Do you think Alexander, Murkowski and Collins are now kicking themselves?

[StarfishSaver]

Romney made them look like spineless, owned fools.

If they could turn back time, I suspect they might have made a different decision.

[Squinch]

1. No. Their pockets were lined somehow.

[TheBlackAdder]

38. Same here. I'm at the "Fuck Your Feelings" stage and just want to see them all voted out!

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Needs to be revised to November 3, 2020. . .



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[2naSalit]

56. +1

[lagomorph777]

67. Definitely not. They never intended to give a shit about America.

[2naSalit]

57. +1

[Iliyah]

2. No, they are too busy counting their monies . . .

[kentuck]

3. They are probably in the "excuse" phase right now.

They may change in the future, at some time?

[bluestarone]

4. NO

NO

[ProudMNDemocrat]

5. I sure fucking hope so.....

I suspect Mainers are going to hound Susie Q Collins about her vote to acquit. How she defends that will be halarious.

The same with Gardiner, Murkowski, McSally, Tillis, Ernst, and every other Republican who knew Trump did what he was impeached for, yet voted to acquit out of fear of reprisals. Chickenshits the lot of them.

Work hard in your state, people. Elect Democrats. The ONLY way we get checks and balances.

[tenderfoot]

6. No.

They got paid.

[diva77]

39. and received "protection"

[tenderfoot]

61. Trump didn't attack them, so yeah

eom

[polichick]

7. They're more likely saying, "Whew, that could've been my head...

on a pike.”

[msongs]

8. why would they, they share the same values as trump nt

[crickets]

19. They certainly don't seem to object. nt

[democrattotheend]

9. Collins might be

Romney made her look especially spineless, and Trump's behavior since then makes her look like an idiot for saying he'd learned from it.

[rurallib]

10. Doubt it - the wavering was only for public consumption

they were all in Trump's pocket from day 1

[MontanaMama]

11. Nope.

spineless cowards that got paid, imho.

[jcgoldie]

12. So lets say Collins fucked herself...

We pick up CO, AZ, and ME... but realistically we won't hold AL... so where does the other one we need come from? IA, NC, GA?

[DarthDem]

46. NC

NC is the most likely. Tillis is a backbenching zero and Cal Cunningham is an excellent candidate. Ernst is also very vulnerable. We have shots at both GA races and possibilities in AK and in KS if Kobach is the nominee there.

[NewJeffCT]

65. Don't discount Jaime Harrison in SC

very smart and charismatic and polling well versus Leningrad Lindsey.

[DarthDem]

89. Good call

I am not writing Jaime off at all. I didn't mention him just because I have personal experience with that state and it has lots of folks with some pretty strange ideas who vote R. There's a not insignificant bloc of corporate types there - and in NC too, particularly in Charlotte - who think the president doesn't affect them personally but will vote "soft Republican" because they incorrectly think that Democrats are anti-business.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

102. SC Senate race is a dead heat...

Jamie Harrison does not suffer fools. Another well educated lawyer

[struggle4progress]

13. They'll be in denial for some time. Then they'll be angry at everybody else

and complain about unfair people are to them. Acknowledging the true story is a long way down the road

[jcgoldie]

17. They are already blaming everyone else

Here is Murkowski's argument for no witnesses and acquittal:

1. He did it.
2. Theres too much partisanship.

therefore:
3. I'm voting along party lines.

WTF?!?

[johnnyfins]

63. F HER and F any other Senator that admitted Trump is Guilty and

voted for Acquittal. F Collins for her Kavanaugh BS. Vote them ALL out. Little Marco too. F 'em ALL

[King_Klonopin]

70. They all admitted "he did it"

their defense was "so what? it wasn't that bad." Romney was the only one
who couldn't abide this dissonance.

The ruthless Republicans acquitted him anyway, but not because he was innocent
or because it was the right thing to do.

They acquitted him because they had the power to do so. This was
an exercise in POWER, not justice. Now they are twisting themselves in knots
trying to justify their abdication of duty.

[empedocles]

14. Unlike DU's tendency to feel the big crisis of the moment, those 3 have

a DC veterans sense of time - and perhaps for 8 months or so, many dynamics can change.

[ornotna]

15. нет!

They don't care about the American people.

