their worthiness by making them wealthy or even just white.

I believe Mitt's inner conflict here to be genuine, and his decision to be an act of as much fortitude as one might ever expect from a member of the 0.1%. He may be giving up a lot of things he has worked for for decades, but he is probably gaining a good night's peaceful sleep should he think of what the God he worships and probably genuinely believes in might be thinking of him.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
8. They said Trump was like these "imperfect" people in the bible who were still doing god's work zzz..
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 10:52 PM
Feb 2020

You can twist anything in the bible to evil ends. Its been used to justify slavery, segregation, ban on interracial marriage, etc. etc. etc.

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
14. They think Trump is sinful Cyrus, who paved the way for Ezra...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:19 AM
Feb 2020

The Opus Dei who have overrun our SCOTUS and DOJ, and the Evangelicals, are both cultish entities that can justify anything in the name of their God.


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