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C Moon

(12,208 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:26 PM Feb 2020

Rush Limbaugh denied smoking risks in 2015: 'Smokers aren't killing anybody'

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/02/05/rush-limbaugh-denied-smoking-risks-in-2015-smokers-arent-killing-anybody/

The conservative radio host has long extolled the glamour and societal benefits of smoking, while downplaying its dangers.

Just five years ago, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh went on a pro-tobacco rant on his show, during which he downplayed the risks of smoking, said it’s “a myth” that secondhand smoke causes illness or death and argued that smokers aren’t at any greater risk than people who “eat carrots.”

“Smokers aren’t killing anybody,” the conservative host declared in an April 2015 segment of the “Rush Limbaugh Show,” then argued that tobacco users should be thanked because their purchases generate tax dollars that fund children’s health care programs.

“I’m just saying there ought to be a little appreciation shown for them, instead of having them hated and reviled,” Limbaugh said. “I would like a medal for smoking cigars, is what I’m saying.”
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Rush Limbaugh denied smoking risks in 2015: 'Smokers aren't killing anybody' (Original Post) C Moon Feb 2020 OP
... oasis Feb 2020 #1
He is also an expert on global warming. RDANGELO Feb 2020 #2
Poor Rush newsboy Feb 2020 #17
My B-i-L died of lung cancer, never smoked! at140 Feb 2020 #3
He's a dead man walking Drahthaardogs Feb 2020 #6
Yap, he won't be around much longer... at140 Feb 2020 #7
Warm wishes to you and your wife DesertRat Feb 2020 #15
She is doing OK considering..diagnosed stage-4 cancer 23 months ago at140 Feb 2020 #25
What a blessing that she's responding very well to therapy DesertRat Feb 2020 #34
He's choking on Karma Bluethroughu Feb 2020 #30
Damn, that's horrible! C Moon Feb 2020 #11
That is what's known as anecdotal evidence ... just sayin ... mr_lebowski Feb 2020 #12
Some stats from Cancer. org irisblue Feb 2020 #23
You know what else can emit radon? Mosby Feb 2020 #29
But pretty! -sarcasm irisblue Feb 2020 #31
I watched a show that covered the topic Mosby Feb 2020 #33
JFC why do people on this site do this? SlogginThroughIt Feb 2020 #24
Thank you! I frigging hate people that talk like that. C Moon Feb 2020 #32
They must have been sponsoring him. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #4
That's what I was thinking, as well. C Moon Feb 2020 #9
It is a part of his shtick, all business is good and gov. is bad because it restricts business njhoneybadger Feb 2020 #26
Karma. n/t Coventina Feb 2020 #5
Yep. C Moon Feb 2020 #10
Well, he got his medal... robbob Feb 2020 #8
He killed himself Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #13
"Trust me on this" DesertRat Feb 2020 #14
I'm gonna sue you ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #19
Sorry I didn't post a graphic content warning! DesertRat Feb 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertRat Feb 2020 #16
Back in the 1950s and early 1960s, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2020 #18
+1 llmart Feb 2020 #22
More Doctors Smoked Camels Than Any Other Cigarette pstokely Feb 2020 #36
Rush has said stuff on air to keep listeners listening. no_hypocrisy Feb 2020 #20
Has he given any update on that now ? OnDoutside Feb 2020 #21
lumberbutt pamdb Feb 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author pamdb Feb 2020 #28
 

newsboy

(89 posts)
17. Poor Rush
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:24 AM
Feb 2020

As Gump would say:
GODDDD..... has a climate change waiting for rush

really the damage he has done / fox news / hanity ......
i wish no ill on no one but i wish the damage would stop

at140

(6,110 posts)
3. My B-i-L died of lung cancer, never smoked!
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:32 PM
Feb 2020

But in his law office in Mumbai, everyone smoked in the office.
My wife has lung cancer, and never smoked in her entire life.
But both her parents, old sister smoked in their home in Chicago.
So Rush Limbaugh does not know what he is talking about secondhand smoke.

at140

(6,110 posts)
7. Yap, he won't be around much longer...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:38 PM
Feb 2020

He looked quite sick during the SOTU.
My wife is going through chemo treatment, and those have debilitating effects on the body,
but without chemo cancer will spread faster.

at140

(6,110 posts)
25. She is doing OK considering..diagnosed stage-4 cancer 23 months ago
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:12 PM
Feb 2020

Thank you so much for taking time to post a caring note.
She gets chemo & immune therapy infusions every 3 weeks.
Her cancer specialist doctor says she is responding very well to therapy.
Thank goodness for medicare-advantage insurance, since bills run $30k/month for treatment.

She is still able to do many things she enjoys.
Actually we are signed up for a 5 day cruise near end of this month.
Enjoy your day!