[WinstonSmith4740]

74. What's worse...

They don't give a damn about democracy.

[Leith]

16. Nope, they're grateful

that chump is attacking rMoney and Democrats, not them.

[Ferrets are Cool]

18. Not in the least. nt

[people]

20. NO

Definitely not.

[NRaleighLiberal]

21. no.

[ooky]

22. I'm hoping in time they will.

Romney absolutely threw a wrench in the Republicans machinery, making them all look bad. He is the equivalent of the boy who drew attention to the rest of the village that the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes. The entire country knows its true and now they have to live with it through an election season with this awkward situation. Romney hurt them. Its hard to just dismiss a man that voted his conscience, that so many Republicans voted for President such a short time ago. A few Republicans who still have a spine are already beginning to feel pressure to speak out in defense of what Romney did. I'm hoping to see a movement start to build within the party supporting that sentiment and gain momentum.

[TheCowsCameHome]

23. If they don't, we will.

Alexander is all done anyway. One down.

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

24. The only two ...

repug senators who ever called trump out were Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

[WinstonSmith4740]

72. And they were both useless.

Always talked a good story in the media, but they voted the way Mitch told them to.

[LessAspin]

25. No. The target is squarely on Mitt's back now.

Link to tweet

Hunter and the House too...

[BusyBeingBest]

26. No, they just want to hold their seats and/or glide into retirement

with a minimum of trouble.

[Demonaut]

49. slime into retirement

[panader0]

27. Romney gave his speech before the vote. I'm sure they saw it.

If they wanted to change their vote they had plenty of time.

[YOHABLO]

28. As if they have any integrity to even feel remorse. HA !

At this point I wouldn't disagree that their pockets were lined.

[Fiendish Thingy]

29. Well, if Pelosi allows a second round of articles to be filed, they'll get a second chance

The inquiry will continue, and if the Dems are courageous enough to impeach him again, maybe some of the spineless will grow a spine when they are staring at the end of their political careers...

[guillaumeb]

30. That assumes a level of integrity not in evidence.

So, no.

[Brother Mythos]

31. No. They did what their Oligarchs ordered them to do.

And, obviously, they voted to acquit Individual-1 out of greed. Now, they'll just have to hope they can continue to profit from their elected offices.

[greatauntoftriplets]

32. Doubtful.

They are spineless, owned fools who probably pocketed some campaign mone.

[Generic Brad]

33. No. They are kicking Romney instead

If they had a conscience in the first place they would have voted to remove the commander in thief.

[Adsos Letter]

34. Nope.

[SamKnause]

35. Fuck no.

[LenaBaby61]

36. Not one bit.

[wishstar]

37. Romney could not even get them to join him in voting for witnesses

There were reports about him meeting with them and trying to convince them to at least vote for more witnesses and evidence but they were too spineless to even do that let alone convict the criminal

[hatrack]

40. Only if they think it damaged their reelection chances . ..

Otherwise, they don't GAF.

[diva77]

41. The only way to prove remorse would be to leave the party.

[BlueTsunami2018]

42. Nope. Why would they?

They made a calculated decision to do this because they thought it would be to their advantage. If it seemed like the other way was the advantageous way, they’d have done that.

These are spineless worms whose only interest is self interest.

Romney has the luxury of making an independent decision. Utah doesn’t like Тяцмр and he doesn’t need the job.

[budkin]

43. Not at all

They are sleeping like babies.

[Captain Stern]

44. Nope. Not even a little bit.

Why would they be kicking themselves? They were on the winning side. They won. We lost.

It's not even like the game almost went into overtime, and we lost on a bad call, or one play could have turned the game around. The Senate was never going to vote to remove trump. We knew that going in.

They dont care what you think, or what I think, about them being spineless. Susan Collins being 'concerned' is a meme.

They won this round. They voted with the side that won. And about 40% of the people in the country see them as the 'good guys' because they were standing up against an attempted coup by whoever. To that 40% Romney is a traitor that hates America.

They aren't kicking themselves at all...they are congratulating themselves for doing a great job. They've done a great job of making their constituents believe that they are 'different' than other republicans, even when they vote exactly the same as those republicans that they are 'different' than.

[Arthur_Frain]

45. No.

Listen, I wasn’t burning up the phones by any means, but I was calling every day.

