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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:54 PM Feb 2020

A350 Pilots Banned From Drinking Coffee in Cockpits

In a new safety precaution, the EU Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has banned A350 airliner pilots from drinking coffee in the cockpits to reduce the risk of spilling liquids on sensitive cockpit electronics.

The ban marks the EASA finally putting its foot down, after previous requests to Airbus pilots to keep their coffees and other liquids away from airplane control panels. Two incidents have occurred where liquids were spilled and led to engines shutting down mid-flight "after inconsistent output" from control panels.

The first incident involved the American airline Delta. The second incident is believed to have involved the South Korean carrier Asiana, where tea was spilled on the console and forced the pilots to divert the flight. Another incident occurred in a flight over the Atlantic last year, where an A330 captain found out that hot coffee can melt an aircraft’s radios after he spilled his own beverage.

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A350 Pilots Banned From Drinking Coffee in Cockpits (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 OP
Sippy cups FTW Blues Heron Feb 2020 #1
My very first thought as well. nt crickets Feb 2020 #6
Cocktails through a straw are OK. Sneederbunk Feb 2020 #2
Wasn't a pesky coffee cup was the culprit in the film, Fate Is the Hunter? Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #3
I remember the movie (or rather the spill issue) but not the name. yonder Feb 2020 #12
That was one of the films that made it to television quickly in the mid sixties Brother Buzz Feb 2020 #15
Posted below Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #17
There is a caffeinated water, Water Joe they could try. dewsgirl Feb 2020 #4
Step softly Mopar151 Feb 2020 #5
If they aren't smart enough to keep liquids out of the reach of electronics, demigoddess Feb 2020 #7
Statistics are tough to beat jberryhill Feb 2020 #9
Fate Is The Hunter Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #8
I thought I was the only one old enough to remember that movie! mainer Feb 2020 #11
You would think Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #14
It was on TCM a while ago Green Line Feb 2020 #22
Ain't fly by wire great?!?!?? sdfernando Feb 2020 #10
if they can take bathroom breaks they can take coffee breaks elsewhere demigoddess Feb 2020 #18
For $300+ million they couldn't design the control panels so that a splash of liquid Flaleftist Feb 2020 #13
They are busy working on that pesky... ret5hd Feb 2020 #16
I'm rather a fan of the show on the Smithsonian Channel, "Air Disasters." NNadir Feb 2020 #19
"Smithsonian Channel, "Air Disasters." yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2020 #20
I wrote "Chapter" instead of "Channel." I'm losing it this evening. I'll go back and fix it. NNadir Feb 2020 #21

yonder

(9,664 posts)
12. I remember the movie (or rather the spill issue) but not the name.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:17 PM
Feb 2020

I've probably not seen it in 50 years.

Brother Buzz

(36,423 posts)
15. That was one of the films that made it to television quickly in the mid sixties
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:35 PM
Feb 2020

I last saw it, like, thirty years ago on television.... late, late at night. The coffee spill was my total walk-away.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
7. If they aren't smart enough to keep liquids out of the reach of electronics,
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:28 PM
Feb 2020

they probably should not be flying passenger planes.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. Statistics are tough to beat
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:36 PM
Feb 2020

There are a hundred thousand flights per day. Something with a one in a million chance of happening, happens every ten days.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
11. I thought I was the only one old enough to remember that movie!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:09 PM
Feb 2020

You'd think, with Hollywood films already addressing spilled liquids in cockpits in the 60s, that this problem would be fixed.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
10. Ain't fly by wire great?!?!??
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:59 PM
Feb 2020

But seriously, there are ways to mitigate this.

And a drowsy pilot has slower reaction time. 6 of one or 1/2 dozen of the other..sort of.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
18. if they can take bathroom breaks they can take coffee breaks elsewhere
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 07:51 PM
Feb 2020

I have often been on flights where the pilot was seen leaving the cockpit to eat or visit the passengers, etc. That is why you have a co-pilot. Now if two people are needed at all times to fly a plane, perhaps they need two copilots.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
13. For $300+ million they couldn't design the control panels so that a splash of liquid
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:20 PM
Feb 2020

wouldn't shut down engines?

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
16. They are busy working on that pesky...
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:40 PM
Feb 2020

“if someone turns on their cellphone the airplane crashes” problem.

NNadir

(33,516 posts)
19. I'm rather a fan of the show on the Smithsonian Channel, "Air Disasters."
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:11 PM
Feb 2020

I first started watching it with my son as he was going off to college to study Materials Science Engineering, since many crashes involve just that, materials science.

But yes, sometimes is something relatively trivial, like spilled coffee that causes a crash.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
20. "Smithsonian Channel, "Air Disasters."
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:21 PM
Feb 2020

I've watched a few of those programs, I remember one the flight engineer mistaking liters for gallons and running out of fuel, all kinds of crazy stuff?

NNadir

(33,516 posts)
21. I wrote "Chapter" instead of "Channel." I'm losing it this evening. I'll go back and fix it.
Sun Feb 9, 2020, 09:36 PM
Feb 2020

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