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
34. What a blessing that she's responding very well to therapy
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:17 PM
Feb 2020

And yes, thank goodness for Medicare advantage insurance. I hope you two enjoy the cruise! I'd love to hear about it when you get back.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. That is what's known as anecdotal evidence ... just sayin ...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:18 AM
Feb 2020

People get lung cancer w/o smoking OR ever having been around smokers as well.

And what do you suppose the air quality in general is like ... in Mumbai?

You have to have large scale epidemiological studies to prove assertions like this.

Sorry about your wife, I wish her the best ...

irisblue

(32,928 posts)
23. Some stats from Cancer. org
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:14 AM
Feb 2020

source--https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/why-lung-cancer-strikes-nonsmokers.html
date--October 31, 2019

snip--"As many as 20% of people who die from lung cancer in the United States every year have never smoked or used any other form of tobacco. In fact, if lung cancer in non-smokers had its own separate category, it would rank among the top 10 fatal cancers in the United States."

snip--" Radon gas. The leading cause of lung cancer in non-smokers is exposure to radon gas, according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). It accounts for about 21,000 deaths from lung cancer each year. About 2,900 of these deaths happen among people who never smoked. Radon occurs naturally outdoors in harmless amounts, but sometimes becomes concentrated in homes built on soil with natural uranium deposits. Studies have found that the risk of lung cancer is higher in people who have lived for many years in a radon-contaminated house. Because radon gas can’t be seen or smelled, the only way to know whether it’s a problem in your home is to test for it. A Citizen’s Guide to Radon explains how to test your home for radon easily and inexpensively, as well as what to do if your levels are too high.



Secondhand smoke. Each year, about 7,000 adults die of lung cancer as a result of breathing secondhand smoke. Laws that ban smoking in public places have helped to reduce this danger. The American Cancer Society Cancer Action NetworkSM (ACS CAN) - the nonprofit, nonpartisan advocacy affiliate of the American Cancer Society - is working to expand and strengthen these laws to further protect both people who smoke and those who don't from the dangers of secondhand smoke."


snip--" Air pollution. Researchers have known for a long time that both indoor and outdoor air pollution can contribute to lung cancer. The World Health Organization (WHO) classifies outdoor air pollution as a carcinogen. However, it's believed the risk of lung cancer associated with air pollution is lower in the US than in many other countries because of policies that have helped to lower the levels of exposure."


lots more at article


Mr L, this is a pretty fair source

irisblue

(32,928 posts)
31. But pretty! -sarcasm
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:36 PM
Feb 2020

And almost the height of many a woman's ovaries as well.

My Radiation Biology professor talked about less well known radiation emitters, science is not well learned/studied

Mosby

(16,259 posts)
33. I watched a show that covered the topic
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020

This wealthy couple did their entire kitchen in exotic granite from Africa. The hubby used to eat breakfast every day in the same spot on the island in the kitchen. There was a big chunk of uranium in the granite right where he ate. He's dead now.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
24. JFC why do people on this site do this?
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:20 AM
Feb 2020

Pretty sure they knew it was anecdotal evidence.

Oh hey yer sharing a story about a couple people you know? Let me just be a jerk and tell you why your story doesn't mean anything.

Good grief.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
26. It is a part of his shtick, all business is good and gov. is bad because it restricts business
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:24 PM
Feb 2020

Who do you think tRump's main advisor is

robbob

(3,522 posts)
8. Well, he got his medal...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:55 PM
Feb 2020

Might as well say it’s for smoking. That makes as much sense as anything else...

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,250 posts)
19. I'm gonna sue you ...
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:58 AM
Feb 2020

I'll probably get some kind of brain fungus because of that picture you posted.

On the other hand, the monitor survived.

Response to C Moon (Original post)

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
18. Back in the 1950s and early 1960s,
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:27 AM
Feb 2020

medical doctors had smoking rates well above that of the general population. Even though cigarettes had acquired the nickname "coffin nails" by the 1940s, there was a lot of denial that smoking was at all bad.

Then the Surgeon General's report in 1964 clearly linking smoking with death and illness came out. Very quickly doctors stopped smoking so much.

I have a lot of contempt for those who continue to deny the ill effects of smoking, and equal contempt for anyone who took up smoking after the surgeon general's report. I have no sympathy for smokers who get cancer or heart disease and try to claim, "Oh, dear lord, I had NO idea!" It is hardly breaking news that smoking is bad for you.

As for Rush Limbaugh, I sincerely hope he has a protracted and painful death. It's not what I wish upon the average smoker, but in his case he's been a purveyor of lies, has come down on various groups in an egregious way that merits contempt. So yeah, he needs to suffer. And suffer a lot.

I just hope his doctors give minimal pain medication.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
20. Rush has said stuff on air to keep listeners listening.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:54 AM
Feb 2020

It's irrelevant whether he believed what he said.

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