I have no idea what the pro/anti ratio was on the phone logs, but you know they all keep them. I wouldn’t trust one damned thing they told me about them.

No, I think we have two possibilities here, either we were badly outnumbered on the phone logs, and she actually heeded her constituency, or else we had the numbers, and she voted as she did anyway.

I have no real way of finding out the truth, but I’m honest enough with myself to admit that up here, we may have been whistling in the dark nearly alone. As difficult as I find that to deal with.

She had her chance. We tried to get her to do it honorably. At one time I deleted an already typed out email suggesting that Mitt was going to, and if she needed a man to get behind his religion might also be a good fit for her. Or something like that. I was pretty cheesed. Fortunately I have a habit of taking one last read with the mouse hovering over the “back” button.

That habit’s made me look smarter than I really am more than once.

[WinstonSmith4740]

73. You answered your own question.

"...or else we had the numbers, and she voted as she did anyway."

But I'm sure she was deeply troubled and concerned. And you should have sent that email. She has no "honor". This is not the first time she's rolled over because Mitch promised to funnel money to Maine.

[Arthur_Frain]

80. This is a burning question for me.

In the run up to the 2016 election, because I drove from AK to the lower 48 twice a year, sometimes 4, I thought those predictions of a HRC tremendous victory might be off by a bit.

Do we really have the numbers? Or do they? We were not founded as a Christian nation, as has been pointed out so many times before. But religions are damned (sorry) effective at metastasizing into populations they didn’t belong in before. I watched the mormons expand aggressively all of my life. I’ve watched the evangelical groups try to do the same thing, but they simply can’t match the mormons financial acumen. Plus with their “be fruitful and multiply” philosophy, they out breed us, we who are concerned that there might be too many people on this planet, and behave accordingly.

There’s a shit ton of “them” I think, and sadly, I think there are some fearful people on “our side” who like to think of themselves as ‘shit stirrers’.

No, emails like that don’t help. Obviously, calling didn’t either. I’m irritated that I had to call and identify myself, I like my anonymity, and I don’t like my name or number being on any politicians call log, but I felt this was important enough that I’d at least try.

Waste of my time. As I knew. But no, the truth is, I don’t think Lisa is “deeply troubled and concerned” at all. The opposition is pretty toothless up here, and everyone knows it, or else Dan Sullivan would have been on the “vote out” list that gets published now, because he’s up I think. But we all know that a democratic senator for the state of Alaska is simply not going to happen.

[SMC22307]

47. No.

Are you new at this?

[WinstonSmith4740]

75. Fortunately, I had already put my coffee down.

Otherwise you would have owed me a new screen!

[SMC22307]

88. Seriously. Susan Collins has been at this for DECADES...

how do people, at this point, not understand her?!

[Demonaut]

48. no, they like laying with pigs

[sakabatou]

50. No. They chose their side and they're fine living with it.

[The empressof all]

51. Nope. Took the road of least resistance

They think the voters are stupid with short memories. They expect no consequence for their behavior...and for some they will be correct.

[Zambero]

52. But Susie said he's learned his lesson!

[BeyondGeography]

53. They've never been wrong about anything

Just ask them.

[MFGsunny]

54. Not a chance. They are FOREVER complicit in the Motion-To-Fix.

There's no "OUT, out damned spot" for any of them.

[Vivienne235729]

55. Hell NO. Those assholes knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They never had ANY intention of voting

For anything other than an acquittal. I hope they all lose their senate seats.

[GeorgeGist]

58. No. They're cowards for life.

[dem4decades]

59. They made their bed, screw them. I doubt they care.

[Bluepinky]

60. No, they're not kicking themselves, but Ms. Collins is very concerned.

I’m sure she’ll write Trump a strongly worded letter telling him she hopes he has learned something from the experience and will change his behavior.

[Marcuse]

62. No

[FiveGoodMen]

64. No

[NotHardly]

66. They would have to care first....

[czarjak]

68. "Stand strong", "Don't blink"...

Right or wrong!

[LiberalFighter]

69. I doubt it. They don't give a damn.

If they did, they would had voted guilty.

[WinstonSmith4740]

71. No they wouldn't.

Because they ARE spineless, owned fools. Today that seems to be a badge of honor among their ilk.

