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Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:31 PM

Hell has frozen over - my Fox-watching father thinks Trump is "insane."

My father is 92 years old and has been a Long Island Republican for as long as he's lived there (62 years). In Nassau County, it was helpful to be a registered Republican because of the way the county government operated, i.e., if you wanted help, it helped to be a Republican. My father hated Obama - he watches Fox and that changed him from being a reasonable person to being unreasonable.

In any event, he loved Trump. Didn't like Hillary, although "I voted for her the first time" (NY Senate). He gets Trump mail, Trump emails, and still watches Fox and OAN.

Long story short, Dad fell last week and longer story short, I called him from Virginia twice, got no answer, and had his neighbor check on him. He'd been on the floor for over 12 hours, alone. Dad was gravely ill, but he didn't have a stroke. Longer longer story short, he was hospitalized for a week and is in rehab now.

My sister-in-law reported tonight that Dad told her that he changed his party affiliation to Independent. He said there are too many "gutless" people in Washington. And that "Trump is insane."

I'm stunned. I said to my sister-in-law, "Are we SURE he didn't have a stroke?"

I love my Dad. This makes it easier for me to love him unconditionally.

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Reply Hell has frozen over - my Fox-watching father thinks Trump is "insane." (Original post)
phylny Feb 2020 OP
Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #1
UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #5
dewsgirl Feb 2020 #2
phylny Feb 2020 #8
kimbutgar Feb 2020 #3
phylny Feb 2020 #10
packman Feb 2020 #23
bullwinkle428 Feb 2020 #36
coti Feb 2020 #4
phylny Feb 2020 #11
UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #6
phylny Feb 2020 #15
elleng Feb 2020 #7
phylny Feb 2020 #12
MFM008 Feb 2020 #9
MontanaMama Feb 2020 #13
phylny Feb 2020 #14
MontanaMama Feb 2020 #16
Hortensis Feb 2020 #18
SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #17
phylny Feb 2020 #30
Karadeniz Feb 2020 #19
Joinfortmill Feb 2020 #20
Blue_true Feb 2020 #21
phylny Feb 2020 #32
Blue_true Feb 2020 #34
Loryn Feb 2020 #22
phylny Feb 2020 #33
ooky Feb 2020 #24
eleny Feb 2020 #25
efhmc Feb 2020 #26
Ohiogal Feb 2020 #27
Pepsidog Feb 2020 #28
Rebl2 Feb 2020 #29
tavernier Feb 2020 #31
phylny Feb 2020 #35
MLAA Feb 2020 #37
riversedge Feb 2020 #38
GeoWilliam750 Feb 2020 #39
coeur_de_lion Feb 2020 #40
Collimator Feb 2020 #41
Aussie105 Feb 2020 #42
diva77 Feb 2020 #43
LiberalFighter Feb 2020 #44
roamer65 Feb 2020 #45
cilla4progress Feb 2020 #46
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oldsoftie Feb 2020 #48
starphlo Feb 2020 #49
jimlup Feb 2020 #50
sdfernando Feb 2020 #51
Ilsa Feb 2020 #52
whathehell Feb 2020 #53
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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:33 PM

1. That is real question are there enough voters out there who have come the same conclusion.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:38 PM

5. We know one thing...he hasn't gained any voters. nt

 

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:37 PM

2. I'm happy he was ok.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:56 PM

8. Thank you!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:38 PM

3. Perhaps during his hospital stay he didn't watch fox and watched local tv or cnn

He then got deprogrammed rather quickly.

That said Iím glad he is doing better. I just got back from visiting my mother in law. She is 88 and lives alone and I see her getting more frailer. She uses a cane when she is out I public but At home she walks without it. I asked her about getting a life alert but she keeps putting it off.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:57 PM

10. I wonder? He did watch some Fox, but not a lot.

I hope your M-I-L stays safe. We definitely want a life alert button for him, among other things.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

23. Exactly what I was going to say

From personnel experience, laying in a hospital bed with few channel selections for a week or two (especially if the hospital didn't have Fox as one of its channels) can deprogram a person.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:05 PM

36. My Mom is 82, and is now using a Life Alert. She's incredibly independent, and this

gives us lots of peace of mind should anything ever occur.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:38 PM

4. He sounds like a good man, to come around like that.

People can always be redeemed in things like this.

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Response to coti (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:58 PM

11. Thank you!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:39 PM

6. Strong Island, Strong Man. nt

 

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:02 PM

15. He's a keeper.

First man who loved me, first man I ever loved.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:41 PM

7. Good to hear, phyl,

and best wishes to all.

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Response to elleng (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:59 PM

12. Thank you!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:57 PM

9. Everything in hell

Has frostbite....

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:59 PM

13. Wow.

Thatís gotta feel good.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:00 PM

14. I told my sister-in-law that it was so difficult not to be angry with my father

for voting for Trump. Now, I hope he lives long enough to vote him out of office.

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Response to phylny (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:02 PM

16. Oh yes.

That would be wonderful. Go dad...welcome back from the dark side.

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Response to phylny (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:06 PM

18. :) For sure. But in a real sense he already has.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:04 PM

17. Wishing you the best for your father. My mother fell mid Summer last year, and ..

unfortunately it was outside, so she was unable to get up and get back into the house. She did get found by the neighbor kids next day. A sad event, we think that perhaps she had a stroke that caused her to fall, we don't know what came first, the fall or the stroke.

The mental condition of your father sounds really good. Again, best wishes for a full and speedy recovery of your father. Take care!

