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Takket

(21,568 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:55 PM Feb 2020

What is the legal recourse for an AG who won't investigate crimes?

so with leaks coming out that Barr has not only shut down investigations into drumpf but has also prevented new ones from starting up...... what exactly can we do?

If someone is murdered and the police say they won't look into it.......... what can we do?

Is there any legal recourse? Is there any legal standard that the AG has to meet to "shut down" an investigation? are there any laws saying something along the line of "if there is ample evidence to warrant an investigation and the AG refuses to do it, that is a crime?"

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What is the legal recourse for an AG who won't investigate crimes? (Original Post) Takket Feb 2020 OP
Impeachment actually... Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #1
After he's out of office, the next AG could investigate him. Zolorp Feb 2020 #2
Protest in front of the DOJ buildings... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2020 #3
Mandamus elleng Feb 2020 #4
here we go!!!!!!!!! Takket Feb 2020 #5
Not an easy remedy at all, but it does exist. elleng Feb 2020 #6
why would they stop their investigations? stillcool Feb 2020 #11
The FBI is part of and under the jurisdiction of the DOJ (barr) PSPS Feb 2020 #20
Yes...but that has nothing to do.. stillcool Feb 2020 #23
The best route for the House Democrats is to continue investigations. LTG Feb 2020 #19
Since Barr already heads the DOJ, who could/would issue a mandamus? crickets Feb 2020 #8
The district courts shall have original jurisdiction. elleng Feb 2020 #12
Hmmm crickets Feb 2020 #13
Its very confusing, and difficult. elleng Feb 2020 #14
Ah. Well it's likely a doomed effort, but honestly SOMEONE should be able crickets Feb 2020 #16
I believe it is correct that Mandamus can only be used to compel the performance of a Atticus Feb 2020 #18
Yes, but like Trump's "perfect phone call," pattern and context Hortensis Feb 2020 #22
I agree. I think they are all beyond worrying about statutes. They're above those. nt Atticus Feb 2020 #24
going nowhere stopdiggin Feb 2020 #7
That's the unfortunate truth. OnDoutside Feb 2020 #9
The House should seriously consider impeachment of Mr Barr. kentuck Feb 2020 #10
+1000000 crickets Feb 2020 #17
No effect because: ignore subpoenas, refuse to provide documents, moscow mitch PSPS Feb 2020 #21
seek to have him disbarred RT Atlanta Feb 2020 #15
 

Zolorp

(1,115 posts)
2. After he's out of office, the next AG could investigate him.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 03:57 PM
Feb 2020

This sounds like a criminal conspiracy to cover up other crimes.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
4. Mandamus
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:05 PM
Feb 2020

28 U.S. Code § 1361.Action to compel an officer of the United States to perform his duty

The district courts shall have original jurisdiction of any action in the nature of mandamus to compel an officer or employee of the United States or any agency thereof to perform a duty owed to the plaintiff.

(Added Pub. L. 87–748, § 1(a), Oct. 5, 1962, 76 Stat. 744.)

A mandamus is normally issued when an officer or an authority by compulsion of statute is required to perform a duty and that duty, despite demand in writing, has not been performed. In no other case will a writ of mandamus issue unless it be to quash an illegal order.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandamus

Takket

(21,568 posts)
5. here we go!!!!!!!!!
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:08 PM
Feb 2020

Now how do we get the House Dems to issue one of these??? We need to demand they continue the investigations barr has crushed

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. why would they stop their investigations?
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:48 PM
Feb 2020

Aren't the investigation that have been squashed in the FBI?

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
23. Yes...but that has nothing to do..
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 07:12 PM
Feb 2020

With all the different committee investigations being done by Congress.

LTG

(216 posts)
19. The best route for the House Democrats is to continue investigations.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:44 PM
Feb 2020

Not sure a mandamus action would work for Congress. The specifies a party to whom the duty is owed. Congress is generally not a part of that group. It would be. A duty owed the “people”, not another branch of government.

Much like how other suits have been dismissed for lack of an injured party. Haven’t read the opinion but am assuming lack of standing was at least part of the appellate court’s rationale dismissing the Congreesional suit for violations of the emoluments clause.

For emoluments it would probably be best brought by businesses impacted by loss of business income due to the President’s ownership of a competitor.

Not sure who would have standing in the case of Barr. It does, however fall directly within the powers of congressional oversight.

elleng

(130,905 posts)
14. Its very confusing, and difficult.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:13 PM
Feb 2020

WHICH District Court would depend on where initiated, and where the action sought SHOULD be taken.

Jurisdiction issues are among the most important and difficult issues courts are faced with.

crickets

(25,980 posts)
16. Ah. Well it's likely a doomed effort, but honestly SOMEONE should be able
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:25 PM
Feb 2020

to yank his leash. Barr's position is not supposed to encompass all of the power he's claiming.

Thanks again for the info help!

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
18. I believe it is correct that Mandamus can only be used to compel the performance of a
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 05:40 PM
Feb 2020

"nondiscretionary" duty. If the officer's judgment is involved---i.e., is this investigation warranted?---a writ of Mandamus probably would not issue. The court would not reach the issue of whether the decision not to investigate was a wise one. Poorly used discretion is still discretion.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Yes, but like Trump's "perfect phone call," pattern and context
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:18 PM
Feb 2020

can establish that acts claimed to be performed within the scope of authority were in fact parts of a criminal action. I'm guessing that almost all illicit acts performed by Barr were in furtherance of larger illicit goals, and it would be strange, given his massive betrayals of duty, if at least some weren't clear violations of criminal statutes.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
7. going nowhere
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:32 PM
Feb 2020

Barr, as top law enforcement official in the country, has enormous latitude. That's just the sad fact. It would be somewhat helpful for congress (read House) to continue to investigate (to the extent of their abilities) in order to shine a light on questionable actions and practice, thereby acting as something of a check. But that's about it. Again, sadly.

(and we shouldn't forget that Barr is far, FAR smarter than the president .. and Giuliani, Manafort, Cohen, et al .. and the likelihood of him fumbling and tripping all over himself is considerably less.)

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
10. The House should seriously consider impeachment of Mr Barr.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 04:47 PM
Feb 2020

There are still questions about why he tried to bury the whistleblower report, after it was reported as "urgent" by the Intelligence Community Inspector General.

He has obstructed justice, at the very least.

PSPS

(13,598 posts)
21. No effect because: ignore subpoenas, refuse to provide documents, moscow mitch
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 06:08 PM
Feb 2020

Our system is horribly broken.

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