[MerryBlooms]

76. Nyet. They have no conscience.

[Fresh_Start]

77. No, I don't think they will kick themselves

until something happens to them personally.

[lark]

78. Don't think so at all.

They did the masters' bidding and did it for a reason - they were threatened/bribed. Collins husband runs a huge international shipping company that does tons of business with the government - so is easily cowed into doing Impotus3 bidding for her own profit. Don't know what they used against Murkowski and Gardener but they made their bed and it hopefully gets tossed in the trash pile 11/3/20.

[comradebillyboy]

79. No. They fear the wrath of Trump more than they fear

the voters.

[jpak]

81. Nope

n/t

[ArtTownsend]

82. No. They sold whatever conscience they had to the highest bidder long ago.

[DeminPennswoods]

83. Alexander is as phony as a 3 dollar bill, no surprise from him

People are fooled by that folksy demeanor, but he's never bucked his party.

Collins, like my own senator Pat Toomey, values the veneer of independence, but won't vote against anything unless she's given a pass (witnesses) or has cover (McCain on ACA).

Murkowski puzzles me, though. She's comes from a respected and well-known Alaska political family. She won election as a WRITE-IN when AK Rs voted her out in the primary. She has nothing to fear from Trump as far as being re-elected. She is to Alaska as the Casey family is to Pennsylvania. She could be a principled independent like Angus King. Why she doesn't go this route is something I don't understand.

[WinstonSmith4740]

94. She's the only one who surprised me on this.

Can't say I agreed with much of what Romney ever said, but between Trump fucking with him early on and his personal beliefs, I expected him to stand up to Dear Leader. The rest of them were looking for an excuse to acquit him from day one. I was hoping Murkowski had the spine to stand up to him, too, but I guess I was wrong.

[llmart]

95. She was the only one I held out hope for.

She may have some misgivings now, but we'll have to see about that. I doubt she'll admit to it though.

[GoCubsGo]

84. Nope. They should be.

But, they're sociopaths, just like Trump. So, they likely still think they did the right thing--which in the end mans that their own asses are still covered. For now, they are. Whatever dirt Trump has on them will remain buried. But, it will all come out in the end.

[irisblue]

85. No. Loyalty to Trump will get the better no work jobs on corporate boards

Starfish, I'd like to think so, but those 3 are not 1970s gop senators.

[yellowcanine]

86. No, mild pearl clutching at best.

[relayerbob]

87. Don't care

They made their beds, now they to sleep in them. Hope it's really cold there

[zentrum]

90. No. They feel fine.

They are utterly used to their own cynical behavior.

[cstanleytech]

91. Worms have no legs so it's impossible for them to kick themselves.

[stage left]

92. No

but I sure would like to.

[mahina]

93. Waiting for the next wave of bullshit to make everyone forget

But it won’t.

[Nitram]

96. I don't think so. They pretended to think Trump capable of redemption. It was just cover

for what was for them a purely political vote.

[DFW]

97. Collins? No way in the world

She was undoubtedly told, "vote Trump and you get all the money you could ever imagine for your campaign to keep your seat this fall. Vote against him, and you're political obituary is already written. We have it right here. Your call."

[lastlib]

98. Nope, they're happily counting their rubles, and laughing all the way to the bank.

Shame and regret and self-examination are lost quantities in their minds.

[Beartracks]

99. Trump threatened them with their heads on a pike. That can't be ignored, Jury tampering, anyone?

They're still feckless cowards. Perhaps well-compensated in some way, but feckless cowards nonetheless.

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[DallasNE]

100. Not A Chance

Like everybody else, they knew what was coming next. No primary challenge and huge campaign cash. Follow the money.

[aeromanKC]

101. What they are feeling now is peanuts

compared to what the History Books will do to them. And that will be FOREVER!!!!!

Fuck em!!

[ramen]

103. I think that this was Collins' plan all along, so no..

Collins does this every damn time. Act 'moderate' and reasonable beforehand, vote with the evil clown posse that her party has become when the chips are down. Murkowski.. I sure hope so, although I've seen her play this game before, too.

What awful timeline are we living in where I'm praising Mitt Romney for something? Jesus fuck.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

104. I want to say, yes

but probably, no. After all, just think how gosh darn important it was that he NOT be kicked off the ballot in November, right?