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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:36 PM Feb 2020

Pelosi On SOTU: I Don't Need 'Lessons About Dignity' From This President

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Pelosi On SOTU: I Don’t Need ‘Lessons About Dignity’ From This President
By Kate Riga
February 6, 2020 12:10 p.m.


A notably animated House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) decried President Donald Trump’s State of the Union address Thursday, calling it a “manifesto of mistruths” and a “reality show” using the House of Representatives as a backdrop.

“The whole State of the Union was beneath the dignity of the White House, an insult to the Congress of the United States and the American people,” she said at her weekly press conference, calling it a “state of his mind” address rather than the State of the Union.


Now famously, Pelosi tore the speech in half upon Trump’s conclusion, a move which drew swift and full-throated denunciation from Trump’s allies.

When pressed on the act Thursday, she snapped that she doesn’t need “lessons about dignity” from anyone, but especially not from the President.

She added that she felt “liberated” after shredding the document, that as soon as he was about one-third of the way through the speech she knew that she had to do something to show the American people that the address was full of falsehoods.


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Her voice rising, Pelosi said that it is an “absolute imperative” that America have a new President next year, one who does not “denigrate our values,” is not “disloyal to the Constitution” and does not “degrade the environment.”

“He has shredded the truths in his speech, he has shredded the Constitution with his conduct,” she thundered. “I shredded his state of his mind address.”

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Pelosi On SOTU: I Don't Need 'Lessons About Dignity' From This President (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2020 OP
Rock on, Madam Speaker! n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #1
Was hit with joy when she ripped up that shit I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2020 #2
That is totally right Madam Speaker! redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #3
an orange turd can't teach anything about dignity Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #4
Bravo! ibegurpard Feb 2020 #5
The Pelosi 'tear' was seen big time everywhere. Good. empedocles Feb 2020 #6
And it was such an excruciatingly purposeful tear ....... BRAVA!!!! MFGsunny Feb 2020 #7
K&R defacto7 Feb 2020 #8
Link to her brilliant press conference today (full length): SunSeeker Feb 2020 #9
Thanks! lunatica Feb 2020 #19
Me too. 👍🏾 BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2020 #28
"The State of His Mind address" ... perfect! KPN Feb 2020 #10
Definitely better when you capitalise it. knightmaar Feb 2020 #14
She snapped & not she exclaimed or she said, that is a little misogynist. nt yaesu Feb 2020 #11
A little? llmart Feb 2020 #16
Srsly? mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #27
I disagree, but OK. RVN VET71 Feb 2020 #30
My POV happy feet Feb 2020 #32
Yes, that's how I feel too. llmart Feb 2020 #33
You seem to think the verb refers to a loss of control RVN VET71 Feb 2020 #34
A lot. It jumped out immediately. (n/t) SMC22307 Feb 2020 #25
Can't wait to get home Ferryboat Feb 2020 #12
Amen Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #13
Preach it Dave in VA Feb 2020 #15
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #17
K and R Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #18
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Feb 2020 #20
That speech rip was ROCK N' ROLL baby Blue Owl Feb 2020 #21
Madam Speaker is Kicking Ass hangaleft Feb 2020 #22
She's a far better person than I am. wnylib Feb 2020 #23
Can I say bdamomma Feb 2020 #24
Beautiful! K&R Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #26
Kick! burrowowl Feb 2020 #29
Mic Drop happy feet Feb 2020 #31
I love her demtenjeep Feb 2020 #35

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
7. And it was such an excruciatingly purposeful tear ....... BRAVA!!!!
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:40 PM
Feb 2020

Somebody HAD to say it ::

“He has shredded the truths in his speech, he has shredded the Constitution with his conduct,” she thundered. “I shredded his state of his mind address.”

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Thanks!
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:26 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I’m one of those who refuse to watch the media spin any longer, so this is a tremendous help to keep me apprized of important things.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
16. A little?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 04:49 PM
Feb 2020

That's outright sexism. If a man said that they'd have written, "In a strong tone of conviction...".

We need to keep calling out these so-called journalists.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. Srsly?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020

I don't associate 'snapping' with either sex in particular, nor do I think do most people.

Now, had it been 'screeched' or 'wailed' or if she'd 'gotten hysterical' I would see your point.

This is, however, the sort of words the media uses in general to describe how Democrats said something. Us Dems are always 'slamming', 'blasting', 'snapping', 'complaining', and words of that nature.

Republicans, OTOH, they 'question', 'retort', 'assert', 'bellow' and the like.

Annoys the hell outta me.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
30. I disagree, but OK.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:27 PM
Feb 2020

I think the verb works here. She snapped -- meaning she responded quickly and with anger because she was asked a stupid question that suggested she had over-reacted or acted improperly. I think it is absolutely correct to say, hey, the reporter asked a stupid question and she was having none of it. She snapped at the fool and emphasized the difference between the low life in the WH and herself.

Of course "she snapped." I would have, also. Wouldn't you?

happy feet

(869 posts)
32. My POV
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:07 PM
Feb 2020

In my long lifetime I've never heard a man referred to as having 'snapped.' Only women. and her words were clear, deliberate and concise, not what is generally referred to as having 'snapped'.

I understand if you have heard it used with men. That is not my considerable experience.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
33. Yes, that's how I feel too.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:31 PM
Feb 2020

I have never heard a sharp retort by a man characterized as "he snapped". Maybe I just miss those times when reporters say that, though I doubt it.

It is akin to saying "she was snippy". Are men ever referred to as "snippy"?

Language is a powerful tool.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
34. You seem to think the verb refers to a loss of control
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 10:02 PM
Feb 2020

and possibly, albeit momentarily, sanity. If so, I disagree with your interpretation. The verb used here means she immediately and impatiently replied to a very stupid question.

Ferryboat

(922 posts)
12. Can't wait to get home
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 04:05 PM
Feb 2020

After work to watch this, and the WH event at noon.

Apparently that was way over the top.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
22. Madam Speaker is Kicking Ass
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

And taking no prisoners.

Words fail me. I am in awe of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

I’m a 70 yo white male. In my 70 years I have had four idols — Mickey Mantle, George Carlin, Barbara Jordan and Dave Letterman.

I now have a fifth. Yeah, I admire and respect her that much.

P.S. I know Mantle had his shortcomings, but I was a kid. I offer no apologies for idolizing my childhood hero. And I was disappointed in Carlin when he did that commercial for AT&T (or whatever corporate giant it was). But, as Joe E. Brown said, “Nobody’s perfect.”

wnylib

(21,431 posts)
23. She's a far better person than I am.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:21 PM
Feb 2020

I cannot bring myself to pray for Trump. If I try, it will come out in ways that Jesus did not teach and that my pastor would not approve.

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