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

30. I'm so sorry about your mom.

Falling is such a traumatic event. My father has his mind, which is really amazing.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:06 PM

19. Congratulations. Better late than never!❤

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:14 PM

20. I hope you dad is on the mend

I'm very happy he changed his mind. 63 million more to go.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:26 PM

21. Great post. Very smart of you to get neighbors numbers so you can call them to check on your dad. n

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:56 PM

32. Yes, neighbors across the street have known him for 40 years.

The entire story is incredible, but when he went back to check on my dad (he said he'd had a "hard time understanding him, and I wondered aloud if he had had a stroke, which he did not) I called my father's house, the neighbor answered and said, "He's on the floor, what should I do?" I answered, "Call 911 and do NOT listen to him when he tells you not to" which of course my father did

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Response to phylny (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:58 PM

34. Your dad sounds like a tough guy. nt

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:28 PM

22. I'm so glad you dad survived the floor for 12 hours

and will be cared for in rehab.

Changing his party affiliation is an exciting bonus for all!

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Response to Loryn (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:57 PM

33. Thank you!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

24. That's very encouraging.

Both that he is recovering from his fall and being freed from Trumpism. I'm sure that was a very scary ordeal for him and glad to hear he's recovering okay.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:38 PM

25. Hugs from this old Queens girl

I bet you remember old Long Island like I do. Farm stands and old "highways".

But to the important thing, I'm glad that your dad is recovering from his ordeal. Hugz to him, too, from afar (Colorado). I bet you have some good conversations in the days ahead. It's wonderful that you still have him.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:40 PM

26. I so hope that he is ok and gets well soon.

Glad he has realized how crazy DJT is but hope he is better soon.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:44 PM

27. I'm glad your dad is okay.

And that now after all this time you have something in common!

Hugs to you both.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:48 PM

28. No way I continue liking let alone loving 1/2 my family if Trump wins again. In laws are mindless Rs

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:53 PM

29. My 90 year old

life long Republican father told me recently he canít stand Trump. He never cared for Bush 2 either. Wasnít exactly surprised, but was happy to hear him say it. My Mom has never liked him thankfully. She so wanted to see a woman become President. Not sure that will happen in her lifetime.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:55 PM

31. Hope he recovers quickly!

Both for you and for his new conversion.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

35. Thank you all for the kind wishes, and everyone who did not have a Valentine's

heart on this thread does now

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:06 PM

37. So glad you got him back!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:07 PM

38. I am glad your dad is in rehab. How horrible for him--and you, his family.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:17 PM

39. Wishing your father a full and speedy recovery in every way!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

40. I wish we could all have this outcome

with out tRump loving friends and relatives.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:37 PM

41. Trump will point to that frozen hell and say. . .

This is proof that Global Warming is a hoax!

Kidding aside, I am very happy for you that your father was found and is receiving care. The clearing of his mind from the Fox Fog is a joyous thing indeed.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:50 PM

42. I'm thinking . . .

that every time Trump opens his mouth to abuse someone, and every time he fires someone, he is whittling away at his rusted on base.

Some of them, surely, must be going 'Nah, that is one bridge too far, I'm not following this idiot any more!'

Trump only knows greed, bullying, name calling, revenge and hate, personality features inappropriate for a POTUS and seen as negative traits by most Americans.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:58 PM

43. I'd love to see an ad campaign that features voters who have crossed over from the orange side.

Kudos to your dad! May he heal quickly.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:01 PM

44. I hope he recovers from the fall. At that age they can be bad.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:01 PM

45. A defoxification drug in the hospital?



Glad he finally came to his senses and hope he recovers.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 11:02 PM

46. Congrats,

phylny!

So proud of my 92 yr. old MIL, who has been a strong Democrat all her life! Union strong!!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 09:11 AM

47. These redemption stories aren't aired, but they're happening.

Unless there's blood, jail, or sexual organs involved, nothing gets airtime.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 12:32 PM

48. I try telling people that there are a lot of those folks out there; I know some.

But they WONT vote for a Sanders type. They may just stay home, which is still a partial win. Still COULD vote again for trump, who knows. Two that i know SAID they'd cast a vote for Bloomberg. But ANY loss of trumps original group is GOOD. Because i dont see him GAINING many new ones

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:19 PM

49. What caused him to change his mind?

I'd love to know if there was any one factor that opened his eyes

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:41 PM

50. Perhaps his brush with mortality

caused a crises of conscience. I hope he is well. My dad is 88 but he's a stalwart dem and has been since '70

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:53 PM

51. I'm so happy and relieved your Dad is OK

Not to make light of things but maybe he got some sense knocked into him?

Cherish the time you have with him every day and let him know he has a whole DU family that is proud of him.

My Dad is also 92 and will be 93 before Election Day. He is in assisted living and really isnít mobile but one of us kids will make sure he votes.

Peace ✌️ ☮️

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:59 PM

52. Maybe he can convince some of his rehab buddies

and other friends once he gets up moving again.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:16 PM

53. Yay!

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:31 PM

54. My two Republican bosses read headline "Acquittal". Both scoffed and said ridiculous.

 

I didn't know which way they were going, assumed they didn't like Trump was impeached and tried to shut the conversation down. My surprise? They think he is guilty and should have been removed.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:51 PM

55. my 94 yr old great-aunt fell on easter + luckily we were early. spent hours in her bathroom w/ a

broken hip. other than no moving after surgery she lived til 98.9. so hope he recovers.

and remind him a vote for not D is a vote for the moron.

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