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(45,558 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 03:56 PM Sep 2012

Actions speak louder than words...

Especially when they come from a president giving a prime time speech and some relatively obscure cleric speaking at the end when hardly anyone was listening.

I do get why the Gay community is upset that this guy was let anywhere near the podium in our convention, especially here in 2012. If was gay I would be a lot more pissed about it than I am as an atheist who has to endure what I consider superstitious poppy cock.

But please, before anyone gets really pissed off, look at the actions and the rhetoric of the man in charge.

President Obama has been open in his support for Gay Rights. It was in his speech right there. When was the last time a presidential candidate from a major party openly proclaimed he support issues so near and dear to the Gay community.

Obama addressed the LGBT community directly three separate times during his speech, which ran 40 minutes — 10 minutes less than former President Bill Clinton's speech the previous night.

"If you give up on the idea that your voice can make a difference, then other voices will fill the void," Obama warned, including the voices of "Washington politicians who want to decide who you can marry."

Obama also chided Republicans for using gay people as scapegoats.

Speaking to Republican critics who believe government is always the problem, Obama said government isn't the source of all our problems "any more than are welfare recipients, or corporations, or unions, or immigrants, or gays, or any other group we’re told to blame for our troubles."

Ticking off a list of accomplishments, the president highlighted his repeal of "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell" as well.


On old man railing at the tail end of a convention that was quickly winding down has little to no relevance.

Of course it was political having this guy at the convention. President Obama has to constantly remind people that he believes in God. It's part of the game. But again, actions speak louder than tired rhetoric.

I didn't want him there probably as much as any gay person. Because of this continued embracing of some God who cares one wit what we do is so out dated that it is almost comical to me. The further we look out into the universe and find no evidence of God and yet people still find comfort with holding on to that belief confounds me.

But there it is. God is still with people.

To my many friends in the LGBT, please don't give up on President Obama.

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Actions speak louder than words... (Original Post) WCGreen Sep 2012 OP
I was offended as a woman. xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #1
It was just a huge mistake as far as I can see.... WCGreen Sep 2012 #2


(14,887 posts)
1. I was offended as a woman.
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sep 2012

that one selection was an insult not only to LGBT community but to women as well. In light of all the recent Roman Catholic bishops' pronouncements, threats and bombast directed at reproductive choice, this was not a good choice. I grabbed the remote and poof! he was gone!


(45,558 posts)
2. It was just a huge mistake as far as I can see....
Fri Sep 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Sep 2012

Clicking the remote is the best way to deal with this man's petty bullshit.

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