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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:12 AM Feb 2020

There's a reason the best artists, musicians, comedians, etc are liberal in nature

There’s a reason why the best musicians, artists, actors, comedians, etc are liberal in nature

Esp in comedy. Coming from an authoritarian position, it always is based on denigration and mockery in its vilest of forms. Jokes based upon a person’s looks, disabilities, struggles, etc when coming from a person in a position of privilege or power will never be funny. It’s the most vulgar form of expression.

When comedy does work, it’s from a position of the underdog or self-deprecation. That’s why a struggling comedian making jokes about their hardships works. Or mocking a corporate fat cat or politician works.

This is why people like Limbaugh who think they’re cracking jokes are actually the most vile of people. Racist jokes based on denigrating a group of people will never be funny (eg Limbaugh’s ‘Barack the magic negro’ song he sang on his hate radio show)

The greatest poetry and lyrics were written from positions of struggle and strife, not privilege and power

Empathy is an estimable aspect.

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There's a reason the best artists, musicians, comedians, etc are liberal in nature (Original Post) Roland99 Feb 2020 OP
Good comedy is also.... Jade Fox Feb 2020 #1
Art, music, comedy are also based on imagination, perception, and empathy. eppur_se_muova Feb 2020 #2
Zactly. nt greyl Feb 2020 #6
I think we are heading in the direction of great songs and artists because of struggle and strife Demonaut Feb 2020 #3
And the most hated and disparaged of all are liberals (in our various stripes). JudyM Feb 2020 #4
Conservatives tend to be literal minded utopian Feb 2020 #5
Sure wish Al Franken was still a main course on the Democratic party menu. PufPuf23 Feb 2020 #7

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
1. Good comedy is also....
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:19 AM
Feb 2020

based on contradiction, something conservatives tend not to get as they see things in black and white.

Someone like Limbaugh is just mean, saying things the rest of us are too decent to say.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
2. Art, music, comedy are also based on imagination, perception, and empathy.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:23 AM
Feb 2020

Authoritarians are so lacking in all three as to provide a practical, working definition of an authoritarian.

utopian

(1,093 posts)
5. Conservatives tend to be literal minded
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:48 AM
Feb 2020

They don't often get nuance, and they find punching down amusing. Not a good recipe for comedy.

PufPuf23

(8,756 posts)
7. Sure wish Al Franken was still a main course on the Democratic party menu.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:56 AM
Feb 2020

Unfortunate turn of events and lack of support for Franken.

If Al had been GOP, there would not have been the pressure to resign and he likely would have been all the stronger and empathetic from a fleeting rather than political career ending issue.

Some celebrities have good thoughts to say, others should keep quite. Disappointing to find an artist one likes who turns out to be a rwnj that relishes Trump.

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